Still waiting for my 29.5 Vulcans. My Rocker2 115's are getting anxious!
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Bumping for some Mercury love... Just loving mine. Still trying to decide if with tongue in it's just a little too stiff or whether I need to get used to it. Maybe doing some tongue mods down the road I guess?
Anyone else notice what feels like the sole of bot under ball of foot seems to flex when walking on hard ground? It might be the Rubber lug under that part of boot flexing or maybe that I haven't put a real foot-bed in yet and with the stock one I'm feeling something of the attached boot board?
Scotsman (Vulcan) and I have discussed that they also might perhaps have some anti-dynafit ramp angle thing going on?
Very, very happy customer.
Grind that square piece off the internal tongue so its easier to get in and out.
I love it in pow without the tongue. In chopped up inbounds snow I like the tongue.
The Maestrale RS and Mercury are almost as stiff as each other. If anything I'd give the Scarpa the tiniest of percentiles over the Dynafit boot in fore-aft stiffness but both are awesome laterally.
The Mercury has a better walk mode (with an Intuition luxury). Will try with a Pro-tour liner also. The Scarpa is almost as good as the Mercury but you have to loosen all the buckles which makes for slower transitions.
The Maestrale, Maestrale RS, and now the Dynafit free-touring line (Mercury and Vulcan anyhow ---marketing barf buzz word) kind of make all other boots I've tried feel like gigantic piles of shit.
4 days on One PX and loving them. As stiff or maybe a tad stiffer fore-aft than the Zzeus. Laterally stiff as hell, like all Dynafit Ultralock cuff boots. Forward lean just right, i.e., same as my DIY-modded TLT5s and Zzeus (now dedicated lift-served boots). I really like the flex progression. No hard stops. Fit is quite different than the TLT5 and a bit different than the Zzeus. Ample forefoot width and volume. Great heel pocket -- sucks my heel down as well as the TLT5. Volume at the in-step buckle is pretty sensitive to buckle adjustment, but no problems. Tour/walk mode is near-TLT5. One PX definitely a keeper for mid-season tours; will save my TLT5s for spring tours and my waxless low angle touring rig (to be acquired).
You know what's amazing Steve? The Zzeus and Titans were so good when they came out. Then the TLT5 came out and it was stiff (yah I didn;t like the lack of progression but it was baller stiff); at least as stiff as the ZZeus and toured way better.
Now you got the Mercury and Vulcan and One quite simply kicking ass. Who the hell is going to buy the Titan and Titan UL? Unless they need the replaceable soles or it fits them better.
Dynafit (& Scarpa) are so far ahead of everyone else with these new lines. Edit - Fan boy hat on big time
Shell is great.
After a long day on the Duffy yesterday I've come to the decision the stock liners suck. Ordering Intuition Pro Tours ASAP.
EXACTLY great shell shitty liner AND because of that I say folks should just man up and buy the intuitions at the same time they buy the Mercury because it MAY influence your decision on shell size OR whether you buy the boot at all
6 days straight touring and at the hill on the mercury and I seem to have forgot about my alpine boots, except for the lack of AT sole this boot skis well enough for me to fill the one boot quiver
Something I didn't realize until my buddy pointed it out is the tongues are asymetric ...they are marked Left & Right
What intuition model are you guys using? Have been looking at luxuries or pro tour; the stock mercury liners are killin' me over the instep. Ready to bite the bullet...
Yeah, I would of bought them at the same time but I pro ordered my Mercury's will have to do the same for Intuition.
Oh well.
Has everyone basically just unscrewed the powerstrap from the boot and feed it through the tongue like I am doing? Seems to be the general consensus and what Hoji is doin'.
When I first tried the Vulcans on while carpet testing I was worried that they were too upright... when skiing in them with dynafits, the ramp angle inherent in the binding and the low heel create the right amount of forward lean( at least for me). Anybody using Vulcans/Mercurys with anything but dynafits( why would you buy a $1000 lightweight boots and put them into Barons or Dukes?????) will find them a bit upright IMO. Whether this was intended or otherwise, the boots forward lean( low heel) compensates for the ramp angle inherent in dynafit bindings.
Last edited by Scotsman50; 12-10-2012 at 10:50 PM.
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before I got the stokes/verts mounted I was using mercury's with FR+/JJ's which is heavy but less heavy than what I was using before and I still feel a big difference ... the last boot I skinned was 4 buckle alpine
I missed out on the power strap thing?
Just a little thing I guess.
I'm sure you'll find quickly that the power strap will rip out of its 2 little screws on the back, already happened to me.
Apparently Dynafit specifically made it so you feed the powerstrap through the tongue loop thing.
I'm guessing it's for when you are skinning and remove the tongue you remove the strap at the same time.
Anywho, just decided to lace up the stock liner and changed the forward lean to 18 degrees rather than 15. We'll see what the changes do.
Next up: Grind off the little rectangle block, thanks Lee for that suggestion.
yeah I ripped out 1 screw already but its easily fixed with a washer, I left one strap off to compare to keeping one strap, I am betting the boot doesn't need it
OK, I've joined the Mercury tribe last night. Haven't molded the liners (got the 27.5 version which is supposed to have a more formed liner in any case?). For my high arch, these things rock. I'm a bit concerned over the fiddliness nature of the thing, I might have to just ditch the tongues. I also have to really yank on the top buckle to shut it which worries me when it's cold etc....time will tell.
'waxman is correct, and so far with 40+ days of tasting them there is no way my tongue can tell the difference between wood, and plastic made to taste like wood...but i'm a weirdo and lick my gear...' -kidwoo
Black Diamond Factor 130 w/ SPK liners. I have them set up w/ the least amount of forward lean (14 degrees I think). I'm not going to be skiing as burly skis w/ them either (S3, Zag Purist, Movement Trust) so a bit softer shouldn't matter much at all.
'waxman is correct, and so far with 40+ days of tasting them there is no way my tongue can tell the difference between wood, and plastic made to taste like wood...but i'm a weirdo and lick my gear...' -kidwoo
Yup, and I think it's intentional. I've long figured that Dynafit built lots ramp angle into its bindings on the assumption that most AT boots have more upright cuffs and/or less internal ramp. (Rockered sole sometimes lessens boot ramp angle). When the TLT5 came out with its big forward lean it made no sense to me (and those others that modded the stock FL.) FWIW, I'll continue to shim my FT/Comfort/etc. toes to get the same RA as my Classic Speeds cuz I like the same RA across all my skis.
Good to hear. I'm looking to replace my 4-year old Spirit 4s this year or the next. Ideally, I'd like something that (a) fits well, of course; (b) is ~7 lbs or under; and (c) is a little stiffer/burlier than my Spirit 4's but not necessarily plug boot stiff. It'd also be nice if they are easy enough to get in and out of (the Spirit 4's are great in this regard).
I haven't paid much attention to developments in AT Boot technology in the past few years, but it sounds like the One PX and Maestrale RS fit the bill.
I hate lace up liners. Without laces found the tongue would move around too much and over/underlap the various cuffs when in walk mode. Plus a pain to get in and out of since the laces over instep just worked tighter and tighter.
Got some Bungee Stretch Laces which I've laced up just part way up the eyelets. Prevents the tongue flopping around like an over heated Golden Retriever's and easy to get boot off.
Tried my 26.5s with PW intuitions, clearly better than stock liners particularly over instep (stock way too thick there). But still huge in the forefoot, and this is compared to my Quadrant which is already on the roomy side. Can't believe you guys aren't swimming around like me.
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