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[PowTrees]

Only those East of the Mississippi have to bother with things as menial and sucky as bump runs

[Bottleman]

nice try, but let's see which one of us is still standing tall and proud at the bottom of Outer Limits after bashing the longest steepest bump run in the UNIVERSE

it wont be one of you blue square shredders from west of teh mighte mississip

What he said. I've skied some of the toughest runs in the West (including the Back Bowls at Vail) and I've got to say I'm not that impressed. My guess is that you've never skied Jaws of Death at Mount Snow...

As for the comments regarding trail ratings they are INDEED standardized by the National Ski Patrol using a complex algorithm that considers pitch, trail width, moguls per foot, general topography, average base depth and a number of additional variables I can't remember at the moment.

[gpcharles]

What he said. I've skied some of the toughest runs in the West (including the Back Bowls at Vail) and I've got to say I'm not that impressed. My guess is that you've never skied Jaws of Death at Mount Snow...

As for the comments regarding trail ratings they are INDEED standardized by the National Ski Patrol using a complex algorithm that considers pitch, trail width, moguls per foot, general topography, average base depth and a number of additional variables I can't remember at the moment.

need to factor in some relativity theory too... i mean... you can't forget that it's possible the electrons could take a quantum leap and rearrange themselves and make the trail steeper for moment.

[neckdeep]

nice try, but let's see which one of us is still standing tall and proud at the bottom of Outer Limits after bashing the longest steepest bump run in the UNIVERSE

it wont be one of you blue square shredders from west of teh mighte mississip

Hmmmmm, you are probably right. But then again, perpetually shitty conditions are also why so many great halfpipe riders come out of the east. An odd thing to brag on... We get so many deep powder days on wide open slopes that pounding down a trail of icy moguls is, how do I say this.......a complete waste of a day in the mountains and a great place to jack yourself up and miss out on the rest of the season. We don't get real moguls at the ghee untill about 2-3 weeks of no snow and sun rot so, yeah, I only see moguls as a sign that in-bounds conditions really suck ass. If semi-vertical ice skating is what makes you happy, more power to ya, you can have it. We got slack and back country galore so why would you want to pachinko ball down an icy egg crate when you could be hiking out a gate at 9 to 10k? Oh yeah, the whole eastern itty bitty titty resort thing....well, ya still got bumps, I guess.

[AlpineZone]

Hi neckdeep! I must beg to divaricate with you, we certainly know what "real mountains" are here in the northeast. Killington has a vertical drop of 3050 feet, your local hill "Grand Targhee" has a vertical drop of 2270 feet, so we can easily see which is the the "real mountain" , can't we? In addition to that, Grand Targhee has a well-deserved reputation for being flat and boring, unlike Killington which is far more steep and challenging and is many times the size in skiable acreage as well. The average Killington regular would put to shame a peer from Targhee, trust me. When you score your first powder day in any of the multitude of Killington glades like "Anarchy", "The Throne", "Chop Chop" or "Patsy", you will be grinning from ear to ear, I promise you! Also, the conditions are actually more dependable and consistent here due to the superior snowmaking, the terrain is truly fabulous, the partying is unmatched anywhere(can you say "hot New Jersey Italian babes?") and the setting is Norman Rockwell-esque! Pursuing the plethora of hot NYC/NJ and Boston "chicas" in their stretch pants can be even better than the great skiing, but I must warn you they are quite feisty and outspoken, unlike the laid-back and masculine western gals. To the rest of the maggots and everyone else reading, if you are weary of the juvenile dickwaving by gapers like neckdeep and are looking for a bonafide state-of-the-art snowriding forum, I would like to open wide our cyber-gate to you to so you can "start fresh" at our friendly forums. I can assure you that "newbies"'(jongs) are welcomed with open arms by our entire community(unlike here at TGR), and there is no "hazing period" or rudeness tolerated. We also have superior bandwidth and response times on our 502g superfibre network as well as a state-of-the-art virtual blade server farm with 5000 terabytes of virtual disk space for your photos, blogs etc. If you are weary of all the foolishness and yearn for some intellectually stimulating mountain sport discourse, then come join our fun-loving but responsible bunch of snowriding aficionados who know the benefits of what good moderation brings to an on-line community. I think most all of you will find that our seasoned moderators "keep the bar high" by maintaining a sense of order and decorum, while encouraging quality discussion about our favorite pastime. It may take a small amount of getting used to, as we do have reasonable standards as far as language and image posting that are strictly enforced. I will warn you however up front that registering an ALIAS is "VERBOTEN", and something we have zero-tolerance with. The registration is easy and painless, and the rules will be explained in detail during the process. If you are tired of the juvenile goings-on at TGR and Newschoolers, all I can say is: "Come join the fun"!

[From_the_NEK]

My legs are literally on fire whenever I ski that full 3050 feet of vert at Killington. Last time I did it my legs started cramping during the last 500 ft. Must have been linked to the extreme change in attitude.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

need to factor in some relativity theory too... i mean... you can't forget that it's possible the electrons could take a quantum leap and rearrange themselves and make the trail steeper for moment.

And snow snakes!

[Buster Highmen]

where's the ref? -10 yards for Alpine Zone's use of "dickwaving" which is a TGR Minion adverb.

[neckdeep]

Greg, as many times as I have ripped you a new asshole in these forums.....you must not have a good memory. We did this last year, shitbreath. Targhee has 3500 acres; 2000 lift, 1500 cat, plus a gate to thousands acres of wilderness area. Killington has less than 1000 acres and is choked with trees and brush. But since you are a paid schill for killy you keep up your desperate tune that killington is bigger than the ghee and that some crowded trenches hacked out of the forest and a shit pile of expensive snowblowers is really where its at. Since you can't even be remotely truthful, Greg, you are just laughable. Greg, if you ever stand at the top of Big Sky, The Village or anything that actually starts in an "alpine zone" with "real mountain" features like cliffs and chutes, I really expect you to shit your Bogners so hard that you collapse. Post up the proof, bitch. Show us Killy's bad ass terrain. Moguls? FUCK MOGULS. Any overcrowded slope that doesn't get fresh snow gets moguls.....big fucking deal!

[Clownshoe]

Greg from AZ knocks down another 3 pointer from half court.

He smiles at the boys on the bench as he casually trots back on defense

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Greg, as many times as I have ripped you a new asshole in these forums.....you must not have a good memory. We did this last year, shitbreath. Targhee has 3500 acres; 2000 lift, 1500 cat, plus a gate to thousands acres of wilderness area. Killington has less than 1000 acres and is choked with trees and brush. But since you a a paid schill for killy you keep up your desperate tune that killington is bigger than the ghee and that some crowded trenches hacked out of the forest and a shit pile of expensive snowblowers is really where its at. Greg, if you ever stand at the top of Big Sky or The Village, I really expect you to shit your Bogners so hard that you collapse.

Blah blah blah. Read it and weep:



Killington rules, Targhee drools!

[AdironRider]

Greg from AZ knocks down another 3 pointer from half court.

He smiles at the boys on the bench as he casually trots back on defense

Dont forget the Walker wiggle.

And whoever Blizzard of Wahs is, you have to have something better than bumping old trip reports and calling people losers.

[Powder Pussy]

Greg, as many times as I have ripped you a new asshole in these forums.....you must not have a good memory. We did this last year, shitbreath. Targhee has 3500 acres; 2000 lift, 1500 cat, plus a gate to thousands acres of wilderness area. Killington has less than 1000 acres and is choked with trees and brush. But since you are a paid schill for killy you keep up your desperate tune that killington is bigger than the ghee and that some crowded trenches hacked out of the forest and a shit pile of expensive snowblowers is really where its at. Since you can't even be remotely truthful, Greg, you are just laughable. Greg, if you ever stand at the top of Big Sky, The Village or anything that actually starts in an "alpine zone" with "real mountain" features like cliffs and chutes, I really expect you to shit your Bogners so hard that you collapse. Post up the proof, bitch. Show us Killy's bad ass terrain.

I've been out west (never skied), but I've seen and driven up some of the mountains. Having grown up in New England, and driven up Mt. Washington, I think New England has way steeper ski runs. I couldn't see it from the road, but I hear Mt. Tuckerman is so steep, they closed the lift.

My big complaint, is the ski areas out west close before I get up. None of them have night skiing, but I do know Aspen and Whistler have some awesome clubs! (Nothing like the Pickle Barrel or Wobbly Barn, but still pretty cool!)

[From_the_NEK]

Dont forget the Walker wiggle.

And whoever Blizzard of Wahs is, you have to have something better than bumping old trip reports and calling people losers.

In his/her defense AZ's boards have been pretty quiet lately. Not really a lot of material to troll with. But what trolling has been attempted has been pretty weak.
I want to know if any moderators PM'd him yet.

[neckdeep]

Blah blah blah. Read it and weep:



Killington rules, Targhee drools!

Yeah, we got some stuff that looks like that before the snow fills it in plus 10 times more than that. Looks like there's only two to three feet of base, at most. Is that the best you got cuz thin snow over rocks is prety much the early season norm out here; that pic could be 100 places at the Village....seriously,doubting easties, just go to BIG Sky.....they got runs studded with rockpiles like that go for over a thousand feet, rocks,rocks,rocks.... plus long near vertical chutes that only open in big snow years. There's stuff there and at The Village that just plain scares me...Tuckermann's is the only comparable thing, I've seen.

But this isn't really about east vs. west, if you are having fun in the east, more power to ya. This is about how much some of us hate AZ Greg and the lies he tells to sucker people into his site so he can make more money and promote the eastern resorts that kick back to him. Greg is obviously impervious to ridicule so all I can do is insult his patrons and turn Greg's lame as fuck social network marketing efforts into negative publicity until he goes away.

[powbmps]

Have you sampled the night skiing at Keystone? I would say it ranks slightly lower than Whaleback, but higher than Pat's Peak on the difficulty scale.

My big complaint, is the ski areas out west close before I get up. None of them have night skiing, but I do know Aspen and Whistler have some awesome clubs! (Nothing like the Pickle Barrel or Wobbly Barn, but still pretty cool!)

[From_the_NEK]

Tuckermann's

Never heard of this place. Is it in the northeast?

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[neckdeep]

Never heard of this place. Is it in the northeast?

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I think so. Easties are the only people that ever mention it. It sounds like a consolation prize for having to live in Boston, if you really like hiking and a chance to ski into a watery grave. I've seen pics with several hundred people there at once so it must be the ONLY thing like it wherever it is. Kind of looks like a big snow filled canyon. I couldn't tell you how many of those we have in the West. Lots. I got two behind my house that dwarf Tuckerman's; 3000-4000 feet from ridge to creek and six miles long. Skiers here are obsessed with peaks and bowls, ravines not so much.

[Danno]

This is about how much some of us hate AZ Greg and the lies he tells to sucker people into his site so he can make more money and promote the eastern resorts that kick back to him. Greg is obviously impervious to ridicule so all I can do is insult his patrons and turn Greg's lame as fuck social network marketing efforts into negative publicity until he goes away.

he is not telling lies. He is just offering a viable option for those who might be dissatisfied with the juvenile behavior here on TGR.

[Harry Tuttle]

I must warn you they are quite feisty and outspoken, unlike the laid-back and masculine western gals.

Now you've done it Greg. I must beg to divaricate with you.

[Bottleman]

Moguls? FUCK MOGULS. Any overcrowded slope that doesn't get fresh snow gets moguls.....big fucking deal!

Your obvious inability to ski moguls is nothing to be ashamed of. Some of the better EC skiers (not me, of course) might be willing to give you a lesson were you schedule a trip to Killington in January. It might get a bad rap from time to time but Killington goes have some SICK terrain and a few bump lessons would almost certainly help make you a more complete snowslider.

[DoWork]

Greg, as many times as I have ripped you a new asshole in these forums.....you must not have a good memory. We did this last year, shitbreath. Targhee has 3500 acres; 2000 lift, 1500 cat, plus a gate to thousands acres of wilderness area. Killington has less than 1000 acres and is choked with trees and brush. But since you are a paid schill for killy you keep up your desperate tune that killington is bigger than the ghee and that some crowded trenches hacked out of the forest and a shit pile of expensive snowblowers is really where its at. Since you can't even be remotely truthful, Greg, you are just laughable. Greg, if you ever stand at the top of Big Sky, The Village or anything that actually starts in an "alpine zone" with "real mountain" features like cliffs and chutes, I really expect you to shit your Bogners so hard that you collapse. Post up the proof, bitch. Show us Killy's bad ass terrain. Moguls? FUCK MOGULS. Any overcrowded slope that doesn't get fresh snow gets moguls.....big fucking deal!

Neckdeep skis on 165 brewskis. Pass it on!

[From_the_NEK]

I got two behind my house that dwarf Tuckerman's; 3000-4000 feet from ridge to creek and six miles long. Skiers here are obsessed with peaks and bowls, ravines not so much.

4000/6 miles =12.6% grade. Sounds pretty gnarly.

[Powder Pussy]

I know some moguls every guy on the east coast wants to "ski" (except maybe a few from Cape May).

[From_the_NEK]

I think so. Easties are the only people that ever mention it. It sounds like a consolation prize for having to live in Boston, if you really like hiking and a chance to ski into a watery grave. I've seen pics with several hundred people there at once so it must be the ONLY thing like it wherever it is. Kind of looks like a big snow filled canyon. I couldn't tell you how many of those we have in the West. Lots.

Ohhhhh..... You mean Tuckerman Ravine. Not Bowl like at all.