WEED, The Official Thread

[Tippster]

Think it's possible.....?

http://www.anonews.co/monsanto-weed/

I think it'll turn into AMBEV vs. Microbrews, plonk wine, and top shelf vs. rail liquor. The majority of casual users will buy cheap corporate weed but the folks who can actually tell the difference will buy quality... at a price.

[Game Over]

I find it amusing that Tippster even gave that piece relevancy by replying.

Looks like a lot of projection with absolutely no sources to back it.

[splat]

I'd bet they're already working on how to grow and sell $1 doobies. With some cancerous chemical enhancement.

[Tippster]

I find it amusing that Tippster even gave that piece relevancy by replying.

Looks like a lot of projection with absolutely no sources to back it.

Not commenting on the article itself, but Dude, you do understand that there are ginormous corporations whose business model is to provide their consumers with the means of getting altered, right? To assume that only artisanal providers will flourish should MJ become legal nationally is ridiculous.

if it's not the pivot for AmBev then Philip Morris and other tobacco hucksters (American Spirit?) are certainly well positioned to make a play in the recreational MJ market. The only hope for smaller, non-corporate growers will be the "quality' angle. Shit, in Cali (and probably other places) there are already producers replicating strains in vape oils by mapping the Cannabinoid profiles of various strains and recreating them chemically, giving you the effects of those different highs.

I honestly don't think that growing flowers for smoking is the goal of the burgeoning industry, especially when real money gets involved. It's extracting the various elements from common, easily mass grown hybrids and mixing the ingredients in a lab to make vape products.

[Bobby Stainless]

Pepsi Challenge motherfuckers. Bring it.

[TBS]

Think it's possible.....?

http://www.anonews.co/monsanto-weed/

And exactly how will Monsanto/Bayer "take over" the cannabis biz?

Y'all realize that patents are not granted in the US for illegal substances, like cannabis?

[TBS]

Back on track
Nice crop STFU. What strains?
And those are some frosty bitches Beer Drinker. Purple Kush or something else?

[TBS]

Also, even though I think Leafly's content is lame, this article is kind of interesting. Oregon Liquor Control Commissions, to whom recreational cannabis tax revenues are paid, are struggling under the sheer volume of cash payments from producers and retailers.

https://www.leafly.com/news/industry...ons-tax-office

[Bobby Stainless]

Peyote Purple: Cannabiogen

[NoPostholio]

Lol - Mexico may have to build a wall. Bad hombres are smuggling southbound. Our southern neighbor's want their DURBANS!

http://www.businessinsider.com/calif...mexico-2016-10

[Game Over]

Not commenting on the article itself, but Dude, you do understand that there are ginormous corporations whose business model is to provide their consumers with the means of getting altered, right? To assume that only artisanal providers will flourish should MJ become legal nationally is ridiculous.

if it's not the pivot for AmBev then Philip Morris and other tobacco hucksters (American Spirit?) are certainly well positioned to make a play in the recreational MJ market. The only hope for smaller, non-corporate growers will be the "quality' angle. Shit, in Cali (and probably other places) there are already producers replicating strains in vape oils by mapping the Cannabinoid profiles of various strains and recreating them chemically, giving you the effects of those different highs.

I honestly don't think that growing flowers for smoking is the goal of the burgeoning industry, especially when real money gets involved. It's extracting the various elements from common, easily mass grown hybrids and mixing the ingredients in a lab to make vape products.

Yea agreed on that level. But like you said it's going to have to be decriminalize federally because until then the banks are the roadblock.
Simply put -> as long as the weed industry does not have access to banks the big guys will stay away.

[Game Over]

IMO There will always be a flower market. But that's not saying that earl is not the future. It obviously is. Even now only the best flowers are kept. Everything else is processed. I think in the future that ratio will keep heading to the processed side.

[Bromontana]

Not really accurate, dispensaries in CO sell shake, prerolls, low, low-med, med, med - high, high, super high quality flower.

The tiered flower market is in place and ranges from ~$70-500/oz depending on what flower grade you buy and where.

Future is less impt to me than two key questions: where is the market now and how well can oil replicate flower effect?

I get fried on oil but the high is patently different. Generally sativa/indica waxes will stay true to the basic effect but there's a lot of nuance that's lost with errl from my experience. That's my point, is the market reacting to that delta in effect profile already?

There's an added benefit within flower that serious overuse can be mitigated easier w flower vs. errl. In the end it's just weed but it's not a good idea to dismiss what humans have used for 1,000s of years and put everyone on the equivalent of everclear.

[NoPostholio]

I'm not convinced on the terpene rematch.

I have found quite the opposite in a couple of specific strains where I have gotten consistent benefits and taste. Been on durbans bandwagon forever, and it has a real specific taste that in a well crafted concentrate can make it 11/10.
The real beauty of the plant will be the range of deliveries and corresponding benefits.
eta - but totally get how flower can do same taste/effect wise.

[Bromontana]

^good to hear. And yeah, that range is going to be interesting as the market matures. Ill try hard to buy from the good companys that resoect the good the whole plant can do vs. just extracting thc and ignoring the terps, etc.

[NoPostholio]

If I had consistent quality bud, I would spark it up more - esp in the BC.

Solventless rosins are also all the rage and might be the closest taste to bud - I hate to say it, but buttahflake called that out a year ago.

The convenience of the sizing makes it highly regarded for switching coasts

[Bobby Stainless]

I still prefer Live Resin over Rosin.

[buttahflake]

buttahflake is a wicked smart cat
send him product for testing
he knows what-up!

[jackstraw]

I still prefer Live Resin over Rosin.

Living in the nazi state, I have no idea about any of this stuff, but google informed me. Hoping for the two states, one to the North and one to the South, to make the historic change on the 8th.

Live resin is a butane hash oil (BHO) made from flash frozen fresh plants instead of dried plants. Live resin has the terpene profile and pungency of a plant fresh from the garden. ... Since no flammable solvents are used, rosin techniques are safer than BHO for home extraction of your medicine.

[stfu]

TBS - a few different gardens

avalanche
blackberry kush
dream kush
pineapple sherbet
pineapple purple skunk
black bullet
lemon og

[NoPostholio]

Source vape has two day sale with 50% off the CLEARANCE stuff. Some nice kits on the cheap, and bubbler w/4 coils for 10$!
Coupon code - HALLOWEED

Three bubbler styles 10$ - looks like it comes with a donut, dual quartz and dual ceramic coils.

https://www.sourcevapes.com/collecti...ant=5692948163

Baker Bobs favorite device - 10$

https://www.sourcevapes.com/products...iant=686076675

[DasBlunt]

Tiered market is funny.......only in extracts and accessories for vaping extracts will the biggest money be made.

Alchemy.....the most fun you will have with a super critical distiller

[glademaster]

It sucks.

The draw isn't great, it doesn't heat the plant matter all that evenly and sometimes you get some combustion. Source makes great products for concentrates, but their dry herb stuff leaves a lot to be desired in my book, and my primary means of consumption is vaporizing flower.

[glademaster]

No, the other atomizers you get are a decent deal at that price, even if you use the dry herb one once and decide it stinks. I would say go for it, but don't have high expectations.

[Bobby Stainless]

The dry herb atomizers do suck.

There really is no good substitution for a PAX imo. I don't vape weed anymore though.

My favorite Source pieces are the big battery Nail and Orb XL. The nail throws a real dab. The orb xl can give choking, cloudy hits and hold a gram.