Tahoe Weather, Conditions, Stoke, and What's Up Thread...

[lepistoir]

feel free to pass some of that moisture on to Colorado!

you can have it as soon as we are done washing our cars with it. I recommend sending it through Canada to cool off first.

[MrSmith]

why do you think that

and why do you think that

and it's just Sierra, not Sierras

Maybe it's just me, but this looks like it could have been worse for the Tahoe basin, whatever is happening on the ground. Sorry if my trying to stay positive is bringing you down. And thanks for the grammar lesson, much appreciated.

Note, the storm is tracking to the south east.

[Steven S. Dallas]

Timestamp on your post says 11:59 AM.

it does? Might want to check your forum settings.

[Ottime]

^^^^not so much a grammar lesson, but proper use of proper names. It is not like you are Mr.Smiths. And the whole "Sierras" thing I a pet peeve of the dork.

WTF is that supposed to mean?

The first part refers to me quoting pictures too much. The second part refers to you calling people retarded. No biggy. It could also mean I'm a bit of an Internet d bag.

Happy to hear of dropping snow levels.

Edit. Dammit Dallas, sneaking and and poaching my spot. My ^^^ refers to two posts up.

[1000-oaks]

Splat, are there enough sandbags to keep water from entering all of the other units? Not sure how the interior walls in your complex are made, but if water gets into one unit it could run under/through the stud/sheetrock walls into all of the others. Hopefully the interior walls are also cinder block & cemented to the floor.

[MrSmith]

^^^^not so much a grammar lesson, but proper use of proper names. It is not like you are Mr.Smiths. And the whole "Sierras" thing I a pet peeve of the dork.

So "Sierra Nevada Mountains" is not a valid construction around here and "Sierras" is not a valid contraction of said construction? Seems a pretty pedantic point if even technically incorrect, which I don't really concede.

[TahoeBC]

Just turned to now out in the South lake county

[SchralphMacchio]

So "Sierra Nevada Mountains" is not a valid construction around here and "Sierras" is not a valid contraction of said construction? Seems a pretty pedantic point if even technically incorrect, which I don't really concede.

Sierra Nevada refers to the entire range as a singular entity. It's Spanish for "snowy range," or "snowy chain of mountains."

Multiple Sierras means multiple ranges. Sierra Nevada mountains is pretty redundant. Granted, we will call out sub-ranges within the system, such as the Crystal Range, Cathedral Range, Carson Range, etc. In that interpretation, multiple Sierras might be kind of somewhat a reasonable description, but really they are part of the same general complex.



But the real question is, if snowline stays well below 7800' today, will patrol be able to open up any decent terrain tomorrow? Looks like a good possibility of more rain and wet stuff on Tuesday.

[powdork]

Maybe it's just me, but this looks like it could have been worse for the Tahoe basin, whatever is happening on the ground. Sorry if my trying to stay positive is bringing you down. And thanks for the grammar lesson, much appreciated.

Note, the storm is tracking to the south east.

the reason it's all yellow in the valley and not in the mountains is just the way the radar reads it. i don't know why that is but the yellow and red never make it past the foothills despite the fact that the mountains are dragging more moisture from the atmosphere. the storms almost always move down the mountains from north to south like this, and it was how it was forecast. things aren't that bad at all in the basin and its turned to all snow at the lake. it's the rivers on the eastside that could be a problem in the next several hours although the snow levels dropped more quickly than forecast so that's great news if its in time.
and yeah, the Sierra Sierras thing is a pet peeve of mine. Sierra is the correct construct of Sierra Nevada Mountains

[Driver]

Complete carnage over echo summit right now. Beamers and minivans sans chains flipped off the road all over the place. Snow levels dropping to lake

[thudder]

RENO 911!

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and and, it was an honor and a pleasure to meet youse guys.

It was good meeting you too, parkmeister. Hopefully things hold up for Splat.

The pics out of Rose's facebook feed look pretty tasty. Anyone else heading up there tomorrow?

[lepistoir]

One hour of Tanuki:


Also, what happened right as it turned to snow, about 10:30...

[Hoss Worthington]

But the real question is, if snowline stays well below 7800' today, will patrol be able to open up any decent terrain tomorrow? Looks like a good possibility of more rain and wet stuff on Tuesday.

I'm pondering the same question. I was at Kirkwood yesterday and the weather just never cooperated enough for patrol to get on top of things. Considering a mulligan tomorrow.

[powfiend]

Things are looking pretty good at my house at bridge 10. Woke up a bunch last night to check on flooding and the river never even reached the banks thankfully! Fortunate that all the sensationalism from the news and even the local fire department was just hype...

[gimpy]

i think that question just went thru everyones head around here. here comes the BOOM!!!

[213]

the reason it's all yellow in the valley and not in the mountains is just the way the radar reads it.

The reason is that the mountains do a great job of blocking the beam and thus underestimating the precipitation rates (radar returns). The heavy precipitation over the Valley can occur at 2,3,4, etc thousand feet and the radar can see it, whereas in the mountains, the terrain blocks/scatters the beam and it only gets a fraction of the returns. If you back-calculated the returns for the mountains based on rain/snowfall rates, you would see yellows/reds very often.

Snow level 5500 and dropping to my patio as I write on tha south side of the Vine. In the last 4 days I've gotten 25% of the annual precip...

and yeah, the Sierra Sierras thing is a pet peeve of mine. Sierra is the correct construct of Sierra Nevada Mountains

Me too! Drives me crazy.

Thanks for helping folks understand the way language works.

[MrSmith]

FWIW, I completely understand the "Sierra/Sierras" argument and use them more or less interchangeably as I feel they are both valid due to various etymological arguments that I won't go into. I find "Sierra" more elegant and consequently borderline crusty, language lives my friends.

Regarding radar, though I've been a backcountry traveler in the Sierra for nearly a decade, doing my Avy 1 course last season got me way amped up on weather nerdiness. In my limited experience winter storms of this intensity and magnitude are pretty rare so I allow that my radar interpretation may be lacking and possibly wishful thinking. In the end though, I'm not trying to trivialize, rather the opposite.

[SchralphMacchio]

lurk, then post, then smoke. Order of operations round here.

[213]

FWIW, I completely understand the "Sierra/Sierras" argument and use them more or less interchangeably as I feel they are both valid due to various etymological arguments that I won't go into. I find "Sierra" more elegant and consequently borderline crusty, language lives my friends.

The only 'rules' about language come once the language is officially 'dead'. Until then, style is all we have, so feel free to use the incorrect style as long as you can handle the heckling!

Regarding radar, though I've been a backcountry traveler in the Sierra for nearly a decade, doing my Avy 1 course last season got me way amped up on weather nerdiness.

Excellent. Next, take Avy 2 and/or Mountain Weather at the Lake Tahoe Community College; you will be super stoked on the improved understanding and skills.

[MrSmith]

And, two beers into lunch, it occurs to me that if your argument for using "Sierra" rests on its interpretation from Spanish, i.e. your really just saying "the range", then it should not be capitalized and you're all doing it wrong. So there.

I guess pedantic arguments about language are a pet peeve of mine.

Lagunitas apologizes in advance.

[MrSmith]

And Lagunitas meant to type "you are".

[213]

Perhaps a degree from your local university will help your linguistic skillz

[213]

3300ft of high country glory yesterday. Went from blower-->concrete in 4hrs


Subtropical splendor

[MrSmith]

Perhaps a degree from your local university will help your linguistic skillz

I mean, if the first couple didn't help, go for another, right

[213]

Precisely!