190 Jak vs. 188 BroModel for b/c?

[Dr. Crash]

Just sell the fatties and get some true Euro ski mountaineering planks (from 65 to 75 waist, and those 75 are real wide)

drC

[verbier61]

Just sell the fatties and get some true Euro ski mountaineering planks (from 65 to 75 waist, and those 75 are real wide)

drC

NO WAY
SHUT UP
BUZZ OFF....

FAT IS COOL

[Lurch]

How does the soft bro model weight compare to the lighter Jak BC?

[Yossarian]

188cm Bros: just over 4 lbs per ski (so, let's say 4lbs 1oz)
180cm Jak: 4 lbs 7oz per ski
180cm Jak BC: 4lbs 1oz

all according to manufacturer's websites.

So, 188cm Bros vs. 190cm Jaks = difference of more than a pound per pair.
188cm Bros vs. 190cm Jak BCs = difference of a few ounces per pair.

[meatdrink9]

Sounds like our quivers are getting into similar terrain. I've got both skis (jak 190 and soft bros in my possession if you want to fondle, and weigh, and whatnot).

[ak_powder_monkey]

I'd use Jaks for AT mostly because they are tele skis, and my buddies look as if they are about to delam after 2 seasons inbounds. But both skis are so damn sexy..

[verbier61]

I'd use Jaks for AT mostly because they are tele skis, and my buddies look as if they are about to delam after 2 seasons inbounds. But both skis are so damn sexy..

huh.... they're not only sexy (actually the all-orange jak tip is all but sexy...), they're sweet. I admit to have a penchant for soft skis, but I LOVE my jaks and BROs. They're different, and make a perfect pair: jaks for relax days, BROs for muscle days

[KANUTTEN]

The Jak's and the Bros are too similar to defend having both pairs. Put the freerides on the Bros, and they will be great (if the reviews are to be believed) both inbounds and BC. In my opinion you gain a lot by skiing the skis you are used to all the time even though ideally it is possible that the Jaks might be better in some conditions. To put freerides on the heavyest skis is just beyong any logic.

[verbier61]

The Jak's and the Bros are too similar to defend having both pairs. Put the freerides on the Bros, and they will be great (if the reviews are to be believed) both inbounds and BC. In my opinion you gain a lot by skiing the skis you are used to all the time even though ideally it is possible that the Jaks might be better in some conditions. To put freerides on the heavyest skis is just beyong any logic.

no!
first, they're similar in size, not in the way they ski. They ski different, and, although I second your opinion that you gain by deep knowledge of ONE ski, you're not the same everyday...... at my ancient age, I have different potential on different days.... I can not ski fast EVERYDAY, for instance.
second... c'mon, dude, everyone knows jaks were at 199, so how much can you make out of it?

[KANUTTEN]

no!
first, they're similar in size, not in the way they ski. They ski different, and, although I second your opinion that you gain by deep knowledge of ONE ski, you're not the same everyday...... at my ancient age, I have different potential on different days.... I can not ski fast EVERYDAY, for instance.
second... c'mon, dude, everyone knows jaks were at 199, so how much can you make out of it?

Basically, it seems as if the Bros would be my preferred skis both inbounds and BC. I wouldn't put freerides on the Jaks when they are heavier then the Bros. And I would probably prefer prefer bros on the slopes as well. Conclusion; the Jaks are obsolete!

Too bad conditions to go skiing in the alps eh?

[splat]

We've done a batch of Bros with aspen cores, as opposed to the fir we've been using (better wood, more durable, no knots). They are differentiated with black sidewalls. The stiff is somewhat stiffer and approximately 5-6 ounces heavier per ski. The increase in weight is due, I believe, to the aspen soaking up more resin. This might upset some people, but the ski should actually have a much longer life and the more resin in a ski, the tougher it is, the longer it keeps camber, and the less likely it is to break. The weight difference is more noticeable in the stiffs than the softs.

I'll be waiting for reviews from those who have gotten them...

[PulverSchwein]

In retrospect, it sounds like the soft Bros would fit the bill perfectly for what I want in an AT ski. But of course, I have the stiff Bros coming (which fits my alpine preferences better).

So, perhaps the play is as follows: mount the stiff Bros with Looks this year, hope that the AK Enemies get me through the year, and consider soft Bros for AT next year. Keep the Jaks in case I need them, and sell them if I don't.

Eh, we'll see. Anyway, thanks for reading my brain dribble.

That sounds like a solid plan yos! No real downside there.

[bad_roo]

Psssst. I bet you could sell those Jaks for at least $295.

If they don't like the game they don't need to play.

[splat]

Don't discount those stiffs to double as both an inbounds and b/c ski, Yos. I have my blemmed stiffs mounted with freerides, which are fine inbounds for me, and will use them b/c without a second thought.