Shiffrin

[TBS]

Wake up babe, new Shriffrin conspiracy theory just dropped ~

My ski instructor claims that Mikaela has mastered the lost art of skiing at water's triple point of 0.01°C and 611.66 Pa.

He says you can tell because the new microphones on the World Cup courses are picking it up.

We practiced some "Shriffin turns", and they were heaven. I am tempted to believe.

This theory fails basic arithmetic

Let’s review
612Pa = 0.09pounds/sq inch (is the magic force 611.66 Pa or 611.73? Both are referenced)

Shiffrin weighs what, 140lb with clothes, helmet, body armor, skis and boots?

Which means she needs to spread that 140lbs over 1556 sq in to achieve this magic force of 611.73Pa

A woman’s FIS WC slalom ski is 156cm and what, 80mm wide on average?
So the footprint under a ski is 156*8/6.45sqcm per sqin = 193sq in
Or 386sq in for both skis.

So just standing immobile on flat ground with equal weight on both skis she generates a downward force on the snow of 140/386=0.36psi - IOW 4x the magic number

Weighting one ski more than the other in a turn will further increase the force
So will centrifugal forces of a turn.

Further, the friction of a ski on edge moving across the snow will cause a thin layer of snow to melt. Further messing up the theory…

This reminds me of the handbook that explains the phenomenon of the Oregon Vortex - it requires use of a constant equal to the square root of the time it takes sunlight to reach earth

[MakersTeleMark]

You don't have to prove that the person is an idiot. It's Sunday, take a break.

[powdork]

This theory fails basic arithmetic

Let’s review
612Pa = 0.09pounds/sq inch (is the magic force 611.66 Pa or 611.73? Both are referenced)

Shiffrin weighs what, 140lb with clothes, helmet, body armor, skis and boots?

Which means she needs to spread that 140lbs over 1556 sq in to achieve this magic force of 611.73Pa

A woman’s FIS WC slalom ski is 156cm and what, 80mm wide on average?
So the footprint under a ski is 156*8/6.45sqcm per sqin = 193sq in
Or 386sq in for both skis.

So just standing immobile on flat ground with equal weight on both skis she generates a downward force on the snow of 140/386=0.36psi - IOW 4x the magic number

Weighting one ski more than the other in a turn will further increase the force
So will centrifugal forces of a turn.

Further, the friction of a ski on edge moving across the snow will cause a thin layer of snow to melt. Further messing up the theory…

This reminds me of the handbook that explains the phenomenon of the Oregon Vortex - it requires use of a constant equal to the square root of the time it takes sunlight to reach earth

I don't see anywhere you took account of how red her skis are...

[Hood26]

I don't see anywhere you took account of how red her skis are...

They are very red and nuclear in name, so is that an exponential factor? I have forgotten most of my math.

[From_the_NEK]

This just in... Shriffrin caught using illegal waxes! Unfortunately, I can't find today's article to link here.

[telefreewasatch]

Good one.

[The AD]

Wax on, whacks off.

[skinipenem]

This theory fails basic arithmetic

Let’s review
612Pa = 0.09pounds/sq inch (is the magic force 611.66 Pa or 611.73? Both are referenced)

Shiffrin weighs what, 140lb with clothes, helmet, body armor, skis and boots?

Which means she needs to spread that 140lbs over 1556 sq in to achieve this magic force of 611.73Pa

A woman’s FIS WC slalom ski is 156cm and what, 80mm wide on average?
So the footprint under a ski is 156*8/6.45sqcm per sqin = 193sq in
Or 386sq in for both skis.

So just standing immobile on flat ground with equal weight on both skis she generates a downward force on the snow of 140/386=0.36psi - IOW 4x the magic number

Weighting one ski more than the other in a turn will further increase the force
So will centrifugal forces of a turn.

Further, the friction of a ski on edge moving across the snow will cause a thin layer of snow to melt. Further messing up the theory…

This reminds me of the handbook that explains the phenomenon of the Oregon Vortex - it requires use of a constant equal to the square root of the time it takes sunlight to reach earth

She is extremely light on her feet.

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[waxoff]

Wax on, whacks off.

Are you talking to me?!! 😎🤣🤣🤣

[Gepeto]

Like everyone else - she's such a pleasure to watch. It's going to be fun to see her when she walks away and has time for the joy of snow in its more sublime forms.

So little/no energy wasted from the ski

[TBS]

I don't see anywhere you took account of how red her skis are...

You are correct sir. I have it on good authority (two friends that ski Redster S9s) that the Redster topsheet pigment excites water molecules near the ski, causing them to move away from the edge, thereby decreasing friction and increasing speed.

This may be why her skis sound different.

[From_the_NEK]

Engaged

[TBS]

Damn - thought I still had a shot with her…

[schindlerpiste]

I just read that Shiffrin is preggers. Can anyone confirm or shed light on this? After all, I read it in an Italian media outlet on the gram

[MakersTeleMark]

I actually can't picture her having sex. But, strange things happen.

[powdrhound]

I actually can't picture her having sex. But, strange things happen.

Yeah, that’s pretty strange.

[k2skier112]

I actually can't picture her having sex. But, strange things happen.

You need a better imagination

[PB]

Even Goddesses have/enjoy sex; probably a lot more than us mere mortals.
Warning: combustion may occur.

[Shredhead]

I actually can't picture her having.

I pretty much picture it every night.
Most mornings and some afternoons.

[allmountainsnowskating]

Okay, so back to the Shriffrin no-friction conspiracy .

I've finished the book on the skiing triple point that Mikaela might have learned about at her private ski high school.

It explains that it's esoteric, mysterious, and spiritual to ski at the triple point, but could very well be possible.

People have been trying to understand what is happening at the molecular level to the thin layer of water under an ice skate, but no ever has ever really figured it out.

Decades later in 2024, still no one has accepted a theorum, but it's continuously studied. Kind of like Bigfoot.

The author offers a potential explanation why it could be possible:

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[allmountainsnowskating]

Water's triple point is 4.5 millimeters mercury (mm Hg) pressure and 0.0075°C. This is like having almost a perfect vacuum at barely above freezing point.

So! There is some mysterious, hotly debated amongst ice skaters, molecular process converging on a vacuum under the ski's metal edge.

The professor goes on...

First, Bernoulli's Principle is that if the speed of the moving fluid increases, the pressure decreases.

Second, water has a unique property that under increasing pressure, the vaporization point rises, but the freezing point decreases slightly. If ice is compressed, it will melt, and that's unique to H2O.

Third, the non water molocules under the narrow area of a ski edge materially polymerize the lattice structure of ice crystals into chains of molecules, transforming the snow into water, into a liquid state. This phase change prism can be very thin and narrow, and it's right about at the perfect triple point temperature, just barely above freezing.

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[allmountainsnowskating]

So you've got water under your edge experiencing a complex molecular force on a small molecular prism, so the Bernoulli's Principle could drive the pressure of the liquid water to a vaccum.


It's at the right temperature at a ski area, so maybe it's possible.

The author concludes by kind of accepting that it's a mystery and skiing is a spiritual thing, so he can't really say for sure. But he could feel it enough in his heart to write a book about it.


He's not even getting into how atmospheric pressure that could be at play because higher altitude decreases pressure.

There could be so many other factors, and no one really knows for sure.

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[allmountainsnowskating]

As for me...

Weeeeelllll....

My ski instructor was kind of offbeat but very experienced. I wanted to learn more about the physics fundamentals, and our first lesson was triple point Shiffrin turns.

Our second lesson was relativity theory and existing in every reference frames throughout my run by being aware of them all.

So Im feeling pretty down with all that shit.

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[allmountainsnowskating]

Those Shriffrin turns felt so good

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[Vt-Freeheel]

Oh boy