Is it ok to wear a sweater and tie instead of a suit coat and tie to interview?

[iceman]

I wore wranglers and boots to my last interview.

I still wear them to work on a daily basis.

Kinda dressy for shoveling shit.

[I Am Mr. Ed]

I've spent $1K on a suit and some nice shoes at the Men's Wearhouse and I don't think I got much more than the $150 suit if it fits well. It's not all about SWAG. It's just showing them that you will dress up if you need to, you respect the fact that they are taking the time to interview you, and they will surely understand that if you need to you will get some other suit. Nice suits and shitty suits don't bare much difference to the employer. He probably can't tell the difference anyway.

If you dropped a grand at Men's Wearhouse, you're a fucking moron....

I GUARANTEE IT!!

[Pegleg]

jackets w/o ties = douche.

Depends on local custom, I guess. Where I live, jacket w/o tie (or suit w/o tie) is what most of the movers and shakers in the community (successful entrepreneurs and investors, politicians, big donors, etc.) seem to wear to more formal events. I like it, personally; I hate ties, they just seem needlessly formal and no one actually likes wearing them - it's all out of allegiance to a 1950s business dress code.

And agreed that tie w/o jacket = waiter. Definite no-no.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Compromise:

Texas/Canadian Tuxedo-


This look only costs about $1500 at Men's Wearhouse.

[Hugh Conway]

Depends on local custom, I guess. Where I live, jacket w/o tie (or suit w/o tie) is what most of the movers and shakers in the community (successful entrepreneurs and investors, politicians, big donors, etc.) seem to wear to more formal events. I like it, personally; I hate ties, they just seem needlessly formal and no one actually likes wearing them - it's all out of allegiance to a 1950s business dress code.

No, you've described the douche scene to a T. Even down to the envy of "movers and shakers". I dunno, maybe it's because actual movers and shakers wear whatever the fuck they want ime (which can vary from a suit to jeans), it's the hangers on who have to conform. Anyways there's a huge difference between suit w/o tie (uber douche) and jacket w/o a tie (possibly not douche). Jackets are a needlessly formal relics of some retarded era as well, it's all just social pandering to stupid standards no different than skittle children comparing tip rise or hookers comparing pleather.

[MMP]

No, you've described the douche scene to a T. Even down to the envy of "movers and shakers". I dunno, maybe it's because actual movers and shakers wear whatever the fuck they want ime (which can vary from a suit to jeans), it's the hangers on who have to conform. Anyways there's a huge difference between suit w/o tie (uber douche) and jacket w/o a tie (possibly not douche). Jackets are a needlessly formal relics of some retarded era as well, it's all just social pandering to stupid standards no different than skittle children comparing tip rise or hookers comparing pleather.

yes and no. my wife's brother(s) have lots of dough and show up places where everyone is wearing a tie except them. They look spoiled and entitled and it comes across as disrespectful to some.You are correct that they could not give a shit what I, or anyone else thinks. That said, i wear a jacket and tie where I think it shows respect, or a knowledge of what is proper for the situation (job interview, funeral...) I also wear shorts to dinner in decent restaurants in the summer because i hate wearing pants and figure if i can pay the bill I wear what I want. I have been called out on it by someone that is more rigid about these things., He's right i suppose, and maybe thinks I'm a dick.

You can't fight every battle, and you may be able to justify thinking "fuck this person that has the ability to employ me, I don't need to wear a tie to my interview", but you also may not get the job because the other applicant knew what was proper and dressed accordingly.


I am Mr Ed: i laughed.

[Hugh Conway]

You can't fight every battle, and you may be able to justify thinking "fuck this person that has the ability to employ me, I don't need to wear a tie to my interview", but you also may not get the job because the other applicant knew what was proper and dressed accordingly.

I wear a suit and tie to interviews. Just my opinion that a suit w/o a tie is douchey becaust it's half assed, unless it's a leisure suit or something. sure, if you are going for the yacht club/masters look, a blazer.

[RootSkier]

If you dropped a grand at Men's Wearhouse, you're a fucking moron....

I GUARANTEE IT!!

Thank you for bringing some rationality to this thread.


{tag}Hugh trustfunds in jeans.{/tag}

[schuss]

Yeah, Suit and Tie for sure, especially since I imagine it's in the Nashghanistan/Manchvegas corridor, where you get lots of defense contractors and more buttoned-down folk.
Suits make you look good as a man, and don't buy a fucking kohls suit. Worse comes to worse, pop over to Kittery and get an outlet brooks bros., should only run you $300 or so.

[Obstruction]

Ditto on getting dressed up for an interview in that neck of the woods.

For a Sr. Network Engineer I would go with a nice sport coat or blazer, dress slacks polished shoes and a shirt and tie. Suit would be OK but might send a "I don't plan on getting my hands dirty" vibe.

Oh knot that fucking tie up until you are on the way home or in the bar. The tie at half mast thing that is so popular these days (ala zuckerberg) is seriously obnoxious.

[chatton18]

For the record, comparing the douchiness of clothing appropriateness = douche

that being said I'll add two to the top of the list

jacket with undone bowtie = uber douche
Jacket with sweater and tie = super douche

[Hugh Conway]

For the record, comparing the douchiness of clothing appropriateness = douche

that being said I'll add two to the top of the list

jacket with undone bowtie = uber douche
Jacket with sweater and tie = super douche

You don't even understand what the word douche means, do you douche?

jacket w/sweater & tie = old man who doesn't give a fuck. they are rarely douches - at least in the manifestation of douche known as "TGR", but then TGR is now mostly finance and legal turds who compare ties, watches and other signs of artisanal manliness to belong to the grand club of shitbagge2ry

[Binky]

Blue pants and brown shoes

And for the love of Christ, don't forget to shave your legs

[chatton18]

You don't even understand what the word douche means, do you douche?

jacket w/sweater & tie = old man who doesn't give a fuck. they are rarely douches - at least in the manifestation of douche known as "TGR", but then TGR is now mostly finance and legal turds who compare ties, watches and other signs of artisanal manliness to belong to the grand club of shitbagge2ry

Glad you can steal lines like "artisanal manliness" from gawker when describing the population here. Way to be original Hugh.

[PNWbrit]

don't forget to shave your legs

Take it to sprocket rockets JONG!

[Hugh Conway]

Glad you can steal lines like "artisanal manliness" from gawker when describing the population here. Way to be original Hugh.

I'm sorry - you broke new ground with the rosso corso tie paired with the 1.74mm pinstripe on your suit, paired with that vintage watch and the handmade loafers than Valerina slaved for 6 straight months on to craft out of the finest whale scrotum, I should be more respectful

[Ted Striker]

If you dropped a grand at Men's Wearhouse, you're a fucking moron....

I GUARANTEE IT!!

post of the thread right there.

Jackets are a needlessly formal relics of some retarded era as well, it's all just social pandering to stupid standards no different than skittle children comparing tip rise or hookers comparing pleather.

True.

That said, you wear a suit for all interviews where 1. it's the type of job where you don't get your hands dirty, and 2. you don't know the interviewer personally.

[DasBlunt]

Hugh C with the shitbaggery comment to take this thread over the top.

[PowTron]

This whole discussion makes me glad I moved away from New England to a place farther West with a more relaxed dress code

For the IT industry, especially engineering, I would recommend the sweater and tie look if you feel more comfortable in that. This industry tends to reward the more "modern" look based on the field in which you are applying for.

I would much prefer to hire someone who I felt would fit in with the rest of my team (late 20's to early 40's) in all aspects and not waltz in every day in a suit when it is not necessary for Network Engineering. This is IT, not the Banking industry.

My two cents.

[DasBlunt]

Hugh C with the shitbaggery comment to take this thread over the top.

[neck beard]

No, you've described the douche scene to a T. Even down to the envy of "movers and shakers".

I scratched my head as well.

[MMP]

I would much prefer to hire someone who I felt would fit in with the rest of my team (late 20's to early 40's) in all aspects and not waltz in every day in a suit when it is not necessary for Network Engineering. This is IT, not the Banking industry.

except you aren't on the team until you get the job. dressing properly lets your potential employer that you know the difference between what is professional and what is not professional. Putting on a tie, no matter what the position shows your prospective employer that you cared enough to take time to dress to impress. Chances are your competition will take the lazy way out, and you may make a better first impression, and all things being equal, that could be the difference.

[Timberridge]

I would much prefer to hire someone from Bangalore who I felt would fit in with the rest of my team (late 20's to early 40's who wouldn't mind working during all the US holidays) in all aspects and not waltz in every day in a suit when it is not necessary for Network Engineering. This is IT, not the Banking industry.

My two cents.

FIFY....

[RootSkier]

I would much prefer to hire someone who I felt would fit in with the rest of my team (late 20's to early 40's)

EEOC violations in 3...2...1....

[Hugh Conway]

EEOC violations in 3...2...1....

It's "team dynamics" not discrimination root. now go back to keeping daskunt out of jail