Alright admit it......who sucks at moguls. I'll admit it, I suck.

[JJChit]

Lesson finally booked.

[baron]

Best mogul improvement chances may be, at one of the few open slots, at a march str8line camp....ask for coach wheeler ,pro mogul annihilater

[bendtheski]

practice this and you will never have sore knees again.

But you may develop some terrific heel spurs.

Maybe I'm just missing it, but I can't see any benefit to mastering this technique, especially in bumps.
Just looks like a good way to strain your lower back, bury your tips, eat shit and look foolish.

[le dog]

i suck at skiing and I have been taking lessons for the past 3 seasons (and still suck-ish). the more i learn the proper technique the more i like moguls. i now even look for them while a couple of seasons ago i would have carefully avoided them. so i think i want to say that if you are a good skier you'll have no problem with moguls (but I am jong so I really know nothing).

[Tunco]

practice this and you will never have sore knees again.

Nor get laid.

[Captain Anal]

i suck at skiing and I have been taking lessons for the past 3 seasons (and still suck-ish). the more i learn the proper technique the more i like moguls. i now even look for them while a couple of seasons ago i would have carefully avoided them. so i think i want to say that if you are a good skier you'll have no problem with moguls (but I am jong so I really know nothing).

If you have a problem with moguls, you're not a good skier.

[BushwackerinPA]

But you may develop some terrific heel spurs.

Maybe I'm just missing it, but I can't see any benefit to mastering this technique, especially in bumps.
Just looks like a good way to strain your lower back, bury your tips, eat shit and look foolish.

its not straining anything I can do this all day long down any slope. it exactly the same movement that is done in bump skiing.

[BushwackerinPA]

But you may develop some terrific heel spurs.

Maybe I'm just missing it, but I can't see any benefit to mastering this technique, especially in bumps.
Just looks like a good way to strain your lower back, bury your tips, eat shit and look foolish.

BTW I would love to see video of you bump skiing.

[bendtheski]

its not straining anything I can do this all day long down any slope. it exactly the same movement that is done in bump skiing.

But why would you want to?

And quit shopping for a line. Pick a line and commit to it!

[bendtheski]

BTW I would love to see video of you bump skiing.

Here you go. Pay attention, you might learn something.

I I weren't rehabing a torn acl I'd challenge you to a duel.



Here's an older one. I'm in the dark green predator pants with white knee patches.
I wore predator, so you know I am a force to be reckoned with!

Now go post some mean, hateful comments about my videos on vimeo and youtube. I can take it!

[warthog]

The last guy in that video with the maroon jacket on knew what he was doing.

[BushwackerinPA]

Here you go. Pay attention, you might learn something.

I I weren't rehabing a torn acl I'd challenge you to a duel.



Here's an older one. I'm in the dark green predator pants with white knee patches.
I wore predator, so you know I am a force to be reckoned with!

Now go post some mean, hateful comments about my videos on vimeo and youtube. I can take it!

hey not going ot post mean hatefull comments(like you did to my first video) but I am going to say thing I can easily match the zipperlining, but can you round out your turn and ski with more dynamics than what your doing? can you go slow if you need to like REALLY slow.

You are doing alot of good things but you on forgiving bumps and admittly as am I. What I am doing is more sustainable for longer on rougher bumps, over more time, and shows a better understanding of fore and aft balance which is one of the last things that the best and most well rounded bumps skier start to get is the back pedaling motion of bump skiing.

[BushwackerinPA]

But why would you want to?

And quit shopping for a line. Pick a line and commit to it!

why all the hate.

why would you want to? to engage the whole ski every turn.

Dirt patches I had to change lanes to not ruin skis that were not mine.

[BmillsSkier]

The last guy in that video with the maroon jacket on knew what he was doing.

Got that right.

Man, is there anything more fun than a spring day with a nice bump field, some good friends, and some beers back at the parking lot?

[powder11]

Lesson finally booked.

Save your $ and forget all that zipper line, windshield wiper turn bullshit. Ski moguls like you would a moto-x whoopty do. Air in and out using the front and back of the mogul as your take off and landing. The key is to look ahead and be able to time it all so that it is one fluid motion. Once you get the hang of it, you can start clearing a few at a time and be able to straightline an entire mogul field no matter if the moguls are rock hard or slush. If you get it down right, nobody will be able to keep up with you in moguls.

PM MildBill for a personal mogul-x lesson.

[Irishexit]

Stab the tit and commit....you boys figure that one out and the rest of life will be cream cheese.

[bendtheski]

why all the hate.

why would you want to? to engage the whole ski every turn.

Dirt patches I had to change lanes to not ruin skis that were not mine.

No hate man. Bump skiing should only be about 50% actual skiing; the real competition is who can talk the most smack? I am a world cup shit talker!

It's good to see a healthy bump discussion on TGR! FWIW, I've dissected the video enough times to pick out every little flaw of myself and everyone else. The last guy in the maroon jacket (Kirk Sisson) is an excellent skier, and has had great success in competition, but even he will concede that it doesn't always come together every single run and that he's still got some room for improvement no matter what the video or his competition results may reveal. I ride the tails too much and break at the waist too often. I'm also guilty of letting my hands drop back too much. There is one clip of me at MJ that I'm ok with (2:13 in), but there's obvious flaws in just about everything else. FWIW, I have never been accused of skiing to fast. Just the opposite actually.

Good point about backpedaling. I think that's an essential component of good bump skiing, but very hard to teach. It's more of an acquired skill.

Here's another clip just for a goof. It's short, but I think demonstrates how solid bump technique can be adapted to different conditions, pitches with positive results, even in deep snow on 112mm waisted skis. Plus, since I'm not skiing this year it's a good reminder of what I have to look forward to if I'm diligent about the rehab. The title of the clip is admittedly obnoxious. I think I uploaded it right after watching G.N.A.R. for the first time.



Almost forgot; I ripped on your porpoising technique because that was one of my first bad habits that my killington friends picked up on when I started getting passes and house shares there in '93. I litterally do have heel spurs from and old pair of nordicas and from picking the tails up too much.

Most bumpers I know practice swing turns on flat snow early season, and really focus on snow contact. I'm over it. If there's no bumps or soft snow early season, I usually just put on something long and go fast. I never felt like practicing swing turns on flat snow was going to do anything but make me better at making swing turns on flat snow. BTW, I am AWESOME at making swing turns on flat snow! I know; who gives a shit? I know I don't.

I think if that's all the mountain has to offer early season next year, I'm going mountain biking.

[Piggity]

Man, is there anything more fun than a spring day with a nice bump field, some good friends, and some beers back at the parking lot?

6ft of choker pow, some good friends and some beers back at the parking lot?

[userA]

i crushed a few poorly placed moguls today, flattening those bumps like it was my job. i kinda feel like im grooming the area for the next storm.

[BmillsSkier]

6ft of choker pow, some good friends and some beers back at the parking lot?

DON'T YOU ARGUE SEMANTICS WITH ME!

[bendtheski]

hey not going ot post mean hatefull comments(like you did to my first video) but I am going to say thing I can easily match the zipperlining, but can you round out your turn and ski with more dynamics than what your doing? can you go slow if you need to like REALLY slow.

You are doing alot of good things but you on forgiving bumps and admittly as am I. What I am doing is more sustainable for longer on rougher bumps, over more time, and shows a better understanding of fore and aft balance which is one of the last things that the best and most well rounded bumps skier start to get is the back pedaling motion of bump skiing.

Don't know how I overlooked this the first time around, but this deserves a response.

but I am going to say thing I can easily match the zipperlining.

No you can't. Saying so doesn't make it so.

can you round out your turn and ski with more dynamics than what your doing?

Yes, but this is about mogul skiing.

can you go slow if you need to like REALLY slow.

Yes, but why would I want to?

You are doing alot of good things but you on forgiving bumps and admittly as am I.

Really? Because to me it looked like you were making hop turns on the flats and GSing through some low angle dirty bumps late season.

What I am doing is more sustainable for longer on rougher bumps, over more time, and shows a better understanding of fore and aft balance one of the last things that the best and most well rounded bumps skier start to get is the back pedaling motion of bump skiing

Really? Because the video you posted demonstrates none of that.

Just curious, is that a Stowe instructor jacket you're wearing in the first clip? Your comments and critiques might fly at some PSIA clinic, but frankly I'm not buying any of it and neither should anyone else.
It's ok though, as long as you're having fun.

For those of you looking to elevate your bump game, I suggest looking into a mogul camp with some coaches who've competed professionally. PSIA instruction is fine up to a point, but moguls have never been their strong suit.

[BushwackerinPA]

Don't know how I overlooked this the first time around, but this deserves a response.


No you can't. Saying so doesn't make it so.

Yes, but this is about mogul skiing.

Yes, but why would I want to?

Really? Because to me it looked like you were making hop turns on the flats and GSing through some low angle dirty bumps late season.

Really? Because the video you posted demonstrates none of that.

Just curious, is that a Stowe instructor jacket you're wearing in the first clip? Your comments and critiques might fly at some PSIA clinic, but frankly I'm not buying any of it and neither should anyone else.
It's ok though, as long as you're having fun.

For those of you looking to elevate your bump game, I suggest looking into a mogul camp with some coaches who've competed professionally. PSIA instruction is fine up to a point, but moguls have never been their strong suit.

if you can not tell those are not hop turns and something complete different Moverment Analyais is lost on you and you clearly do not know what a GS turn is either. Everytime at the end of you bumps runs you lose it and your linking maybe 10 turns and gaining speed the entire way, this does not fly on anything here.

Stop trying to de-legitimization one of the few legitmiete coaches on here. If the OP requested a private at this mountain he would most likely me. You on the other hand would never be able to get to where I am with you cocky ass attitude and tail swinging non finesse BS.

Your comments show a true lack of understanding of what is going is.

your not engage anything on the front half the ski, you have no turn shape, and there is a reason you blew out you ACL is because you bash bumps instead of flowing though them. I am not saying stop zipperlining I am just saying learn to do otherways before bashing others.

[BushwackerinPA]

Save your $ and forget all that zipper line, windshield wiper turn bullshit. Ski moguls like you would a moto-x whoopty do. Air in and out using the front and back of the mogul as your take off and landing. The key is to look ahead and be able to time it all so that it is one fluid motion. Once you get the hang of it, you can start clearing a few at a time and be able to straightline an entire mogul field no matter if the moguls are rock hard or slush. If you get it down right, nobody will be able to keep up with you in moguls.

PM MildBill for a personal mogul-x lesson.

quoted for truth

[shera]

I shouldn't be surprised this is degenerating into chest beating and dick waving, hate this about tgr, hate it.

Josh I would ski with you and take your advice on anything you've got to say about my skiing. Lot of other maggots would benefit as well.

So I got my park cred the other day and we were working on some nose butters. Just lifting our heels and pivoting off the front of our skis. Not something I mess around with in general. Anyway I took that little heel flicking motion into the bumps and was pretty amazed at how it got my tips engaged in the new turn. You get your tips in early and you can make any turn at any speed you like. I don't know if it's a cheat but it sure does work.

In other news, my hands are such shit. I have to continually remind (yell at) myself to keep them in my peripheral vision. When I do, my hips come forward all proper and my turns get round and not so shove and recover.

This bump skiing thing is like playing the drums or the piano left and right hands, different things to combine in rhythm. But the keyboard is constantly changing size and shape. Really a great fun challenge.

[sparkletarte.]

I think the best way to settle it would be if you two would suit up in some tight little metallic hot shorts and had a gogo dance off.