PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

[El Kanone]

I need to remount and old pair of dyna- dukes, I will reuse original screws. What size drill bit diameter do I need and how deep into the ski should I go? What is a good way to plug the holes? I live far from any shops so would like to use stuff I have or can get from hardware store. Will just dropping repair ptex candle drips work?
Thanks

[AlpiNord]

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Seems similar on a general scale to the post above

Edit: I pulled my old toe. It looks like with some [selective shimming] will allow it to seat on the GW plate:













….but how the height from wings to AFD might need some adjustment.





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[AlpiNord]

Now I’m thinking the main difference is simply the thickness of the middle of the base plates. The middle of original base plate is flush with sides. The GE plates are recessed. I’m sure there is something else, but throwing them back on the skis, I’m not finding any other substantial, geometric difference….yet:









As far as I can see, an infill piece needs to be part of the mix or a frankenplate like the one previously, might be an option to get the geometry correct.

(This side topic might be best to include in the Grip Walk vs WTR thread: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...-Vs-WTR-Pivots)


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[2FUNKY]

Mount your own fucking skis in the parking lot.


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[SkiLyft]

Mount your own fucking skis in the parking lot.


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Haaaaa, glad we could get sex panther on a proper ski!!


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[Shorty_J]

Mount your own fucking skis in the parking lot.


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That is pretty rad!

I've mounted the day before but this is a step above.

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[Shorty_J]

Mount your own fucking skis in the parking lot.


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I like this... strong work!

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[sb]

Seen boaters taping up kayaks before a flooded creek run. How do you think that turned out?

Helped a buddy once mount/replace bindings in the parking lot about 30 years ago.

Not seeing any proper adult libations in that shot and Markers.

Ugh.

[XXX-er]

actualy IME ductaping a crack in a WW boat would keep the water out and last a long time, re-tape once a season but taping up a crack doesnt have to be very exact whereas mounting a binding does

[eskido]

I’ve used marine grade epoxy to fix some massive cracks and they held for years, still going as far as I know, boat was givin away long ago. I don’t think I’d trust duct tape in a river, but in a pinch, Fuck yeah.
Also FWIW I’ve bought AFD’s from CAST to convert GW’s to alpine, they have both, it’s a super easy swap

[XXX-er]

Ductape has always been pretty common on the river, pre 1983ish plastic boats were made by hand out of FG in someones garage using a mold, often they make > one from the mold. if you hit some thing it starts leaking so slap ductape on, once a month get a case of beer and have a patch party in that same garage where they fix all the damage on ever buddies boat with epoxy & FG.

Plastic boats from about 83 on were pretty indestructible but early plastic was mostly impossible to permanently fix when they cracked so more ductape, I got a 4-6" crack under my seat of my Dancer so when I popped the deck to see WTF the water was coming from I could see the bottom of a very big river, so I ductaped it for the next 4 yrs until I got a new boat

rip a dryssuit seal just ductape it, same with a hole in the suit just ductape it, hole in spray deck ductape it, blisters on my thumb were prevented with ductape

But I'm just not really sure how ductape on a ww kayak correlates to instaling ski bindings in a p-lot ?

[sb]

GF was gifted some Armada ARW skis and bindings, in need of a remount for her boot size. Had no jig for that one so i eyeballed it. Looks pretty good.

[Pinned]

Wondering if anyone's got knowledge of some really old bindings and hole patterns...

I picked up a minty set of Spatulas but they have ancient Marker M.1100 Titanium demo bindings. I think they changed pattern in ~2015/16 but can't find a sure answer. If anyone knows what the newest bindings that share this hole pattern are I'd like to try and track a pair down.

Front hole pattern is 35mm width x 65mm length
Rear hole pattern is 22mm width (front most holes), 40mm width (rear most holes) x 100mm length between holes.

[sb]

The Volants i had i just put in plugs and redrilled.

Reckon you could make a paper template from the holes and take it with you to a ski shop to compare.

Put a call out to Marker, cringe, to see if they have anything to fit?

Congrats on finding those.

[SoVT Joey]

Wondering if anyone's got knowledge of some really old bindings and hole patterns...

I picked up a minty set of Spatulas but they have ancient Marker M.1100 Titanium demo bindings. I think they changed pattern in ~2015/16 but can't find a sure answer. If anyone knows what the newest bindings that share this hole pattern are I'd like to try and track a pair down.

Front hole pattern is 35mm width x 65mm length
Rear hole pattern is 22mm width (front most holes), 40mm width (rear most holes) x 100mm length between holes.

those are a marker comp heel pattern, the toes are going to be hard to match though, I THINK, not positive, the toes may be able to reuse holes. But they are probably mounted at a standard 315mm demo clamp mount, I’d plan on reusing heel holes and new toe holes. The old marker toes were three hole, new ones are 4.

[Pinned]

The Volants i had i just put in plugs and redrilled.

Reckon you could make a paper template from the holes and take it with you to a ski shop to compare.

Put a call out to Marker, cringe, to see if they have anything to fit?

Congrats on finding those.

I may email Marker and see if they've got any info, good suggestion. I know this pattern doesn't match any of the current demo or retail bindings.

Can't take any credit for finding these - they were posted by a mag and facilitated by another mag. Thinking I'd like to put demo bindings on if I can so they're not locked into a single BSL.

those are a marker comp heel pattern, the toes are going to be hard to match though, I THINK, not positive, the toes may be able to reuse holes. But they are probably mounted at a standard 315mm demo clamp mount, I’d plan on reusing heel holes and new toe holes. The old marker toes were three hole, new ones are 4.

Good tip. I found a template for a Marker Comp heel that looks really close, but the heel screws are 10mm further apart front to back on the demo binding.

Was thinking I'd try to find a demo binding that's a bit newer but same pattern. If I can't do that then maybe I'll just swap for something like Attack demos or Look demos.

[PeachesNCream]

I think it’s unlikely you’ll find something that matches, but probably still worth the call to marker. I like the idea of attack demos (noteably better than look demos imo) and they work for GW, AT, and alpine soles and most BSLs so in theory you’ll never have to mount again


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[MacFive]

Im buying a pair of used skis flat that were mounted for pivots and Ill probably need to reuse the holes. The holes have been filled with epoxy. Should I be using helicoils when mounting in the same holes? Open to suggestions here, not to sure what to do.

[XXX-er]

If you ^^ want to use the old holes try drilling the same holes with a very small bit ( that one you usually break 1st ) to make a pilot hole

[PeachesNCream]

Im buying a pair of used skis flat that were mounted for pivots and Ill probably need to reuse the holes. The holes have been filled with epoxy. Should I be using helicoils when mounting in the same holes? Open to suggestions here, not to sure what to do.

You sure they’re not plastic plugs? I know people do epoxy filled but relatively uncommon in my experience. If they are plastic, pull the plugs by screw in a small screw and pulling out. If they are epoxy, drill out first using a pilot hole like xxx said. You can screw right into these holes and will probably work. If you get a spinner, let it set with slow set epoxy and try again, if still a spinner, do a helicoil or insert


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[XXX-er]

You can pull a plastic plug ^^ using a dri-wall screw but I've drilled thru the plastic plug, screwed right into and that worked

[PeachesNCream]

You can pull a plastic plug ^^ using a dri-wall screw but I've drilled thru the plastic plug, screwed right into and that worked

Yeah, I meant to add that, edited. Good to know you can also drill through the plastic plug


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[XXX-er]

in need of a remount for her boot size. Had no jig for that one so i eyeballed it. Looks pretty good.

I have a small BSL so I'm that chick, its not unusual for me to need to redrill so usually I just move the heelpiece and its only gona be off by 1/2 of that distance between BC and whatever line I'm using on the ski which i call negligible

With holes already in the ski from a mount someone has already done layout for me so its super easy to just measure 2 cms forward of the rear binding holes on the ski and drill the new holes

[Just Looking]

with help from the og jiga-rex

[sweatypowderpig]

with help from the og jiga-rex

god damn it, my wife is gonna kill me.
FL105s inbound! this sealed the deal