any one desperate to ski?

[Rossymcg]

http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=77566
if so get in touch with this dick

[Lamothe]

im read this some where before. Im pretty its some old dude , looking to score a few hot aussie girls so he can pillage their anus' at will on the weekends . Im sure its all in the fine print. question is , how far do you go for free skiing?

[Rasputin]

No, not some lonely old man looking for tail. I suppose it's more fun to make up details, but for those who can read:

We are a private family of 4 living in Switzerland, we have a private chalet that we only use on the weekends and swiss school holidays.

Typically we would arrive most weekends on a friday night, and leave Sunday evening. We would expect you to help with regular household chores, cooking, cleaning, occasional child minding (ages 6 and 9) , ski teaching, and other helpful activities ensuring a stress free weekend. In return you get a whole week to do what you like. (Ski).

Slopeside accomodations, and a season pass in trade for the above. I can understand it not being the gig for everyone, but I don't see how it makes the guy a dick.

[Meanfruit]

I'm pretty sure this offer has been debated about before, and the general feeling was that, yes, this guy is a dick. But if you don't mind being someone's bitch for 2 day's a week, I guess it would be alright

[Rasputin]

General feeling of people who met him, or of internet whiners who form opinions in the absence of actual experience? As for being someone's bitch, isn't that what all service type employment is?

I've seen this in previous seasons too, and read threads about it, but don't recall any complaints from someone who actually did it, just a lot of nose wrinkling by people who expect privilege without effort.

[mtngirl79]

I'm pretty sure this offer has been debated about before, and the general feeling was that, yes, this guy is a dick. But if you don't mind being someone's bitch for 2 day's a week, I guess it would be alright

I think if it was as good as it sounds he wouldn't have to advertise... two days of being someones "bitch" for 5 free days and a seasons pass at an awesome place would have many takers if there wasn't a catch...

[BCMtnHound]

My guesses on the duties:
Friday prep & night meal and look after the kids while the folks go party - say 7hrs
Saturday start at 5am for breaky and prepare lunch meal/snacks, then nanny service for kids. Return in time to make evening meal. Clean-up and Nanny service to 11pm. 18hrs
Repeat for Sunday. Clean up place and get ready for next weekend.
Add on holidays.

edit to add: tack on snow shovelling, chalet maintenance and such. I'd say at least another 10hrs/week min.

At least 50hrs/week of work, probably more, per person. Room and board and ski pass only? No cash allowance?

Pretty menial 'salary' compensation for said duties to me.

[Rasputin]

I think if it was as good as it sounds he wouldn't have to advertise... two days of being someones "bitch" for 5 free days and a seasons pass at an awesome place would have many takers if there wasn't a catch...

Why do you assume there aren't many takers? Is this based on any real information or just more paranoia? Seasonal service employment in the ski industry frequently attracts single season employees. There is a majority turnover in the lifties at most ski areas every season, because people go in thinking only of the skiing they will do, and not of the work they will do. I expect this is a similar dynamic, but I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I HAVEN'T WORKED THE JOB.

Calling someone a dick based on suspicion is just silly. If it was from someone who did it, one of the two previous seasons he's offered the position, I would be singing another tune, but so far all I've heard is bullshit from the ignorant.

[mtngirl79]

I didn't mean to call him a dick, its just that I have seen that ad before, more than once... and it does seem like a sweet gig, to me at least... I cook anyways, so cooking for a few extra wouldn't be a big deal... watching school aged kids isn't hard unless they are demons, it just sounds like it would be ridiculously easy to fill that spot, like post an ad for a few days, and have more applicants than you know what to do with..

He could be a great guy, and it could be an awesome job for all I know.

[Ski to Be]

If it is such a great deal than he wouldn't have to keep hiring each year.

[capulin overdrive]

The movie is called CHALET GIRL!

[Rasputin]

If it is such a great deal than he wouldn't have to keep hiring each year.

More tired bullshit speculation, but you seem to be reinforcing my point, that many have an expectation that it should be a great deal, or else the guy (a family of four really) is a dick, and that the deal is unfair. Such as BCMountainhound's estimates of 18 hour days, and 50 hour weeks, based on NOTHING but his imagination.

I don't know myself, but I'm open minded enough to suspend judgement in the absence of the witness of those who have been there.

[Ski to Be]

Legit question. Not speculation at all. Perhaps that is such an odd seasonal lifestyle that it is hard to swing on multiple years. But if it is a super deal than I highly doubt that he would put a want add in each season. Frankly I don't care either way.

[powdork]

perhaps he wasn't happy with the way the previous employees took care of his house. perhaps they passed the stage in their lives where they could do this, or became otherwise attached.
i would expect that if he advertises in the same place year after year, and he is a dick, someone with experience would call him out on it.

[The Duke of Hurl]

I read somewhere that this guy was the GSA.

[Rossymcg]

i heard the the kids aint really his, they belong to someone who took up this position some years ago and thought that fucking his wife was part of the deal as it would have had to have been a chore,

[Rasputin]

perhaps he wasn't happy with the way the previous employees took care of his house. perhaps they passed the stage in their lives where they could do this, or became otherwise attached.
i would expect that if he advertises in the same place year after year, and he is a dick, someone with experience would call him out on it.

Exactly, there are many reasons that would explain why the people from the two previous years (this is only the third years he's advertised for it) didn't return.

[BCMtnHound]

More tired bullshit speculation, but you seem to be reinforcing my point, that many have an expectation that it should be a great deal, or else the guy (a family of four really) is a dick, and that the deal is unfair. Such as BCMountainhound's estimates of 18 hour days, and 50 hour weeks, based on NOTHING but his imagination.

I don't know myself, but I'm open minded enough to suspend judgement in the absence of the witness of those who have been there.

You are right in that I am combining two sources of data, and that may not be fair to the poster of that ad. But the ad does state that compensation is room & board, and ski (pass?). And that there are 4 people to attend to of which 2 are dependants to some degree or other. Again, while it is totally speculative, I suspect the writer is keeping the description purposefully vague.

I am very familiar with the work required to keep an upscale backcountry lodge or chalet - the estimates of workload are NOT from imagination. Based on the limited info in that ad, I would considered it full-time job for a couple of people. Some might be willing to work for such little compensation, but even places that offer the same AND a small salary/monthly stipend have trouble keeping staff year over year. But if someone thinks this is an acceptable work contract for them - all the more power to em.