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**lph** · 11-13-2003, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by joshbu
Yeah, I know I'm going to blow the weight limits. I don't really care. I'll pay the extra to have my gear there. Didn't they just drop the limits recently?

last i checked it was 75lbs. but i have had check in people give me a hard time when i have stuffed more than 2 pairs into my bag even when it was under 75. they said for skis no more than 2 pair per person. in the end they let me go, but not without a fight.

i think if you tell them you are competing they won't charge you the extra money.

**splat** · 11-13-2003, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by joshbu
Yeah, I know I'm going to blow the weight limits. I don't really care. I'll pay the extra to have my gear there. Didn't they just drop the limits recently?

Yeah, down around 50lbs a bag, i think. That's one of the reasons I love my Sportster, it comes in almost right on the money every time, even with my boots in it. But there's been times, with no rollers on a 2 ski bag, a backpack, and the Sportster, that I have wished I had wheels. Like when I gotta lug it all across a long airport or parking garage. Swear I've shrunk a few inches a couple times doing the Quasimoto shuffle.
I'm all about wheels now.

**Dr. Crash** · 11-13-2003, 02:32 PM

Spat, there are many ways to show that your products are good, and one of them is to knock off everything else in sight. That is not the right way. If you're defensive every time someone compare your products to something else (and as a matter of fact I mentionned the difference in deniers as an explanation for the Rossi bag being cheaper) you're going to do PMGear a great disservice.

Your bag has some great pluses, theirs has some too, like for example the fact that they use real buckles and not velcro for the straps. Focus on your pluses, and if you've got the best gear your business will flourish. No need to attack everything else without substantiation.

Just my $0.02 (towards a PMGear bag, likely).

drC

**jibij** · 11-13-2003, 02:40 PM

ordered: one sportster

**lph** · 11-13-2003, 02:47 PM

Dr. C,

I can totally understand your point and actually I agree.

Splat is just so damned excited about this stuff. I don't know how well you know him (outside this board), but he is one of the most positive, upbeat people you would ever want to meet. That being said, when he finds something he likes and he gets excited, he can get a little carried away.

Originally posted by Dr. Crash
Spat, there are many ways to show that your products are good, and one of them is to knock off everything else in sight. That is not the right way. If you're defensive every time someone compare your products to something else (and as a matter of fact I mentionned the difference in deniers as an explanation for the Rossi bag being cheaper) you're going to do PMGear a great disservice.

Your bag has some great pluses, theirs has some too, like for example the fact that they use real buckles and not velcro for the straps. Focus on your pluses, and if you've got the best gear your business will flourish. No need to attack everything else without substantiation.

Just my $0.02 (towards a PMGear bag, likely).

drC

**Dr. Crash** · 11-13-2003, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by lph
Dr. C,

I can totally understand your point and actually I agree.

Splat is just so damned excited about this stuff. I don't know how well you know him (outside this board),

I've met him at the Hood on July 4 and liked him a lot. Which is why I care about him not letting his enthusiasm get in the way of being successful.

It's cool to see you guys getting into this venture and getting the positive vibe you're getting in the community. I wish you a great success.

drC

**splat** · 11-13-2003, 04:00 PM

I'll make no excuses for standing up for something I believe in, Dr(s). A less rigorously constructed product with a lower price point that won't pack a long pair of boards simply doesn't cut it for me.
That and the fact I hate buying any product that won't endure. But besides my emphaticism about product quality, Dr. Crash, I think you know my positive mental altitude also endures.

CS · 11-17-2003, 03:04 PM

Bump for the sweetness that is PMGear.

I just got my ski bag and that has to be the baddest, burliest, ski bag I've ever seen. Not to mention the thing is huge. No problems fitting 2 pairs of skis, prolly no problem fitting 3. Nice work guys.

**xboat** · 11-17-2003, 03:07 PM

splat - thanks for getting the gloves to me before you probably even got the ones i sent back to you. that's service!

**CaddyDaddy77** · 11-17-2003, 03:33 PM

Thanks again!
I brought my new gloves along for bootpacking in Silverton as an extra. A friend that wsa along with us was wearing spring gloves, and continually was resting his hands in the snow, and by mid-day they were wet, this wasn't too bad until the wind moved in, the temp dropped, and it started snowing.

I dug my gloves out and traded him for his wet pair, although they were too big, he was warm and dry for the rest of the day. You'll have another customer shortly.

**splat** · 11-17-2003, 05:40 PM

Love to hear the real time reporting, guys. We really would appreciate it if you guys and everyone else that got gloves could let us know over the season how they continue to perform for you.

We're also looking for suggestions on what you might do to improve them, if possible. We're all about developing gloves based on your needs and feedback for next year. Drop us a line anytime with your thoughts.

We'll have a bunch of other killer gear, ultimate top of the line products, we'll be putting up soon. I think ya'll will like what we're bringing to the playground.

Got any pics of that skibag in operation with 3 pair of boards in it, CS?

**Twoplanker** · 11-17-2003, 06:03 PM

Although I'm clearly biased, I'll add my recent test info too.

I did a full day of hiking and skiing in wet, deep snow. Since we did so much post-holing in the crotch deep snow that my gloves were in the snow a lot.

My hands were warm and dry throughout, which is unusual for me.

The gloves, although initially stiff, softened up and were very comfortable.

CS · 11-17-2003, 06:19 PM

Splat, no pics, no test for that matter. I just got the bag today and it was delivered to the office so the observation was mere speculation on my part. Tests will ensue tonight.

CS · 11-18-2003, 10:04 AM

Ok, I did some testing with the ski bag and was able to fit three skis without much of a problem and the swearing was kept to a minimum.

Seriously though, they all fit pretty well, though you might want to put a towel or something around one of the two pairs that aren't separated by the inside pad.

Slight disclaimer: although the skis were long, they weren't particularly fat, on being the old Morrison's the other two being in the 115-90 range. And one pair was a tele ski, albeit with Linkens so it was sorta similar to an alpine binding. That said, I don't think fatter boards will much a huge difference, unless they are Fat Bastard dimesions. Bottome line, with a little ingenuity (and I mean very little), three boards fit nice and snug. However, the whole package weighs a ton, so don't say you weren't warned.

Now, if February will only come soon so I can use this baby on my way to Ooootah........

**splat** · 11-18-2003, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by CS
Ok, I did some testing with the ski bag and was able to fit three skis without much of a problem and the swearing was kept to a minimum.

Seriously though, they all fit pretty well, though you might want to put a towel or something around one of the two pairs that aren't separated by the inside pad.

Slight disclaimer: although the skis were long, they weren't particularly fat, on being the old Morrison's the other two being in the 115-90 range. And one pair was a tele ski, albeit with Linkens so it was sorta similar to an alpine binding. That said, I don't think fatter boards will much a huge difference, unless they are Fat Bastard dimesions. Bottome line, with a little ingenuity (and I mean very little), three boards fit nice and snug. However, the whole package weighs a ton, so don't say you weren't warned.

Now, if February will only come soon so I can use this baby on my way to Ooootah........

Cool........ thanks, CS. Love to get such glowing reports. e me at the pmgear contact button. Got another question.

**Hayduke** · 11-18-2003, 11:34 AM

Have I fucked up here or you or no one? I've just ordered/paid for the ski bag and got charged $5 for shipping (to the UK). Is that right?

CS · 11-18-2003, 11:41 AM

Splat, check yo email.

**splat** · 11-18-2003, 11:42 AM

Nope, HayDuke, we're gonna cover you on the shipping, cause we freakin think everyone should have equal access.....

Cool, huh?

**Hayduke** · 11-18-2003, 11:47 AM

Nice........very nice. Thanks

**VTskibum** · 11-18-2003, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by splat
Nope, HayDuke, we're gonna cover you on the shipping, cause we freakin think everyone should have equal access.....

Cool, huh?

That's freakin awesome Splat and Co. Don't have cash for new baggage, but when I do, I know where I'll be calling.

**Karl Stall** · 11-18-2003, 02:02 PM

Splat - you ski 195's? Stud!

I will get the ski bag if I don't hit Alta this weekend.

**Buzzworthy** · 11-18-2003, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by lph
Dr. C,

I can totally understand your point and actually I agree.

Splat is just so damned excited about this stuff. I don't know how well you know him (outside this board), but he is one of the most positive, upbeat people you would ever want to meet. That being said, when he finds something he likes and he gets excited, he can get a little carried away.

A little carried away. C'mon lph, tell it how it really is.

Splat is plain crazy!!

FKNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**lph** · 11-18-2003, 05:40 PM

Splat is the man. Let there be no doubt.

He is the energy source of PMGEAR, he is the brains of PMGEAR, he is the Mailroom, Marketing Dept, Wharehouse guy of PMGEAR. He feeds off the energy on these chatboards. He loves you guys and girls to death, trust me on this one.

The products we carry are Pat's finds. He sticks by them to the point where he might point out the negatives of the competition. People might not like it, but it comes from a position of knowledge and pride in what he sells.

That is all.

**Twoplanker** · 11-18-2003, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by lph
Splat is the man. Let there be no doubt.

He is the energy source of PMGEAR, he is the brains of PMGEAR, he is the Mailroom, Marketing Dept, Wharehouse guy of PMGEAR. He feeds off the energy on these chatboards. He loves you guys and girls to death, trust me on this one.

The products we carry are Pat's finds. He sticks by them to the point where he might point out the negatives of the competition. People might not like it, but it comes from a position of knowledge and pride in what he sells.

That is all.

All I can say is, "Amen."

**jibij** · 11-19-2003, 04:57 PM

Sportster bag arrived today. just a few days after ordering. i can't imagine it being any more bomber. lots more room than i'd pictured. i snapped a couple shots to give you an idea of the bags capacity. there's a LOT more room left after putting in a shell, 2 sets of gloves, hats, helmet and goggles with the boots in the side pockets.

http://www.mediarite.com/powboard/sportster_top.jpg

http://www.mediarite.com/powboard/sportster_boot.jpg

this same bag would likely go for 2 or 3 times more in a retail store. thanks to the pmgear folks for walking the talk.