WEED, The Official Thread

[Bobby Stainless]

mirre turns out nice and frosty.

Yeah Mirre is fire.

Anything from Karma Genetics is pretty much dank.

[Moeghoul]

30 days on 12/12, PPP clones, progressing nicely, don't want to fuck things up in the final stretch, so some pro opinions on harvest timing would be appreciated. I've read widely varying timing and color opinions. These are in soil, PH around 6.5, looks like they're somewhere in the clear going to milky zone right now. TIA.

[GordonShumway]

30 days on 12/12, PPP clones, progressing nicely, don't want to fuck things up in the final stretch, so some pro opinions on harvest timing would be appreciated. I've read widely varying timing and color opinions. These are in soil, PH around 6.5, looks like they're somewhere in the clear going to milky zone right now. TIA.

The regulars here can probably help you out more than I can but I'm about as far along as you are, and I've been told to monitor the trichromes. You can pick up a cheap jewelers loop and look at them in the light from the side, when 80+ % are cloudy and not clear you're ready. Generally about 8-9 weeks after flipping the lights. Other signs include the pistils receding back into the bud and turning red - I think you want ~90% red hairs, but the trichrome thing is the most accurate way of telling

[GordonShumway]

Little help gardening bros?

I'm about 4.5 weeks into flower and and my buds look to be coming along nicely. However one of my plants leaves are already starting to yellow. I know that's normal as the plant pulls N from the fan leaves to put into producing the buds, but I thought this was a little early for it to be happening. What say you all? I'm watering twice a week, about 1/2 gallon per plant and feed about 2 out of 3 waterings with Fox Farm Tiger bloom and Big bloom. It seems like they should be getting enough nutrients, but I didn't expect yellowing until last last week or so.

[NoPostholio]

Iso alcohol and kosher salt. Shake it around and watch the crud dissappear

ISO alc and rock salt FTW

Hot water and oxyclean soak in a pinch

Worked like a charm - thanks!

[spook]

Anti-marijuana laws were based on racism, not science


http://io9.com/anti-marijuana-laws-w...nce-1500321449

Is marijuana's beer-like buzz more damaging than what people get from hard liquor? Is there a scientific reason why this drug is deemed so dangerous and illegal? Nope. It turns out that marijuana prohibition laws in the 1930s were designed to prevent "darkies" from thinking "they're as good as white men."
Over at The Fix, Maia Szalavitz has a great takedown of pundits like Tina Brown and David Brooks, who recently made specious claims that marijuana makes you stupider. Brown actually said Americans who smoke pot won't be able to "compete" with the Chinese. Her moment of xenophobia wasn't out of keeping with the history of anti-pot rhetoric.
Writes Szalavitz:

The truth is that our perceptions of marijuana—and in fact all of our drug laws—are based on early 20th century racism and "science" circa the Jim Crow era. In the early decades of the 20th century, the drug was linked to Mexican immigrants and black jazzmen, who were seen as potentially dangerous.
Harry Anslinger, the first commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics (an early predecessor of the DEA), was one of the driving forces behind pot prohibition. He pushed it for explicitly racist reasons, saying, "Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men," and:
"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the U.S., and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others."
The main reason to prohibit marijuana, he said was "its effect on the degenerate races." (And god forbid women should sleep with entertainers!)
Although it sounds absurd now, it was this type of propaganda that caused the drug to be outlawed in 1937—along with support from the Hearst newspapers, which ran ads calling marijuana "the assassin of youth" and published stories about how it led to violence and insanity. Anslinger remained as head of federal narcotics efforts as late as 1962, whereafter he spread his poisonous message to the world as the American representative to the U.N. for drug policy for a further two years.
Before marijuana was made illegal, the American Medical Association's opposition to prohibition was ignored, as was an earlier report on marijuana in India by the British government, which did not find marijuana to be particularly addictive or dangerous. That "Indian Hemp Drugs Committee" reporthad concluded way back in 1894 that, "The moderate use of hemp drugs is practically attended by no evil results at all."

Read more at The Fix

[k2skier112]

Oh for fucks sake! If I wasn't skiing today I'd look this dooshbag up!

Temperance advocate decries legal pot
An anti-legalization figure comes to Oregon to address professional groups, lawmakers
By Noelle Crombie ncrombie@oregonian.com  
The country’s most outspoken anti-marijuana crusader brought his message to Oregon this week, warning that legalizing the drug will boost addiction rates, hook young people and enrich a powerful marijuana lobby.
Kevin Sabet is scheduled to appear at2 p.m. today before the Oregon Senate and House interim judiciary committees. Senate Judiciary Chairman Sen. Floyd Prozanski, D›Eugene, wants the Oregon Legislature to refer a legalization initiative to voters in November.
In appearances this week before drug addiction treatment professionals, prosecutors, police and social service providers, the 34-year-old Sabet attacked what he called common “myths” about marijuana and raised the specter of an influential marijuana industry dependent not on casual marijuana smokers but on young addicts. “Folks think they are voting for allowing otherwise responsible adults to grow a little bit of pot in their backyard and smoke a little weed without having the cops on their back,” Sabet said. “I don’t think we fully realize as a country what we are getting into.
“This is not about your nice neighbor who likes to smoke a joint after work once a week,” he said. “It’s really about creating the next Big Tobacco, an industry that thrives off of addiction.”
Sabet describes himself as a non-partisan centrist who founded the nonprofit Smart Approaches to Marijuana with former U.S. Rep Patrick Kennedy. A political appointee who worked on drug issues under presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, Sabet said he was invited to speak this week at a leadership seminar for the Oregon Association of Chiefs of Police. His travel expenses were paid for by the Oregon Narcotics Enforcement Association.
Marijuana proponents vigorously dispute Sabet’s claims, calling him a fearmonger who distorts marijuana’s harms.
“The biggest problem with Sabet,” said Russ Belville, a Portland legalization advocate and host of a cannabis radio show, “is he wants to treat all adult marijuana consumers as if they are addicts in need of treatment.”
Sabet counters that Americans don’t realize how potent today’s marijuana is and how it’s increasingly marketed to teens in the form of pot-infused candies, sweets and junk food.
His message resonated with Judy Cushing, executive director of Lines for Life, a drug and suicide prevention agency in Portland. Cushing said parents of high school students need to know the harms associated with marijuana, but she also worries there’s not enough money to fund a well-organized opposition to legalization in Oregon.
“It would have to be a grassroots effort” among people interested in protecting “the health of Oregon’s youth,” she said.
Sabet pointed to several studies that show the negative side of a drug that a 2013 study found an estimated 12 to 14 percent of American adults have used in the previous year. Some of the data he presented this week were based on Colorado’s experience with medical marijuana, which voters in that state approved in 2000.
One study, released in August 2013 by the federally funded Rocky Mountain High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area, found marijuana use among 12-to 17-year-olds in Colorado was higher than the national average in 2011. One in four high school students in the Boulder County School District said they were current marijuana users — three times the national rate.
In another district, Colorado Springs, the average number of students testing positive for marijuana increased from 5.6 per year in 2007-09 to 17.3 in 2010-12.
Nationally, 6.6 percent of American high school seniors reported daily marijuana use in 2011; In Colorado, 7.8 percent of high school seniors said they used the drug 40 or more times a month.
Teens, claimed Sabet, are especially vulnerable to marijuana’s ill-affects, which, according to one study out of New Zealand, include a longterm decline in IQ. One in six adolescents who consume marijuana are at risk for becoming addicted to the drug, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse. The institute found that after years of declining marijuana use among American teens, the latest five-year trend shows a significant climb in use among 10th- and 12th-graders.
Legalization advocates argue that marijuana is safer than alcohol and should be treated the same way, an argument Sabet rejects.
He said alcohol harms families, leads to violence and other social ills and should be viewed as a cautionary tale.
“When people think about it for more than two seconds,” he said, “they think, ‘Why would wewant to follow that same path as a model for public health?’”
He compared that to saying, “Our tail light is broken so we should smash in our headlight so we are consistent.”
Sabet said he doesn’t support the arrest and prosecution of marijuana consumers. Addicts should get “brief intervention and treatment,” and other recreational users should be subject to some type of civil penalty, such as a fine.
“You have to have some sanction if it’s illegal,” he said.
He also said he supports federal research of marijuana, which he acknowledged has medicinal properties.
The American Medical Association also supports research into marijuana. The group last year issued a position statement repeating its opposition to legal marijuana and medical cannabis, but also called on the federal government to review the marijuana’s classification as a Schedule I controlled substance with “the goal of facilitating the conduct of clinical research and development of cannabinoid-based medicines.”
According to the federal government, drugs that fall under that classification, which include heroin and ecstasy, have no “accepted medical use” and have a “high potential for abuse.”
His visit to the state comes as marijuana advocates ramp up efforts to get a legalization initiative on the fall ballot.
Belville, who debated Sabet in 2012 at Rice University, said legalization would lead to a regulated industry, which would include age limits on who can legally use the drug and public service messages that encourage its “responsible use.”
Belville dismissed Sabet’s argument about the marijuana industry targeting young consumers.
“Big Marijuana is going to want to make money,” he said. “The people they can sell their marijuana to are 21 and older. It doesn’t do them any good to market to a younger customer base.”
Dan Riffle, a former prosecutor in Ohio and lobbyist with the Marijuana Policy Project, a Washington, D.C.-based group that advocates for legalization, recently debated Sabet on CSPAN. In an interview this week with The Oregonian, Riffle said Mexican cartels, not tax-paying, regulated business owners, already profit from sale of the drug.
“That is who is in control of the marijuana market,” Riffle said. “That is who is selling marijuana to the 80 to 90 percent of high school students who say it’s easy to obtain.”
If legalized, marijuana could be regulated the same way tobacco is: with tough rules on advertising and marketing to young people.
“People shouldn’t be selling marijuana-themed lollipops and candy,” Riffle said.
Riffle called Sabet’s focus on the idea of corporate marijuana and the threat to young people as a “21st century version of ‘Reefer Madness.’”
But Sabet’s said his views shouldn’t be viewed as extreme.
“That is the narrative: We are the old-fashioned worry warts that are relics of the 1930s and ’20s.
Said Sabet: “They belittle anybody that who is not in favor if this.”

[Tippster]

Well this is going faster than I thought: Bill Would Regulate & Tax Marijuana Like Alcohol In Maryland

[liv2ski]

I am here to state my wife's brownies are the shizzle. That is all

[glademaster]

Just picked up an Arizer Extreme Q vaporizer for my place last week, really enjoying the device so far. Offers you the option of a whip or a bag for vapor consumption, quick and easy to pack and clean. Between this and my Pax I should be basically smoke free at home and anywhere else.

The Extreme Q may not feel as high end as a Volcano in terms of build quality, but it hits every bit as hard for about 1/3 of the price and is still a nice looking accessory.

[NoPostholio]

EQ is what I have had for couple years - Can't beat the price and performance. Nothing like a frosty white pillow to take hits off of -
If you have extra screen make sure to rotate once every couple bowls -

save that duff for excellent cannabuttering

[NoPostholio]

We can makes lbs of that C butt - while you show me what this shatter n wax is all about. Get me ready for some CO shopping

[rideit]

That dirty stinkin' commie President.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...g-alcohol.html

[rideit]

Wait...Colorado vs. Washington Super BOWL?
Oh, the irony!
I should make some tshirts STAT!

[rideit]

Think of the munchies!

[JONG SLAUGHTER]

.........

YOU'RE USING BLOOM NUTES. ADD SOME N......SIMPLE.

[splat]

[Bobby Stainless]

Blue Sonja

[DickMerkin]

Bobby... how many ladies is that???

[KQ]

dibs on one of the rideit classics
just be sure it is SEATTLE because the bumfucks on the country side of our state are still 420 frightened
b

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr you can say that again. City close to me (I'm unincorporated) was all set to move forward. Had planned were stores would be, accepted apps for growing and processing it was all so amazing given where I live. I was sooooo freakin' proud of all the tight ass little conservatives for sucking it up and putting on their big boys pants but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Now that Mr. Attorney General opened his big mouth giving cities an out the local city council is reversing itself and issuing a moratorium. Oh yeah.... it's all good to be one of the biggest producers of wine and contribute alcoholism and drunk driving (you think ppl driving from winery to winery are sober?) but we can't have pot heads running around (let's not talk about our meth problems - I can't keep brass sprinkler heads on my handlines because the meth heads steal them for money).

My neighbor (bless her small little brain) is freaked out about legalized MJ. She swears it is the gateway to harder drugs and will lead to no good. Soon we will have legalized meth! Ppls lives are going to be ruined, RUINED! She told me a story about some ppl she knew that lost everything due to drugs and claims it all started with MJ. I told her I would bet even money it started with good ol' legal alcohol. She just kinda sputtered.

The real funny thing about all her "start with MJ and it's down the rabbit hole" ranting is that she has admitted to MJ use in her life but does not now and never moved on to anything else. If that is true for her why can't it be true for others just as some ppl can drink socially and others become drunks. Oh the hypocrisy.

[liv2ski]

KQ, in a less uptight world, pot is definitely a gateway drug and frankly, for adults I am ok with a lot of stuff legally being sold and the proceeds used by the guberment for counseling.
All of my favorite drugs have an organic base, whether that is wheat rust for LSD, shrooms, buttons, whatever. For some that may be cocaine, heroin, etc as these also come from natural compounds.
I would love to see all of the natural drugs legalized. Roll the laws back to a 1900 level. But with neighbors like yours freaking out about pot, that isn't happening in my lifetime.

[iceman]

Breast Milk is the real gateway drug.

[KQ]

Breast Milk is the real gateway drug.

If you REALLY wanted to get to the beginning wouldn't it be caffeine? and how about nicotine? Pffffffft, the only reason, IMHO, that MJ is a "gateway drug" is because it doesn't do enough to turn the addicts crank. Again, IMHO, ppl who are Meth, Heroine, Cocaine etc. etc. addicts didn't get what they needed from MJ so they moved on. It's like taking a bite of each chocolate in the box until you find the one you like. You do it because your looking for that that one you want not because the first bite lowered your inhibition but hey.... maybe I'm way off base and it's just taking me 20 years to get through the gate. Help! I'm stuck! Ahhhhhhhhhh!

[KQ]

i went way past the gate into the yard of crack but didn't cross the threshold of dripped horse because i was led back thru the gate to mj.
the gate swings in both directions for good and bad.
b

I am soooooooo needle phobic that I can't even think about that crap. "Feeling good" and "needles" do not go together in my book.

[Bromontana]

Reading the news yesterday I realized that the wealthiest/most charitable and most powerful people in the US of A support cannabis reform. Bill Gates & Barack Obama.

Maybe this post should be in polyass but I thought that was a pretty impressive endorsement.