We're definitely going to war again...

[Stu Gotz]

Although I wouldn't go as far to say that either Bush daughter is an intellectual, I can neither confirm nor deny your statement.

Call me Stu. Only my Dad answers to Mr. Gotz.

[StroupSkier]

Barbara <=== So much hotter than Jenna

Jenna <==== So much kinkier than Barbara.

Would you turn down either one???

[Greydon Clark]

Not sure if anyone listened to Talk of the Nation this morning on NPR. They were asking both Repubs and Dems how they were recognizing the inauguration.

A guy called in on the Republican line (they had separate lines set up) and began talking about how much he despised "Liberal Hate" and how the Liberals needed to finally learn Conservative "Values" and that liberals were welcome into their churches. He talked about Bush's "mandate" and that that Bush didn't need to "pretend" any longer.

It was perhaps the single most frightening bit of dialogue I've heard in a while. What the hell is happening to our country??

Is the preservation of White Privilege really a value?

[Stu Gotz]

Is the preservation of White Privilege really a value?

Damn straight! Now where are my robe and slippers. And bring me my pipe, damnit!

[doofdoof]

Yeah, AKPM! Classic tune. If you've never heard it performed by Eddy Vedder, download it today. He dials it.

Find the video from the Bob Dylan tribute concert - it is even better when watching Eddie sing it.

[doofdoof]

By the way has Dubya managed to bring freedom to Afganistan yet? Or has he just forgotten about this country?

[Snow Dog]

By the way has Dubya managed to bring freedom to Afganistan yet? Or has he just forgotten about this country?

There's about 18,000 troops there, there's a new constitution, presidential elections (first ever) last fall, and parliamentary elections this spring. You don't hear anything because nothing bad is happening.

[Oarhead]

I feel so bad for our young men and women over there. Getting roped into such a clusterfuck.

I certainly sympathize but I have to say I feel more sorry for the innocent people whose houses have been bombed, family memebers killed in the crossfire, and country turned upside down. At least the military people have guns, a chance, and eventually a plane home to mom and dad (hopefully). I share an office with an Iranian guy and his whole damn family live back in Iran - I know he is scared shitless for them. They can't just pack up and go somewhere until things blow over (I know you never insinuated anything like this).

[The Reverend Floater]

You don't hear anything because nothing bad is happening.

Riiiiiiiiiight. No huge poppy trade, no feuding war lords, no lasting intimidation by taliban reminants, right? You should change your handle to "Fox News".

[Mcwop]

Riiiiiiiiiight. No huge poppy trade, no feuding war lords, no lasting intimidation by taliban reminants, right? You should change your handle to "Fox News".

That is a typical Saturday night in Baltimore.

[Stu Gotz]

Hamid Karzai is the mayor of Kabul.

[FNG]

Bad Religion - The State of the End of the Millenium Address

Neighbors, nobody loves you like we do.

Neighbors, your government has triumphed in finally making you a public fit for the 21st century.
Never before has a governing body shown so much concern for the economic well-being of its subjects.

Today we have insulated you from countless factions who threathens your financial liability. Such as the poor; the idealistic foreigners still clinging to their childish notions of social welfare.

Why, you're even kept uninformed of useless propagandist journalism that reports alleged violations of human rights (We all know they wouldn't have been punished if
they hadn't been doing something wrong!!).

And who better to dispense such blantently evident factoids but a self-appointed authority like myself?

Acid Rain is a thing of the past... Too many possible causes, too little signifigance for our modern thinking public. Besides, industrial manufacturing is at an all time low anyway, who needs those narrow minded
laborers. Too many mouths to feed, (heh heh) and to much burden on the pay roll!

Who needs 'em here in the land of the free-time? Some other ass- back-ward country will give us what we need by exploiting its uneducated children anyway.

The Internet has expanded our ability to pacify average americans better than ever by offering fantastical adventures to every corner of the imagination. Your home office is the window to your world, and the heart of
your social life.

Such reclusive behaviour helps clear the roads and public works from overburden. Like the lower middle-class and others who depend shamelessly on their government.

Today you are freer than ever to do what you want, provided you can pay for it!
Remeber, the first word in USA is US!

We have arrived neighbors, we are the priviliged elite!

[joshbu]

There's about 18,000 troops there, there's a new constitution, presidential elections (first ever) last fall, and parliamentary elections this spring. You don't hear anything because nothing bad is happening.

Ahem.

Osama Bin Landen.

That is all.

[Snow Dog]

You should change your handle to "Fox News".

Fox News? They're banned in Canada.

[mr_gyptian]

Ahem.

Osama Bin Landen.

That is all.

Mistaken to be an Illinois Senator last week.

Oh, are any of you not spending any money for the next 24 hours in protest?

I just sold Two Super Duty's. you've got some catching up to do

[Superstar Punani]

Greetings. This is the Secretary of War at the State Department of the United States. We have a problem. The companies want something done about this sluggish world economic situation

Profits have been running a little thin lately and we need to stimulate some growth. Now we know there's an alarmingly high number of young people roaming around in your country with nothing to do but stir up trouble for the police and damage private property. It doesn't look like they'll ever get a job.

It's about time we did something constructive with these people. We've got thousands of 'em here too. They're crawling all over.

The companies think it's time we all sit down, have a serious get-together and start another war. The President? He loves the idea! All those missiles streaming overhead to and fro. Napalm. People running down the road, skin on fire.

The Soviets seem up for it. The Kremlin's been itching for the real thing for years. Hell, Afghanistan's no fun.

So whadya say? We don't even have to win this war. We just want to cut down on some of this excess population. Now look. Just start up a draft; draft as many of those people as you can. We'll call up every last youngster we can get our hands on, hand 'em some speed, give 'em an hour or two to learn how to use an automatic rifle and send 'em on their way.

Libya? El Salvador? How 'bout Northern Ireland? Or a "moderately repressive regime" in South America? We'll just cook up a good Soviet threat story in the Middle East-we need that oil.

We had Libya all ready to go and Colonel Khadafy's hit squad didn't even show up. I tell yaThat man is unreliable. The Kremlin had their fingers on the button just like we did for that one.

Now just think for a minute-We can make this war so big-so BIG. The more people we kill in this war, the more the economy will prosper. We can get rid of practically everybody on your dole queue if we plan this right. Take every loafer on welfare right off our computer rolls.

Now don't worry about demonstrations-just pump up your drug supply.So many people have hooked themselves on heroin and amphetamines since we took over, it's just like Vietnam. We had everybody so busy with LSD they never got too strong. Kept the war functioning just fine

It's easy. We've got our college kids so interested in beer they don't even care if we start manufacturing germ bombs again. Put a nuclear stockpile in their back yard, they wouldn't even know what it looked like.

So how 'bout it? Look-War is money. The arms manufacturers tell me unless we get our bomb factories up to full production the whole economy is going to collapse. The Soviets are in the same boat.

We all agree the time has come for the big one, so whadya say?!?

That's excellent. We knew you'd agree
The companies will be very pleased.

[Duker]

Punani- Id be laughing hysterically at your post, except for the fact that I am a middle class 18 year old. I'd have no problem defending my country if it was required, but this is just getting out of hand.Im scared for what could happen to me my brothers and my friends. If we invade Iran we are in deeper than we ever were in Vietnam. Screw bush.

[Superstar Punani]

Down at the arsenal they keep the nerve gasses
Guarded day and night by caged white rabbits
Been sitting there for years
I'm gonna have at it
I cut through the fence, run right in and grab it
Go crazy crazy crazy crazy:

Now I got my own mustard gas in my pocket
Climb on a tree on a branch and drop it
On a country club full of Saturday golfers
So I can watch them die chokin' shakin'in convulsions
Go crazy crazy crazy crazy
Crazy crazy crazy crazy:

Chemical Warfare Chemical Warfare
Chemical Warfare Warfare Warfare

Panic in the air
See the headless chickens runnin'
Golf carts head on crashin'
Crackin' heads wide open
Scratch the grass, mister, you can't breath
And roll and writhe in a sandtrap
Starting to heave
Claw those clubs, lemme see you seethe
Crazy Crazy Crazy Crazy Crazy Crazy

Chemical Warfare Chemical Warfare
Chemical Warfare Warfare Warfare

Yellow air
Yellow clouds
Blowin' down down down the fairway
Sensitive to the touch
Mowin' down the putting green
Heading straight for the big clubhouse
Where the stuffed country club
Effervescent ladies, so carefree
Relax, pose by the pool
Limber limp with a dry martini
Until

Chemical Warfare Chemical Warfare
Chemical Warfare Warfare Warfare!

Chemical Warfare Chemical Warfare
Chemical Warfare Warfare Warfare!

[mr_gyptian]

Punani- Id be laughing hysterically at your post, except for the fact that I am a middle class 18 year old. I'd have no problem defending my country if it was required, but this is just getting out of hand.Im scared for what could happen to me my brothers and my friends. If we invade Iran we are in deeper than we ever were in Vietnam. Screw bush.

150,000 troops, approximately, in Iraq.

500,000 troops in Vietnam at its height.

Roughly 58,616 US troops were KIA.

I think the number of KIA in Iraq is almost 1,370.

I'm sure Google could have provided such in depth analysis.

for the millionth time. Bush never met a draft he didn't...Oh wait, he's never met a draft. Tell those those fine careerist dem's from New York to stop yipping about a draft. Not that it matters. There are stem cells that have a better chance at becoming legislation than any thing Rangel or Chuck Schumer introduces.

[snorkeldeep]

150,000 troops, approximately, in Iraq.

500,000 troops in Vietnam at its height.

Roughly 58,616 US troops were KIA.

I think the number of KIA in Iraq is almost 1,370.

I'm sure Google could have provided such in depth analysis.

for the millionth time. Bush never met a draft he didn't...Oh wait, he's never met a draft. Tell those those fine careerist dem's from New York to stop yipping about a draft. Not that it matters. There are stem cells that have a better chance at becoming legislation than any thing Rangel or Chuck Schumer introduces.

ITYSPPS (I told you so post preservation service).

give it 12 months. duker - i hear ya, im in a similar boat, and feel the same way about it.

[mr_gyptian]

I'm not betting on the KIA's.


however troops involved is another story. 200 clams says there will never be more than 250,000 troops in Iraq.

[nest]

Mr. Gyptian=Car Salesman=Perfect

[Duker]

I agree with you gyptian, we probably wont have that many troops in Iran, However when we are trying to maintain 3 different "wars" or "policing" opperations we are spreading it too thin. Btw, Are you saying you would be for a war in Iran?

[cj001f]

however troops involved is another story. 200 clams says there will never be more than 250,000 troops in Iraq.

How many civilians are in support roles in Iraq? Don't forget their jobs used to be done by the military before they were outsourced.

[Woodsy]

Punani- Id be laughing hysterically at your post, except for the fact that I am a middle class 18 year old. I'd have no problem defending my country if it was required, but this is just getting out of hand.Im scared for what could happen to me my brothers and my friends. If we invade Iran we are in deeper than we ever were in Vietnam. Screw bush.

[clash]Career opportunity, the ones that never knock
I hate the army an'I hate the RAF
I don't wanna go fighting in the tropical heat
I hate the civil service rules
And I won't open letter bombs for you[/clash]