What phone now?

[booner]

I just can't wrap my head around people saying they miss IOS after switching to Android.

[riser4]

I just can't wrap my head around people saying they miss IOS after switching to Android.

IKR

Everytime my wife wants help navigating her iPhone I get to the point where I want to throw it against the wall. What's up with no back button??? Similar shit in MacOS. One button mouse??? WTF??? At least you can go buy a three button mouse with a computer. The phones however are fucked.

[huckbucket]

IKR

Everytime my wife wants help navigating her iPhone I get to the point where I want to throw it against the wall. What's up with no back button??? Similar shit in MacOS. One button mouse??? WTF??? At least you can go buy a three button mouse with a computer. The phones however are fucked.

Don't get me started about iTunes. I wanna throw that shit through the wall.

[Tahoe Bromide]

Looks like I'll be keeping my s4 as all new phones are incredibly large. Wtf. All screens are like 6 inches, way too effing big. Can anyone suggest a Verizon phone that is smaller and not too old? Thinking about moto-x, 2nd gen.
IPhone 5 has about the best size imho but I'm not going apple.

[bagtagley]

I have a brand new Verizon LG G4 I'm looking to sell. It was activated in-store, and I tried to get it working on Cricket with no luck. By "tried", I mean I put my sim in, sent/made a couple texts/calls, pulled the sim and put it back in the box where it has remained. Looking to get $300 for it.

[haydukelives]

I have a brand new Verizon LG G4 I'm looking to sell. It was activated in-store, and I tried to get it working on Cricket with no luck. By "tried", I mean I put my sim in, sent/made a couple texts/calls, pulled the sim and put it back in the box where it has remained. Looking to get $300 for it.

Verizon phones dont work on ATT/Cricket

[bagtagley]

Verizon phones dont work on ATT/Cricket

Some. Verizon iPhone works a treat. Think the Nexus 6 also does. Stupid Verizon.

[Dantheman]

Bought myself a MotoG3 for Christmas. Got it all set up and was loving it for half a day. Then I went to make a call and could not hear any ringing. Called my voicemail and got silence. Called the wife in the other room; her phone rang, she picked up and my phone showed the call as connected, but she could hear nothing I said and vice versa. No audio either direction no matter what I did, up to and including a full factory reset. I basically had a phone that you could do anything with except make phone calls.

Called Motorola and was told I had a defective device. They then had the audacity to try and charge me a $25 fee to replace the phone. One hour of overseas CS hell later and I had a new phone on its way to me free of charge. Got it today and the new one does exactly the same fucking thing!

I'm pretty much at a loss as to what I'm going to do now. Apparently this is not an uncommon issue with phones running stock Lollipop and it seems more likely than not that a third phone will do it too. Unless I've missed something there is nothing else out there equivalent to the G. The price point is amazing for the specs, and now that I've had a bloatware-less experience I can't go back. Send it back, then limp along with my old phone until Motorola starts shipping the Gs with Marshmallow and buy another one?

edit: This is on T-Mobile.

[Chugachjed]

Or root the thing and put a vanilla ROM on. If it is a software issue.

[riser4]

Wow. My 3rd gen G3 did not do that. Fingers crossed that it keeps working. If we had a functional Gubmint then they should shut that shit down. Defective products should not be allowed.

[stfu&gbtw]

Some. Verizon iPhone works a treat. Think the Nexus 6 also does. Stupid Verizon.

None. The radios are different, despite the phone being basically the same. Your V iPhone will not work on att.

[Dantheman]

Or root the thing and put a vanilla ROM on. If it is a software issue.

It definitely a software issue, the mic and speaker work fine. My hesitation is that if it didn't work I'd have a $230 paperweight since it would void the warranty.

[Chugachjed]

None. The radios are different, despite the phone being basically the same. Your V iPhone will not work on att.

Not true. The Verizon iPhone 6s at least works fine on att. The only difference is no support for band 30 which only helps att customers in specific urban areas.

[Chugachjed]

It definitely a software issue, the mic and speaker work fine. My hesitation is that if it didn't work I'd have a $230 paperweight since it would void the warranty.

Solution is to back up the OG rom just in case.

[iceman]

Where did you buy the original phone?

[stfu&gbtw]

Not true. The Verizon iPhone 6s at least works fine on att. The only difference is no support for band 30 which only helps att customers in specific urban areas.

That might be true for the 6s...There are a handful of phones released recently that support both gsm and cdma... I even own one (moto x)... duh. was thinking of the 99% of existing phones. Oops.

[Dantheman]

Solution is to back up the OG rom just in case.

Maybe, but I know squat about rooting and custom ROMs and I'd probably fuck it up somehow. I need to be 100% sure I can get my money back which means just returning the damn thing.

Where did you buy the original phone?

Direct through Motorola.

[bagtagley]

The way I understand it, all Verizon phones are unlocked, but are restricted by Verizon software. If you can unlock the bootloader, you're good save for any missing bands as Jed said. The exceptions are iPhones and the Nexus 6.

My Verizon 6S works fine on Cricket.

[RShea]

Direct through Motorola.

Since Lenovo purchased the Motorola cell division, they have pretty much in the USA gone to a direct sales model. There are no carrier reselling their complete line of phones right now, unless they have older inventory or some unique deal going on a model or 2 from what I have been told by Lenovo reps.

[RShea]

The way I understand it, all Verizon phones are unlocked, but are restricted by Verizon software. If you can unlock the bootloader, you're good save for any missing bands as Jed said. The exceptions are iPhones and the Nexus 6.

My Verizon 6S works fine on Cricket.

It depends on how old the phone is, and a few other things. For years Verizon had International model cell phones that would handle both CDMA network and GSM for over seas use. The GSM was locked out for any use in the USA on competitors networks like AT&T and T-Mobile. They would not allow the phones unless someone flashed or knew enough advanced technical knowledge to bypass this factory lock. Then along came the FCC and dealings with things like the new cellular bandwidth auctions. Apple and others started to sell unlocked phones as part of the new cellular negotiations from the factory. Other phones could only be unlocked by the carrier once you had fulfilled your cellular contract, since the phones used to be subsidized at the time of purchase.

All that being said, it also depends on the phone, if it has CDMA and GSM capabilities and what bandwidths it supports, and so there is no universal answer anymore.

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides...unlocking-faqs

[Dantheman]

Just requested Project Fi invites for the wife and I. Went through our bills for the last year and figure it would save about $30 per month on average. We'll both have to buy new Nexus 5Xs, but factoring in what I was going to pay for the G and the wife's iPhone 5s she can sell for $150 the monthly bill savings will cover that in under a year.

[huckbucket]

Just requested Project Fi invites for the wife and I. Went through our bills for the last year and figure it would save about $30 per month on average. We'll both have to buy new Nexus 5Xs, but factoring in what I was going to pay for the G and the wife's iPhone 5s she can sell for $150 the monthly bill savings will cover that in under a year.

Buddy of mine has been on it for a few months now and is hooked. If nothing else, these kinds of projects will help drive the cost of other providers down.

[RShea]

Just requested Project Fi invites for the wife and I. Went through our bills for the last year and figure it would save about $30 per month on average. We'll both have to buy new Nexus 5Xs, but factoring in what I was going to pay for the G and the wife's iPhone 5s she can sell for $150 the monthly bill savings will cover that in under a year.

There are 3 Nexus phones that will work on the Project Fi. Nexus 6 (has been on Amazon new for $299 pretty regularly and less when a great special is running like Black Friday sale depending on how which memory model you want) and the 5X and 6P which are there new releases as of this past fall. Also remember that the base Project Fi charges $10 per 1 GB of data has to be purchased if you can't combine public wifi usage. They do rebate the unused data back to you at the end of the month though. So if you pay for 2 GB of data but only use 1.4 GB then you get $6 back.

[doughboyshredder]

Project Fi almost seems to good to be true.

Pretty much seamless international usage.

Might have to give it a test run here in a few months. Being able to continue to use a U.S. number while out of the country is huge.

[shroom]

a few dev type google fanboi's I work with have tried it and bailed within weeks due to shitty service. INTL usage was a selling point for them as well.