Coyote Problem

[PNWbrit]

Wait....What??? A cat charging out to defend it's little human GTFO.

CGI?

Gottabe....

[irul&ublo]

Thought for sure someone would have picked this up and ram with it.

That joke has been bleat to death

[Mazderati]

Wether that's true is open for debate.

[AKPogue]

Love how the cat ducks back under the vehicle. It may be crazy but it isn't stupid.

If you find the rest of the video it was still chasing the dog, the cat went underneath the car to keep going after it.

[sb]

Benji XL in. 25 with nitro pump is da ticket. Trigger pulled.

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[Buster Highmen]

What you need:

2^256 ways of awsum.

[PNWbrit]

I hate cats, but I'd probably put up with that one.

And that dog needs a small piece of lead inserted behind it's ear.

[Buster Highmen]

Back in the river days, we'd gotten a stray which was mostly feral. It didn't like people and had a bunch of weird habits but it could fight off coyotes and was tough as hell. It would not allow itself to be picked up. But it would follow me around probably because I fed it and didn't always fawn over the thing.

One day I was fishing in some wellington style boots, shin deep in the water. I felt a tap on my calf and looked down to see that cat up to it's transom in 40F riverwater tapping me on the leg with it's paw as if to let me know it was concerned.

[philth]

Awesome^^^^

[sb]

Kats are fkna kewl.

[plugboots]

Killing coyotes doesn't work.

[~mikey b]

Was just wandering through and sitting at a spot near my house we call the Moon Rocks. It's an open area of granite and manzanita we sit and watch the moon and the stars and meteors. A half dozen yowling barking screaming coyotes rolled through at a trot. I was given a cursory sniff by one or two of the more curious kids, but they were on their way somewheres else and didn't think I was worth worrying about.

[neufox47]

Killing coyotes doesn't work.

I'd keep shooting them. Especially the large packs. Farmer near by my childhood house supposedly used to tie a lamb out in a shed and let it cry for bait.

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[iceman]

Killing coyotes doesn't work.

Actually it does work. It won't significantly reduce the total population it it's just a local effort of course, but coyotes, much like crows (interesting article on crows learning about danger here.) are adapted to live on the edge of, and infiltrated though, human society. And they know that, like Clint said, "Dying ain't much of a living."

They learn the danger areas, and they pass that knowledge on to each other and to subsequent generations. Keep killing coyotes and crows and you'll see a lot less of them over time. There will be just as many of course but they will simply avoid you, as makes sense from a survival standpoint. If they're overpopulated locally and you have a ready food source they will risk death to eat as you might expect, but if things are fairly well-balanced locally they'll just eat soemwhere else.

[plugboots]

Maybe.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/op...otes.html?_r=0

[Bunion 2020]

^^^

Killing an animal that for five million years has had an important role to play in nature is an act of adolescence. As long as urbanites keep their dogs and cats inside at night, coyotes pose no unique or overwhelming danger, certainly no more than other wild predators. So why do we continue to mark them as targets for our blood sports?

Because shooting at paper targets isn't as satisfying as something that is alive?

There is a large pack near my house (Just outside Bozeman). I hear them sometimes early in the a.m. raising hell. For whatever reasons they haven't eaten my cat (Outside cat that is pretty savvy) so I figure, live and let live.

Magpies otoh.....

[hawkgt]

population ebbs and flows around here on front range, bunny population up high this year, waiting for the sweep of coyotes this fall/winter. usually down for a couple years until bunnies or prairie doggers get back to procreating. run in from the lake area and snatch and grab, scene it 2x from inside house looking out and freaked out each time as was in dark and I had no idea they were there, just coyotes running down the street in a flash.

woke one up once riding the bike through section of park with heavy weeds, we both shit ourselves on that.

[BCMtnHound]

Population cycles are responsible for most of the problem with problem coyote-human interactions. When the yote population peaks and their preferred wild prey crashes, they become more brazen and aggressive. They are far smarter than most domestic canines, and if pressured will attempt to take prey that is much larger.
Fun factor is that urban prey (Fido and Sylvester) do not have normal cycles, we tend to replace our pets as they meet their end. The other kink in the models is the cross-breeding with domestic canines; the crosses retain different behaviour traits and tend to be larger than their wild half-siblings. No easy solutions, and there will always be hick-ups that cause the hornet's nest to stir, usually resulting in an over-reaction on our part.

Of course non of this applies to agriculture and livestock husbandry - that's a whole other conversation.

[summit]

Maybe.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/op...otes.html?_r=0

Spending taxpayer dollars in bounty or in direct payment... that should stop.

But hunt to your hearts content.

That author can take his "they are cute and playful" appeal to emotion and shove it up his posterior.

[TAFKALVS]

That author can take his "they are cute and playful" appeal to emotion and shove it up his posterior.

Yup. If you have seen what a pack of coyotes will do to a family dog, baby deer or calf they aren't so cute. We have had coyote packs actively try to lure our dogs into the woods at the edge of our field. They will send a pup out in the field that makes "let's play" noises all the while the pack waits in the woods, ready to kill. It's happened multiple times now.

I do enjoy seeing them at a distance, much as I enjoy seeing the deer, bear, etc that come through our field but if they get close to the house I kill them.

[BCMtnHound]

Spending taxpayer dollars in bounty or in direct payment... that should stop.

But hunt to your hearts content.

That author can take his "they are cute and playful" appeal to emotion and shove it up his posterior.

Agreed. Culls of wolf or coyote are an (ineffective) short term solution that rarely if ever address the root problem. Not only is it poor science with respect to wildlife management, but is also bad politics. The wolf culling in the name of mtn caribou in this province will, in my unqualified opinion, be almost wholly ineffective in preserving herd viability.

As for hunting or trapping canines, they are probably the most difficult prey of all the large(ish) game. Even poison, which is not an accepted method of harvest around here, becomes ineffective after the first few die and the others figure it out.

[assman]

In Truckee, hardly rural, outdoor cats have a nickname...dinner

There are no stray cats in Chinatown

[::: :::]

Yup. If you have seen what a pack of coyotes will do to a family dog, baby deer or calf they aren't so cute. We have had coyote packs actively try to lure our dogs into the woods at the edge of our field. They will send a pup out in the field that makes "let's play" noises all the while the pack waits in the woods, ready to kill. It's happened multiple times now.

I do enjoy seeing them at a distance, much as I enjoy seeing the deer, bear, etc that come through our field but if they get close to the house I kill them.

our dog will go tearing after them if we let him out to pee at night or early morning...thank god our local coyotes aren't that aggressive

tho the fuckers are smart

we have an invisible fence and they just retreat out into the street while fluffy bellows at them from the yard...they are pretty indifferent to his noise and arrogantly just wait for us to take him back inside

[Shredhead]

There are a ton of them around my place and they go absolutely ape shit when there is a train coming. It's bizarre.

[bodywhomper]

coyotes are one of the reasons that we neutered our lab/hound. they are known to use a female in heat to lure a young intact male into a packs good meal. even with our dog, they use our yard as a thoroughfare, walking up to 20 feet from the house (same path as the deer), they don't do this when the dog is outside. the coyotes used to lure the female petite next door german shepherd into the nearby meadow. the neighbor got pretty good at sprinting after his pup. that same neighbor's previous dog (husky) used to play with the pack and apparently was treated respectfully by the pack.