Warren Miller is a moneygrubbing asshole

**powpowpowderwheels** · 11-10-2003, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by AntiSoCalSkier
Someone should get Mr Miller on here. You can name pretty much any ski industry icon, and someone here at least knows hoe to get in touch with them, yet for some reason no one seems to know Warren Miller. Maybe this would be a good project? (Although we'd probably have better luck getting him to show up on Powder instead of TGR).

Any takers? I have no connections.

Is huckasoreass in the house with an industry position?

**joshbu** · 11-11-2003, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by Dexter Rutecki
And Stein is a much bigger celebrity with his clientele, and Kreitler is a much bigger celebrity with the TGR crowd. Now you've qualified what you said to make it meaningless.

No, the entrie argument is happening in the context of WM fans. That's where he was charging $8 for autographs. Thats' where the show is. Context does not make the argument meaningless, it IS the argument. That's the point you seem to be missing.

If WM had tried to charge $8 for autographs in Oslo or at a TGR showing, then your agruments would hold, but since he didn't, they don't.

**Dexter Rutecki** · 11-11-2003, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by joshbu
Well, I will put it out there that WM is a far bigger celebrity than Kent Kreitler or Stien Erikson. If you asked John Q to name some skiers, Warren is going to be way up there on the list (probably right after not being able to name anyone...)

The bigger you get, the less you can really connect with your fans. Just the way it goes.

Or maybe he's a moneygrubbing a-hole. Hell if I know.

If you hadn't initially said this, then you'd still be right. But this is how you put it, so you're not.
Obviously WM is a bigger celebrity among WM fans, but as I said, the qualification you include doesn't make this a very meaningful statement.

**joshbu** · 11-12-2003, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Dexter Rutecki
If you hadn't initially said this, then you'd still be right. But this is how you put it, so you're not.
Obviously WM is a bigger celebrity among WM fans, but as I said, the qualification you include doesn't make this a very meaningful statement.

I see. Now we've entered into a circular agrument with nary a shred of real evidence between us. Gotta love the internet...

**W.Miller** · 11-12-2003, 04:32 PM

I'd like to apologize to anyone I've offended. At my age, its hard to keep up with the fan base and signing posters while on tour is a hard task. I do really appreciate all of you who've supported us the throughout the years. Way back when, when I was doing live performances/narrations, I promised myself that I would never lose touch or be out of reach of my fans...no matter how famous I became. Reading your posts really made me realize that I'm getting too old to tour and that my burn out is effecting my fans in ways I would never want. I think TGR does a fantastic job making movies and being loyal to the sport...its time I retire.
God bless you all and thank you for allowing me to entertain you all these years- W.M.

**stompinlines** · 11-12-2003, 04:43 PM

I accept your apology Mr. Miller. You created much stoke at a young age. Thank you.

**fez** · 11-12-2003, 04:51 PM

The amazing thing about the internet is that while you can be 99% sure thats just one of the gang posing as Warren Miller, you still have that little bit of doubt that it could be him.

Only ONS and Warren can know for sure.

**Benny Profane** · 11-12-2003, 05:01 PM

Hmmmm.......somebody older than me.

**Schmear** · 11-12-2003, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by W.Miller
Reading your posts really made me realize that I'm getting too old to tour and that my burn out is effecting my fans in ways I would never want. I think TGR does a fantastic job making movies and being loyal to the sport...its time I retire.

Something tells me the real Warren Miller wouldn't be so forthcoming about important decisions like these with a bunch of internet strangers...

But....

If that's really you, Mr. Miller, please know that deep down most of us are fans, and if we could find a way to make it work financially, to live to ski and entertain our whole lives, as you did, we'd do it in a heartbeat. Cheers.