Sunshine Posts

**Shadam** · 11-22-2012, 08:39 PM

Ok so how many of the mang"s have ranted about SSV and this "issue"
are friends with X patrolers, or friends of friends ...
and yet still ski there ???

I can think of a few ...

L7 · 11-22-2012, 08:51 PM

Where's biglines?

**Eldo** · 11-22-2012, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by Shadam

Ok so how many of the mang"s have ranted about SSV and this "issue"
are friends with X patrolers, or friends of friends ...
and yet still ski there ???

I can think of a few ...

Yeah, kind of weird, huh?

**TOLOCOMan** · 11-22-2012, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Shadam

Ok so how many of the mang"s have ranted about SSV and this "issue"
are friends with X patrolers, or friends of friends ...
and yet still ski there ???

I can think of a few ...

Not all of us...

**iscariot** · 11-22-2012, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by TOLOCOMan

Not all of us...

This....

**TeCeBe** · 11-22-2012, 10:43 PM

I wonder what Greg has to say about AZ making the list.

**f2f** · 11-22-2012, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Eldo

Yeah, kind of weird, huh?

"no friends on powder day" and other such crap. i swear, the hill is more stressful than working downtown on a good snow day

**stuckathuntermtn** · 11-22-2012, 11:15 PM

Greg is playing in the Majors now, yo.

Sent from my DROID2

**powdork** · 11-23-2012, 03:46 AM

did the owners ever pay separation packages to the terminated employees? that's required in canada for employees of their tenure, right?

**Poz** · 11-23-2012, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by LeeLau

From http://ramzee.net/Files/SSVStatementOfClaim.pdf

Here's the Statement of Claim where SSV sues various people ....

I spat coffee on my computer when I read Scoobie Doo was named.

**k2skier112** · 11-23-2012, 09:42 PM

Anyone from Canada have any info input on this? Does Scooby Doo post here?

**skiitsbetter** · 11-23-2012, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by k2skier112

Anyone from Canada have any info input on this? Does Scooby Doo post here?

woah k2skier112, good thing you have the '112' after your username or else you would be a defendant too!

**That was Pontus** · 11-23-2012, 10:04 PM

Heh, anyone else get that? TGR.... j

**That was Pontus** · 11-23-2012, 10:11 PM

Also, for the record. Don't know any of the defendants, Chevalier to Scoobie Doo, nor have they spread any sort of dissemination about Sunshine or the Scurfield family to me. I formed my own opinion that the Scurfield family and the management of Scumshine are bunch of complete fuckwits who are out of touch with employees, the ski community, their customers and Canada in general. They are completely undeserving and unqualified to be operating a ski area of such prestige in my national park. Boot 'em.

L7 · 11-23-2012, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by powdork

did the owners ever pay separation packages to the terminated employees? that's required in canada for employees of their tenure, right?

I'm guessing they paid the packages as they have to but maybe not for 'dismissal with cause'. I don't think this rated as 'with cause'. That still leaves the door open for 'wrongful dismissal as separation with a package doesn't change that.

L7 · 11-23-2012, 11:51 PM

I know chevy and rowan and to be honest don't owe them any favours dating back to when my pass was briefly suspended and I started a semi boycott against Sunshine. (20+years) The pass was reinstated by a letter to the now retired GM who I knew a great deal better than Chevy or Rowan or the rest.

That being said what was done was wrong and I haven't spent a cent there since and don't see doing so. I'm amazed by those that would count chevy and others as 'friends' and still are big supporters of Sunshine. The Dive has seen it's earliest opening ever with a very low reported base and questionable experience and decision making (whose input) with their avalanche forecasters. I'm not going to and will not hurry to ski that shit thank you very much.

Don't even start me on how Ralph Sr died and the ensuing lawsuit there. As far as I'm concerned that family carries tons of shame a couple of generations back already.

I'm pretty sure Nuwest (Scurfield) bought control of Conoco Oil at one point before it all went horribly wrong the first time. Just like to see it go horribly wrong again and soon.

**waxman** · 11-23-2012, 11:58 PM

exactly L7...never liked the place, haven't been there since Fred left and this whole shitshow only confirms my thoughts...

**Harry** · 11-28-2012, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Sushibomb

So I don't get sued, I'll be cryptic:

A junior family member related to a ski hill just outside Banff may or may not have a social media account that rhymes with glitter. Read through some of the tweets and you'll get a good sense of what a douchenozzle you're dealing with. Hope that daddy's proud!

"Connoisseur of life's finer things. Money, Women, Sports. International party guy with a passion in the energy and finance sectors."

What a spoiled little punk.

**jamesp** · 11-28-2012, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by L7

That being said what was done was wrong and I haven't spent a cent there since and don't see doing so. I'm amazed by those that would count chevy and others as 'friends' and still are big supporters of Sunshine. The Dive has seen it's earliest opening ever with a very low reported base and questionable experience and decision making (whose input) with their avalanche forecasters. I'm not going to and will not hurry to ski that shit thank you very much. \

You are entitled to your opinion & decision not to spend cash there. Your view of the scurfields is shared by many, & its blatantly obvious that this whole thing was handled by SSV incredibly badly....

BUUUUT IMHO its a big call questioning the current snow safety crew's judgement AND comparing it to chevy/rowan's in the same sentence. Do you remember when the patroller was swept the length of Silver City & almost killed a few years back? I remember skiing the Dive a few years ago with a 2m crown the width of Sugar Bowl, & I also remember at least 1 skier triggered slide in the open Galaxy Chutes. Who's watch was that under?

**Lamothe** · 11-28-2012, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by jamesp

You are entitled to your opinion & decision not to spend cash there. Your view of the scurfields is shared by many, & its blatantly obvious that this whole thing was handled by SSV incredibly badly....

BUUUUT IMHO its a big call questioning the current snow safety crew's judgement AND comparing it to chevy/rowan's in the same sentence. Do you remember when the patroller was swept the length of Silver City & almost killed a few years back? I remember skiing the Dive a few years ago with a 2m crown the width of Sugar Bowl, & I also remember at least 1 skier triggered slide in the open Galaxy Chutes. Who's watch was that under?

Not sure i really agree with this. I watched a skier trigger slide last week in the dive. We carry avy gear for a reason and in the avy game there there is no guaranteeing stability at 100%. bellow the belt with that one i think .

**Spooky** · 11-28-2012, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by L7

The Dive has seen it's earliest opening ever with a very low reported base and questionable experience and decision making (whose input) with their avalanche forecasters. I'm not going to and will not hurry to ski that shit thank you very much.

If you're not skiing it then you should withhold ill-informed speculation and ignorant insinuations. Irrespective of the shitshow caused by the Scurfields, the current snow safety and patrol crew have done an excellent job with the terrain in the past few seasons in very trying circumstances. Having seen it first hand I have absolutely no doubt about their competence and have no hesitation in trusting the terrain they open.

The reason the dive has just had one of its earliest ever openings is because it DOES have a great base in there right now - opening day looked more like mid season than November.

**jamesp** · 11-28-2012, 12:54 PM

I know avy gear is carried for a reason & that nothing is 100% etc... I guess my real point is I'm not convinced the current crew are any better or worse than the former crew...

**Ramsey** · 11-28-2012, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by jamesp

I guess my real point is I'm not convinced the current crew are any better or worse than the former crew...

Correct.... Different approach for sure, but who's to say better or worse.... I kinda like the new crew, doesn't mean I didn't like the old crew too....

I did not know any of the patrollers directly, I thought the whole handling of the affair was a mess, I post the documents as I like the idea of being informed and not just reading what Firby released to the media where he held an advertising account.... I still ski SSV.

I spent $670 on an earlybird pass and plan on spending under $30 all season on the odd hot chocolate when it's really cold.... Even on a 40-day season thats less than $18/day.... There ain't no profit being made from me.