WEED, The Official Thread

[NoPostholio]

^^^^awesome....finally something to get excited about in elections!

[stfu]

anyone else making tincture?


green fog?

butter we got - 4-5# in the freezer

last batch of THC laced ETOH I made was described as Captain Insano

[jahoney]

butter is a good way to go.. gotta make it potent though.

my buddies made caramels with weed butter. taaaasty.

[grskier]

Weed is now going to be legal in CO...

[DasBlunt]

Amendment 64 passed, recreational weed use is legal in Colorado. This is a constitutional amendment and is full force, like medical.

History is made.


edit.
I thought at one point legal weed might be too hard to control and had my own doubts and fears, but I think now, seeing medical, I think we can do it, and make history. Colorado is a great state to take this on and make it healthy. I guess my imagination had me focused on growing up in California, and how they just are not ready for certain parts of it?

[Zeedashbo]

Gonna be legal in wa. Looks like i will have a new profession in a year or so.

Did you guys get a rape party of a dui provision in Colorado? we got 5 nanograms for a dui. I am over the limit just thinking about it.

[Rasputin]

Way to go CO.

[Crass3000]

Did you guys get a rape party of a dui provision in Colorado? we got 5 nanograms for a dui. I am over the limit just thinking about it.

How does that work? Given GREAT pot stays in your body for over a month, how do they differentiate whether you were high or are high at the time? Using a bullshit test like they do for alcohol?

[DasBlunt]

How does that work? Given GREAT pot stays in your body for over a month, how do they differentiate whether you were high or are high at the time? Using a bullshit test like they do for alcohol?

Exactly, 5 nano grams here too I believe. It will be mostly for post accident and insurance use, it will be up to the user to prove tolerance and saturation in a court, you fuck up, you fuck up, same shit happens all the time with alcohol, and no mercy is given. DUI checks will be the same, and the same doubt/proof/reason will be applied in any engagement with law enforcement. Furthermore, I think it will help develop convenient and accessible voluntary monitoring devices to help beginners or questionable users not get behind the wheel.

[jahoney]

I just wonder, will there be more marijuana-related DUIs now? And I don't mean from an increase in consumption..

Will cops be less tolerant to drivers that appear to be high? I've been pulled over while high, as have many other people (dumb, I know) but the cops seem to not care as much or not even bring it up. Its always, have you been drinking, sir? No, I haven't.

Never once have I heard a cop ask me if I was smoking marijuana.. and people tell me I'm one of those people that is obviously high when I'm high (red eyes mostly, kind of squinty.. you know)..

[Adamantium]

How does that work? Given GREAT pot stays in your body for over a month, how do they differentiate whether you were high or are high at the time? Using a bullshit test like they do for alcohol?

Exactly, 5 nano grams here too I believe. It will be mostly for post accident and insurance use, it will be up to the user to prove tolerance and saturation in a court, you fuck up, you fuck up, same shit happens all the time with alcohol, and no mercy is given. DUI checks will be the same, and the same doubt/proof/reason will be applied in any engagement with law enforcement. Furthermore, I think it will help develop convenient and accessible voluntary monitoring devices to help beginners or questionable users not get behind the wheel.

The provision in Washington explicitly states 5 ng/mL of THC, not THC-COOH which is the metabolite that stays in your system for hours/days. THC proper is only in the blood stream for a few hours. Here's a chart showing how long these substances last in the bloodstream:



Here's an article with astudy showing the same thing.

measured levels of active THC in 25 long-term heavy marijuana users over a seven-day period. "We chose experienced cannabis smokers, aged 21–45 years, reporting multiple years of use," the report explains. The subjects reported consuming anywhere from a dime bag to 10 blunts a day. Researchers found that only one of the participants had active THC levels above 5 ng/mL on "admission (day 1)," the same day the woman may have consumed marijuana, and the rest of the participants had levels lower than 5 ng/mL. The woman with active THC levels above 5 ng/mL had reported smoking four blunts per day. (Holy cow!) However, the day after smoking, her THC levels had dropped to 2.9 ng/mL. Every other participant's THC levels had dropped even lower by day two as well. By day six, the levels were undetectable in most of the participants—and all of them were far below 5 ng/mL. (For the record, this research and the DUI provision in I-502 both concern active THC, not inactive THC metabolites.)

And here's the section of the law specifying THC and not metabolites:

"THC concentration" means nanograms of delta-9
tetrahydrocannabinol per milliliter of a person's whole blood. THC
concentration does not include measurement of the metabolite THC-COOH,
also known as carboxy-THC.

It is actually a fairly reasonable DUI standard for cannabis. Since there is no breathalyzer equipment for THC, officers would have to administer a field sobriety test and then take suspects back to the station to draw blood and administer a test.

[Bobby Stainless]

Way to go CO!

[vinzclortho]

MMJ looks to pass in MA.

BANG!

question 3 passes! Come on New Hampshire! The last New England state that doesn't allow for medical marijuana is the "live free or die" state. Get it done up there!

legalization CAN'T be that far away. I figure just a couple more years. I wonder if there will be any stigma with having a few plants out in my suburbanite yard once the ganj is legal? Will the neighbors who do homebrewing look at me in disgust? Fuck 'em.

[Sirshredalot]

legalization CAN'T be that far away. I figure just a couple more years. I wonder if there will be any stigma with having a few plants out in my suburbanite yard once the ganj is legal? Will the neighbors who do homebrewing look at me in disgust? Fuck 'em.

Dude, I seriously doubt that your neighbors who homebrew would be offended by you growing. If anything, they might want to collaborate on a green dragon-style beer. C'mon, they're homebrewers. My trolley car suburb neighborhood is full of young families who homebrew and have elaborate vegetable gardens, keep semi-illegal bees and chickens, etc. Admittedly, this is a very liberal town, but when you smell someone lighting one up from the other side of the fenceline, you have no idea which house it is unless they offer to pass it to you through the fence.

Congrats to the many maggots in Colorado or Washington. I'm going to really look forward to my next ski trip to Baker or bike trip to Fruita - while I would never do anything illegal under federal law, you freedom-loving types are promoting the sort of cool and relaxed atmosphere that will be rewarded with the money from my vacation budget. Tell your elected representatives.

[Zeedashbo]

The provision in Washington explicitly states 5 ng/mL of THC, not THC-COOH which is the metabolite that stays in your system for hours/days. THC proper is only in the blood stream for a few hours. Here's a chart showing how long these substances last in the bloodstream:



Here's an article with astudy showing the same thing.

And here's the section of the law specifying THC and not metabolites:


It is actually a fairly reasonable DUI standard for cannabis. Since there is no breathalyzer equipment for THC, officers would have to administer a field sobriety test and then take suspects back to the station to draw blood and administer a test.

You forgot to add the part that says it will take eight hours to get clean enough to drive.

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[leroy jenkins]

This is awesome news, but I wonder, even after alcohol prohibition ended, there was still a lot of illegal liquor because people didn't want to pay taxes. I predict most people continue to buy their weed from a dealer who doesnt pay taxes on it, and cops will continue to enforce the illegality of untaxed weed.

[NoPostholio]

Anyone know how CO and Wash will get their supplys? I know that they already have the medical weed infrastructure, but it seems they would need much more than that can provide. Will there be state grows to support need?

[AdironRider]

More importantly, any thoughts on when I can go to a store and buy it?

[45hill]

Anyone know how CO and Wash will get their supplys? I know that they already have the medical weed infrastructure, but it seems they would need much more than that can provide. Will there be state grows to support need?

Pharmaceutical and big tobacco companies.

[teletripper]

More importantly, any thoughts on when I can go to a store and buy it?

I read somewhere early in 2014 I'll try to find the link.

[AdironRider]

Pharmaceutical and big tobacco companies.

Thought I read somewhere Big Tobbacco was pretty much ready to roll on this, even down to trademarks, etc.

Obviously, it needs to be grown, etc so theres some time there.

[leroy jenkins]

Its funny, cus lots of drugs, like opiates, I trust what comes from the pharma companies more than I would trust the quality/purity/cleanliness of something off the street, but honestly I would be wary to smoke tobacco companies pot. I would be concerned it was full of preservatives at the least, and probably infused with nicotine or something too.

[strawjack]

Come on New Hampshire! The last New England state that doesn't allow for medical marijuana is the "live free or die" state. Get it done up there!

I wish! The 'live free or die' is such a farce, but the tide is turning. We have an incredible amount of conservative people in this state, but the influx of former MA residents are certainly influencing our elections.

CO rocks!

[DasBlunt]

Anyone know how CO and Wash will get their supplys? I know that they already have the medical weed infrastructure, but it seems they would need much more than that can provide. Will there be state grows to support need?

Oct 2013 will be the first opportunity to get licenses for distribution establishments i believe http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/s/r...cohol-act-2012.

Anyone can grow it, unlike tobacco. You can give away an ounce, any sales are to be taxed.

Tobacco companies will certainly jump in this game. Scary. Feed, chemicals, Mold and insects are a big problems for grows and I think a major corporation will only fuck it up worse, cause cancers, and be a pain in the ass.

You will see the same regulations that cigarettes have in terms of second hand smoke, smoking laws, and public safety laws.

[AdironRider]

Oct 2013 will be the first opportunity to get licenses for distribution establishments i believe http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/s/r...cohol-act-2012.

Anyone can grow it, unlike tobacco. You can give away an ounce, any sales are to be taxed.

Tobacco companies will certainly jump in this game. Scary. Feed, chemicals, Mold and insects are a big problems for grows and I think a major corporation will only fuck it up worse, cause cancers, and be a pain in the ass.

You will see the same regulations that cigarettes have in terms of second hand smoke, smoking laws, and public safety laws.

To be honest, Big Tobacco wont let that crap fly as it will hurt the bottom line. No business, whether its the stoner down the street growing in his garage or in a massive big ag field wants to toss away product.

Now additives...thats what worries me.