Praxis WooTest review

[dschane]

I borrowed a friend's 2.0 pair for a day last season and loved them. Long turn radius and nice rocker, they rolled over and through just about everything. I do wish they came in the 180-183 cm range.

[Shorty_J]

I borrowed a friend's 2.0 pair for a day last season and loved them. Long turn radius and nice rocker, they rolled over and through just about everything. I do wish they came in the 180-183 cm range.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...d.php?t=281843

[SupreChicken]

Gah. Beat me to it. I was going to page shorty J...

[grinch]

3.0 is 183

[Shorty_J]

3.0 is 183

Where's the fun in that?

[grinch]

Where's the fun in that?

SJ pro model 3.0 is 183. Fify

[Shorty_J]

^^^ I meant the lack of cutting your skis into pieces.

[neck beard]

What do you speak of?

[Shorty_J]

Post #52?

[neck beard]

Post #52?

Well then, that is interesting.

[dschane]

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...d.php?t=281843

I mount and wax, but I have not shaved tail. Not sure I'm ready to go there.

[grinch]

^^we r still talking bout skis?

^^^ I meant the lack of cutting your skis into pieces.

same page....I think

[kidwoo]

I bought the 1.0. Mounted. Toured. Hated it in variable snow. Sold it. Though per kid woo, the 2.0 is a HUGE improvement...

eeeeyyup

I'm still skiing on the 2.0s as my primary BC ski, or will be if it ever fukkin snows here. No plans whatsoever to get rid of them. Couldn't say that about the 1.0s.


This whole cutting skis thing....that's just for walking right? I don't think I'd want less tail for jumping off things.

[kidwoo]

haa imagine that. also have a feeling I'm going to want to only ski on my ul gpo's. weird that my med stiff 182 gpo is same weight as med 187 ul wootest. thought the woo would be a touch lighter. I just like the protest so much. maybe stick w protest/gpo combo I have . wish I could try them

He's changed his core setups a little since these got made. A new wootest 2.0 would be lighter.

Although it looks like not enough people bought the 2.0s to even keep them on the site. I think everyone who was interested in this ski bought the 1.0 and then everyone forgot about it when it wasn't perfect.
I don't know......I still really dig them. Everyone I know who's been on the 2.0s does too. If you guys really want a 183, I've said it before........get your names consolidated on a list. It's like 10-12 to make a run of cores. It would be a damn shame for him to never make these again. They really are pretty damn good.

[Andeh]

Yeah they must have had some decent advances for their UL layup. I've been kicking around different options for a fat, touring powder ski. I was tempted by the pair of 180 2012 Powderboards for sale right now for $300, but talked to Keith and he said for touring the Protest is a much better option. Looks like you can get a pair of 177 UL/med+ Protests for 8.1 lbs... crazy light for a ski of that girth.

[kidwoo]

You still gotta walk around with all that snow on them and deal with icy sidehills on a 120+ wide ski........

I don't know man.......somebody should make a narrower protest.

[Shorty_J]

This whole cutting skis thing....that's just for walking right? I don't think I'd want less tail for jumping off things.

Yes.

But I don't see the 4cm off the very end of the tail changing how they land jumps... but I could be wrong. And since I never skied them before chopping, I'll never know.

[Skiwurrel]

I dunno I mean I've thought about cutting the tails on the protests before, for skins and kick turns as well as I'm mounted centre and sometimes I can land really backseat and get fucked up, and that wheelie effect when you're going fast

[Nordic Giant]

Well Kid et al, I just pre-ordered the Woo2 in Ultralite core with Tsunami topsheet. Protests also in one of the woodgrain topsheets.

Needed a 100-1`15 waist ski to replaceme my old JJ's, which always did feel really hooky in funky snow. These sound just perfect. Sure hope they work out . . .

I find it pretty remarkable that there's been two or three Praxis threads on the first page of Tech Talk all spring. Hoping that's a true representation of a quality product.
Here's a bump to my hopeful new favorite ski and ski maker.

[mall walker]

Just noticed these back on the "custom touring skis" section of the Praxis website... 187, 35m radius, 113 underfoot, 8.4 lbs UL @ med stiff. That seems like a pretty legit touring pow ski. Are the old reviews still accurate? Is this the "2.0" on the site now, or something new?

[dschane]

Still the 2.0. I'm pretty sure he makes them only in response to custom orders. The old reviews are accurate (that is, it's a great ski), though most are based on the MAP-carbon not the UL core. Probably not a huge difference though.

[neck beard]

Ski needs to be re-named after someone who actually skis.

[Nordic Giant]

Well have to say I'm loving the Woo2's so far. Couple days in wet mashed taters and three days in 10+ inches of superlite pow we've gotten since the weather got colder. Smeary-drifty-floaty when I want, carve when I want. Most any turn shape I want. Tour great.

187 ultralite core. tech bindings.

What I guess you could say was the only mildly disappointing thing was performance in windslab and breakable windcrust. Shits so common where I live; was hoping for some kind of revelatory experience. The Woo's handled that stuff about as well as could be expected realistically. Think the ultralite core perhaps just doesn't have enough mass to be a great funk destroyer.

Then again, I think I'm just a shitty breakable crust skier.

[harpo-the-skier]

Thanks for that info NG. A couple of questions:

a) How much did your WT's weigh with the UL core?

b) What similar skis can you compare the WT's to?

In my experience, my WT 2.0's from a couple of years ago survival ski shitty snow (breakable crust, cement, satsrugi) better than other skis of comparable dimensions I have (DPS w112, ON3P BG) but they don't really make it fun.

[Nordic Giant]

Harpo,

Forgot to weigh my Woo2's before mounting.
Praxis website lists my ski at 8.4#. Seems praxis skis often come in slightly under advertised weight tho?
They weigh 9.8# with bindings on my digital bathroom scale FWIW.

The only thing similar I've skied would be the Protest, which I've got all of one day on. (Just acquired this fall as well.)
I skied the Protests in the same conditions as the drier days I've had the Woo's out in. Honestly, I think I enjoyed the Protest more, they just seemed *unneccesary* for the given conditions. (8-12" of blower on a hard base) Plus they're just a lot of ski to break trail with.
Prior to this season (last seven years) I had been doing most of my touring on 187 JJ's and 18x Black Diamond Havoc. So those don't really compare at all. I liked the JJ's fine in smooth soft dry snow but found them too short/soft/grabby in the tips heavier snow especially on flatter terrain. Dumped the Havocs a few seasons back cuz I just didn't like em anymore, so the JJ's exclusively for the last 3-4 seasons.
Bought some Voile V6's last year to use as a skinnier option for less deep days or springtime and put in ~35? days. Actually like them quite a bit, but some of the same problems as the JJ due to short turn radius and grabby tips in weird snow.

I've skied lots of different crap before those skiis, inbounds and touring, but I'm mostly braindead and can't remember.

During my research that lead me to the Wootest I took a hard look at the Billygoats and the bigger version of the Steeple cuz I'm sure theyre great. Too heavy though for my use though. I'm not a weight weeny by any means, but aging legs and a touring-only ski season demand lightish options.

Don't get me wrong about the Woo's windfunk abilities, I think they ski fine. Just not the be-all end-all solution to that problem. A wicked heavy, true reverse/reverse fatty is probably the best option for that. But I'm not gonna haul that uphill.

Seems like a Woo2 in a extra heavy layup would actually be pretty sweet for that, or just ski area crud charging.