Most over rated "classics"

[Beaver]

Led Zepplin - Stairway to heaven

[glademaster]

I couldn't agree more Beaver. Not a Zepp fan at all here, Plant's voice is whiny as hell and he screams too damn much for me.

"Hotel California" is way overrated too, IMHO.

[The Reverend Floater]

Led Zepplin - Stairway to heaven

I just lost sooooo much respect for you, Beav. Listen and watch some live versions...Jimmy's guitar is reason enough that this is one of the best songs of all time. Try not to flash back to middle school titty grabbing and try to concentrate on the brilliance of the writing...it's genius.

[tuffy109]

zeppelin has so many songs that kick that song's ass.

[Plakespear]

Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album. Hell, Fleetwood Mac in general.

[weibo]

The Eagles in general. They are very annoying

[Ubersheist]

The Eagles in general. They are very annoying

I gotta disagree, although I'm not a fan of thiers. I highly respect them. Whether or not you like them, you must agree that they are all phenomenal musicians of the highest caliber.

Overated like hell ----> Van Morrison and the Doors. I can't stand any of thier songs. Van Morrison's voice is terrible. The Doors would probably have faded away the same way that The Animals or The Yardbirds did (both of which were far better bands) if Morrison hadn't died. Way overrated. And Plake's right. Fleetwood Mac are overrated, too.

However, it's just music. Everyone's got a musical opinion just like everyone's got a... well... you know...

[Woodsy]

Overated like hell ----> Van Morrison Van Morrison's voice is terrible.

However, it's just music. Everyone's got a musical opinion just like everyone's got a... well... you know...

VanM goes beyond opinion.
Van Morrison is a fucking genius & you just judge him too much on the few approachable songs you have heard on your local classic rock station.
The material he recorde for Bang is horribly over produced & re released, brown eyed girl & spaish rose stuff.
His stuff since is amazing as was Them.

He is a masterfull lyricist & muscian and his songs have more references than a Joyce novel.

good luck finding a modern songwriter that does not list Van Morrison as an influence.


& btw Stairway is a really good song just extremely over played.

edit: for tone

[jimmy page]

I gotta agree with Woodsy. There is nothing wrong with Stairway. Don't confuse overrated with overplayed. That one song has probably changed more people's perception of what music is than any other. Remember back to the first time you heard that song. Did you think it was overrated then?

As far as Van Morrison goes, pick up a copy of Astral Weeks. It is in my opinion, his best work.

[Grange]

I think Beatle's "Hey Jude" is overrated. I like the Beatles music and don't this song, but the ending is monotonous longer than the rest of the song.

[Stu Gotz]

La La - Ashlee Simpson

[AfroMullet]

Agreed, Woodsy. Don't blur the line between overrated and overplayed. If you want overrated, look no further than 95% of popular modern music. Also, Nirvana really did nothing new, and it's the same case as the Door's; they wouldn't have been half as big as they are had Cobain not died.

[Spats]

Note: Individual songs only.

Bob Seger - "Turn The Page". You don't get to complain about how horrible it is being a rock star. Shut the fuck up.

Eric Clapton - "Layla". A riff that should be used once in a solo, stretched out to an entire song.

The Troggs - "Wild Thing". It's like seeing the Flintstones' car on I-5, going 12 MPH on the shoulder with hazards on. Not bad in caveman times, but now it's just embarrassing.

The Doors - "Light My Fire". Morrison ran out of ideas and got fat. I do have to give props to Ray Manzarek here for not letting anyone use Doors tunes in commercials. Thank you, Ray.

[PlayHarder]

Also, Nirvana really did nothing new

Ummm, are you not old enough to remember the music of the late eighties and what happened after Nevermind was released? Granted, there were better bands around at the time, but Nirvana's contribution to music can't be dismissed that easily.
I have trouble coming up an over-rated classic, like Woodsy and Afromullet I think overplayed more than over-rated.

[Spats]

Also, Nirvana really did nothing new

As a musician, I can say that Nirvana wrote some genius songs. The chord progressions frequently are very strange, yet they make them sound completely normal and right.

[tuffy109]

they wouldn't have been half as big as they are had Cobain not died.

you're kidding me.

[Plakespear]

Also, Nirvana really did nothing new

Neither did Elvis.

But, like Elvis, Nirvana took something that was sort of on the fringe of the mainstream, did it better than their contemporaries, and changed the course of music in the process. I was listening to Nevermind today, for the first time in a long time. It's a brilliant piece of pop music (like most good punk rock is).
Edit: read this thread before any more Nirvana Bashing)

I think a lot of people overemphasize technical musicianship over songcrafting. But remember- Yngwie Malmsteen MIGHT be the world's greatest living guitarist, but his music still sucks. Mike Ness could do more with three chords than Yngwie could ever dream of.

[AfroMullet]

Ummm, are you not old enough to remember the music of the late eighties and what happened after Nevermind was released? Granted, there were better bands around at the time, but Nirvana's contribution to music can't be dismissed that easily.

Nirvana, Nevermind: 1991

Soundgarden, Ultramega OK: 1988

I'm saying from a musical standpoint, I don't think Nirvana was as revolutionary in the grunge scene as they are made out to have been. They were, however, revolutionary in the greater public's eye like no other at that time-period. They turned opinion to different styles of real music.

My point with Soundgarden is that they influenced a lot of Nirvana's sound, they formed before Nirvana, and they also had a succesful album before Nirvana.

I can see where you're coming from with thinking my opinion is ludicrous, but it is just my opinion, and I respect your opinon as well.

[AfroMullet]

I think a lot of people overemphasize technical musicianship over songcrafting. But remember- Yngwie Malmsteen MIGHT be the world's greatest living guitarist, but his music still sucks. Mike Ness could do more with three chords than Yngwie could ever dream of.

Point well taken. I actually meant to say that as an innovator, Nirvana was not the epitome of grunge. They were amazing, and I am not doubting that, and I know they influenced the public's view of grunge and heavier stuff a lot more than many other bands, but it remains that many think they were the first grunge band around. Maybe that's what I've been trying to say through all the rambling. They were not the first. Whew. I will shut up now.

[AfroMullet]

Mike Ness could do more with three chords than Yngwie could ever dream

Hoo-ray to that. Social D rocks my socks off.

[marshalolson]

The Doors - "Light My Fire". Morrison ran out of ideas and got fat. .

um, dude, this is one of the first songs the doors ever recorded.

[interloper]

January 1967

1 - Break On Through (To The Other Side)
2 - Soul Kitchen
3 - Crystal Ships
4 - Twentieth Century Fox
5 - Alabama Song (Whisky Bar) (RealG2)
6 - Light My Fire
7 - Back Door Man
8 - I Looked At You
9 - End Of The Night
10 - Take It As It Comes
11 - The End

[Jumper Bones]

anything by the Cure, or the Clash.

how could any self-respecting male ever release pussy-ass limmerics like that? Be a man, fuck.

[doofdoof]

zeppelin has so many songs that kick that song's ass.

Gotta agree with this

[doofdoof]

Also, Nirvana really did nothing new, and it's the same case as the Door's; they wouldn't have been half as big as they are had Cobain not died.

Nirvana were MUCH bigger before Cobain died than after. This was not a case of death making the phenomenon.