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Thread: PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

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    PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

    Re: ATK freeraider 15: anyone know what size Allen wrench is needed for the freeride spacer shims? It seems to be somewhere between 2 & 2.5mm (seemingly the only two I have that are close)

    [ETA]answered in other thread: T10
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    Looking forward to getting them in snow

    Having now installed the shims on the FR spacer to <1mm gap, I’m seeing the autoclik step-in brake no longer works. Is it better to increase the spacer gap a little or just manually lock the brake each time?
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    Comparing to older setup:
    BC Corvus w/ Look HM12 (Dynafit rotation rebrand)
    Shorter by 4cm
    Down a few mm underfoot
    Tip & tail about the same (w/in a mm)
    Lighter binding by almost half
    Lighter skis by a few hundred grams
    Turning radius shorter by 1m
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    I'm getting ready to do a couple of mounts but am like 10 years out of the game.

    Paper templates still the way to go, or is there something better that's easily accessible and won't break the bank?

    Jigarex still a thing?

    Daughter just got a 3d printer for xmas, should I try to do something with that?

    Am I missing something new and cool?

    (Sorry if redundant, coming back after a multi-year TGR hiatus and am too many pages behind to catch up on this whole thread).

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    I got one of these last year but finally used it the other day, works mint. Supremely easy. Need to print some additional inserts for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
    I'm getting ready to do a couple of mounts but am like 10 years out of the game.

    Paper templates still the way to go, or is there something better that's easily accessible and won't break the bank?

    Jigarex still a thing?

    Daughter just got a 3d printer for xmas, should I try to do something with that?

    Am I missing something new and cool?

    (Sorry if redundant, coming back after a multi-year TGR hiatus and am too many pages behind to catch up on this whole thread).
    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...ig-(printable)

    (thread for the 3d printed jig pinned linked)
    I also have one and it's great. Paper templates still work of course, but this is so much faster and hard to screw up.

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    I bought used skis with quiver killers installed. If I do another pair of skis with binding freedom inserts (because I have them) are they interchangeable? If I run out of inserts of one kind can I mix and match?
    Binding freedom tools good for installation of quiver killer inserts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhyatt View Post
    I bought used skis with quiver killers installed. If I do another pair of skis with binding freedom inserts (because I have them) are they interchangeable? If I run out of inserts of one kind can I mix and match?
    Binding freedom tools good for installation of quiver killer inserts?
    QK & BF inserts are interchangeable.

    The main difference between the two, are the Binding Freedom inserts have a notch for a flat head screw driver:

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    (Thanks to @1000oaks for the images.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlpiNord View Post
    QK & BF inserts are interchangeable.

    The main difference between the two, are the Binding Freedom inserts have a notch for a flat head screw driver:

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    (Thanks to @1000oaks for the images.)
    Awesome thanks that's super helpful
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    I just found this mounting jig in my basement that I forgot I had. Will this work on all my old school 916s? What about the new strive 16? On the left it says driver quadrax poweraxe. How the hell do I use it? Lol. I bought the wrong size ski drill specific bit. Do I just use like the closest thing the 4 mm that I have? I’ve only mounted skis using a jigarex but that was a longgggggg time ago

    https://imgur.com/gallery/H2zbP9P

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    Quote Originally Posted by couloirman View Post
    I just found this mounting jig in my basement that I forgot I had. Will this work on all my old school 916s? What about the new strive 16? On the left it says driver quadrax poweraxe. How the hell do I use it? Lol. I bought the wrong size ski drill specific bit. Do I just use like the closest thing the 4 mm that I have? I’ve only mounted skis using a jigarex but that was a longgggggg time ago

    https://imgur.com/gallery/H2zbP9P
    That's the same Salomon jig I have. It'll work on 916, 997, 900, 912/914, and similar era. It'll fit a few of the Warden holes, and then can freehand the rest with the bindings. No idea on Strive.

    Quadrax was a different old mount pattern IIRC.

    Poweraxe was the riser plate, which used a different set of holes, but then the plates had the standard 916/914/900 etc pattern. I've used the Poweraxe plates to fit a mount where holes would otherwise overlap or be a little closer than I prefer.
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    OK, but also, how the hell do I use this thing? Do I just shove my boot in there between the blue stoppers and then lock it to length when the blue plastic pieces are tight against my toe and heel and then line up the center blue arrow with the center length of the ski, clamp the ends down, and drill all the holes that say driver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by couloirman View Post
    OK, but also, how the hell do I use this thing? Do I just shove my boot in there between the blue stoppers and then lock it to length when the blue plastic pieces are tight against my toe and heel and then line up the center blue arrow with the center length of the ski, clamp the ends down, and drill all the holes that say driver?
    Yes. The jig has a center mark that should match your boot center mark (the A line). The jig center mark should be aligned with the ski marking for boot center - - and there's often a range or several markings, so give that some thought on where you mount.

    Doublecheck that the length doesn't slip any when you're fine tuning the jig fore/ aft on the ski. And hold your bindings up to the jig and match up the holes, be sure you're drilling ones that you actually need.
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    I would add, assuming you have never used a jig, take a measurement from the tail of the ski to a point on the jig. Make sure you get the same measurement after you drilled the first ski and have things aligned on the second ski. At least if its slightly off the recommended on the first ski they will be mounted to the same point.

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    Where can I get a new set of screws to mount my 916s? What kind of screws are they? A few of mine are stripped. Also did something stupid. I screwed in the heel of the binding but I forgot the little metal plate that sits under the front few screws so I bubbled out the base since they were effectively too long. It’s not too bad, and it’s just a used pair of Franken Blades for my wife, but I feel dumb.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/RSFHyKG


    Also, how do I get the photos to actually embed? Man that was annoying lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinned View Post
    Mounting Pivot 2.0s - same as standard? Can use the regular Pivot templates, right? Do I need to make any adjustments to how I mount? I normally use all the distances from the paper template and forward pressure is good right in the middle of the range.
    just posted in the paper template thread as well, but my experience was that I was further forward of my intended line on the pivot 2.0 binding using the fks template. on all my 1.0s ive always been right over my intended line. I also had to tighten/shorten the arms close to the first knurl to get forward pressure right.

    im also thinking my old pivots are in real need of a greasing because the 2.0 heels move around a bit easier with forward pressure set right and the boot in the binding

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlpiNord View Post
    QK & BF inserts are interchangeable.

    The main difference between the two, are the Binding Freedom inserts have a notch for a flat head screw driver:

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    Quiver Killers:

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    (Thanks to @1000oaks for the images.)
    Ive used BF inserts since the beginning. The brand doesn't matter but if you use the Slidewright insert installation tool you will land then in the correct place every time and look like a pro.

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    My 4.5year old has skis with Salomon c5gw Bindings on it with a din range of 0-4. I can’t find any din charts that go this low. He probably weighs, I don’t know, maybe 40 pounds. I randomly have his din set on about 1.75. Anyone else with tiny skiers have any recommendations on din settings for the teenys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by couloirman View Post
    My 4.5year old has skis with Salomon c5gw Bindings on it with a din range of 0-4. I can’t find any din charts that go this low. He probably weighs, I don’t know, maybe 40 pounds. I randomly have his din set on about 1.75. Anyone else with tiny skiers have any recommendations on din settings for the teenys?
    https://www.mechanicsofsport.com/ski...alculator.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearcub69 View Post
    just posted in the paper template thread as well, but my experience was that I was further forward of my intended line on the pivot 2.0 binding using the fks template. on all my 1.0s ive always been right over my intended line. I also had to tighten/shorten the arms close to the first knurl to get forward pressure right.
    anyone else have this problem mounting up the pivot 2.0?
    going to try to dial it in on a practice piece of wood, just can't figure out why the 2.0s would be putting my boot center forward of the line compared to the 1.0s ive mounted

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    Mounted up 203 shiros and few season old m-pros.

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    Nice bike

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    So does anyone here have experience mounting the strive 16? It’s weird. There’s a two screw wide plastic strip that mounts first, and then only two screws for the actual toe piece. What’s the strategy? What’s the template? Any pitfalls to avoid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    That's the same Salomon jig I have. It'll work on 916, 997, 900, 912/914, and similar era. It'll fit a few of the Warden holes, and then can freehand the rest with the bindings. No idea on Strive.

    Quadrax was a different old mount pattern IIRC.

    Poweraxe was the riser plate, which used a different set of holes, but then the plates had the standard 916/914/900 etc pattern. I've used the Poweraxe plates to fit a mount where holes would otherwise overlap or be a little closer than I prefer.


    So then, which of the currently produced available, Salomon bindings will work with this jig? Or is it all legacy products?

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    Quote Originally Posted by couloirman View Post
    So does anyone here have experience mounting the strive 16? It’s weird. There’s a two screw wide plastic strip that mounts first, and then only two screws for the actual toe piece. What’s the strategy? What’s the template? Any pitfalls to avoid?
    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...18#post7014518

    I just installed some Strive 14's - drill holes, fasten stupid plastic toe parts, gently tap rest of toe piece into stupid plastic toe pieces with a rubber mallet or chunk of wood to seat them all they way, them insert other screws.

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