Advice needed for mounting tele's

[72Twenty]

I only tele a couple times a season, but with warm temps and no new snow, I am going to force myself to tele all day Saturday and try and get better.

I am going to mount my tele bindings on to my old Line Dragons. My question is this:

Should I mount them to the balance point, existing boot mid-sole, or to the cord center?

The reason I ask is that since these are Line twin tips, the mid-sole line is way up there. Also, I have been skiing on them at this mount point for years and like how they ski(ed).

I am mounting Voile 3-pin cables and I have Supercomp boots, so this is not a hardcore up-to-date tele set up.

Cheers!

[weibo]

I have always mounted pins at balance point. I have put someone at this point on the Dragons and haven't heard any complaints.

[hop]

go as close to the alpine mount as you can.

Supercomps? Mooooooo!

[Yeti]

Go as close to alpine mount if you want to be able to parallel on them similar to when they were mounted alpine ... but with that boot/binding setup, I'd say to go with chord center. It is the standard telemark mounting point. Balance point is a standard primarily used for nordic touring skis, and IMO has little to do with telemarking as such.

Or, measure CC vs alpine mount, and split the difference.

[72Twenty]

Supercomps? Mooooooo!

Dey was FREE.

[Greydon Clark]

I skied the Dragons an inch forward of CC.

[HobieTony]

Hey, first post on this board. There is lot of info on the T-Tips site on this question, but almost all advise points to the Ball of Foot/Center of Running Surface method:

http://www.telemarktips.com/BindingMt2.html

It almost always puts you ahead of the pins at cc method. I have had great luck with both tele and alpine-for-tele skis, but feel free to do a search at t-tips for more opinions

[Meathelmet]

Hey, first post on this board. There is lot of info on the T-Tips site on this question, but almost all advise points to the Ball of Foot/Center of Running Surface method:

http://www.telemarktips.com/BindingMt2.html

It almost always puts you ahead of the pins at cc method. I have had great luck with both tele and alpine-for-tele skis, but feel free to do a search at t-tips for more opinions

Rear Boot Heel to Front Outside Edge Of Boot Shell Toe

Ah jesus crh...
I thought that i was good at understanding english...Didnt get even the half of that!

Ok, i got the "center of the running surface" witch is the "effective edge length" (is it??) and then you mark the half way of it? Right?

But what the hell is the Chord centre?

So,could you explain to an foreigner what all that is in engrish?

WHAT do you put too the that halfway mark? Pins? Ball of the foot? Chord (what is chord in this case?)

Set up that i have is a old 99-00 solly 1080 and the bindings are Riva 3s, if thats any help...

[HobieTony]

Rear Boot Heel to Front Outside Edge Of Boot Shell Toe

Ah jesus crh...
I thought that i was good at understanding english...Didnt get even the half of that!

Ok, i got the "center of the running surface" witch is the "effective edge length" (is it??) and then you mark the half way of it? Right?

Right, although running surface isn't exactly effective edge length, but close enough for this.

But what the hell is the Chord centre?

A 'chord' is a straight line drawn between two points on a curve. The chord on a ski is the straight line drawn from the tip to the tail. Half of this distance is the 'chord center'. This made more sense when skis had no turned up tails. Twintips, because of the extra tail length, skew this measurement to the tail of the ski (a bad thing). So, for finding chord center on twins, some people use the 'effective chord center', which is the tip to the rear contact point. Half of this distance would be the 'effective chord center'.

So,could you explain to an foreigner what all that is in engrish?

WHAT do you put too the that halfway mark? Pins? Ball of the foot? Chord (what is chord in this case?)

The ball of your foot goes on the center of the running surface. All those boot/foot measurements are to find how far your pinline is ahead of your ball of foot, since tele binding mounting templates are usually referenced to the pinline. So, if you know/find that your pins on your boots are, say, 3" in front of your ball of foot, you would mark a pinline on your skis that is that far ahead of the center of running surface. Traditional mounting puts the pins at the chord center of the skis. BOF/CRS will probably put your pinline ahead of this.

Set up that i have is a old 99-00 solly 1080 and the bindings are Riva 3s, if thats any help

The 1080's are a twin (?), should be fun.

In addition, the above article gives you lits of info on finding a binding mount position, but less on actually performing the mount itself. Get lots of quality beer, take your time, and read this before you get started:

http://www.telemarktips.com/BindingMount.html

Have fun.

[Shredgar]

The ttips instructions are hard to follow.

With my Scarpas, the Ball Of Foot is at the point in the bellows on the medial (inside) side of the boot.

The Center Running Surface is 1/2 the distance between the tip & tail contact points. Holding the skis base-to-base, slide a card or piece of paper between them in from the tips & from the tails till it stops. Mark 'em. Those are your contact points. CRS = 1/2 that distance.

There you go.

I'm no shop tech but the mfr alpine mounts I've checked line up on BOF/CRS.

Mounting twin tip skis w/pins on chord center or balance point will put you too far back due to the extra tail length & weight = ski like dogs woof.

Edited to add: Or use the mfr boot mid-sole mark. That'll likely line up close to BOF/CRS. For a tele boot the boot mid-sole is 1/2 the distance from pinholes to heel.