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    Avy Book suggestions

    I am just starting to get into backcountry skiing and would like a good resource to read over the summer to prepare for next season. Any suggestions.

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    http://www.amazon.com/Staying-Alive-...1285054&sr=8-1

    I'd highly recommend Tremper. I found it very useful when getting started. Explanations are great and easy to understand.
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    Snow Sense is a great book to start out with. Good info but small enough you can read it cover to cover two or three times to really absorb some knowledge. Then you can graduate to Trempers book with the knowledge to not be overwhelmed by the vast amount of intricate detail in the book as well as knowing what sections you should focus on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Mad View Post
    Snow Sense is a great book to start out with. Good info but small enough you can read it cover to cover two or three times to really absorb some knowledge. Then you can graduate to Trempers book with the knowledge to not be overwhelmed by the vast amount of intricate detail in the book as well as knowing what sections you should focus on.

    Happy learning.
    Thanks. I just got a copy of Tremper's book; but I'll have to check out Snow Sense as well.

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    ^^^^^ I would recommend getting into (and understanding) Tremper's book (Staying Alive in Avalanche Terrain) before reading The Avalanche Handbook. That is much more indepth and geared towards Level 2 courses, etc... (although it is also a great book, and frankly the "Bible" for avalanche reading). I just think Tremper presents the first level of info better towards a new student.

    Also, if you do pick up The Avalanche Handbook, I would not purchase the one schindlerpiste linked to (although I am sure he just googled for the name and linked and was not intended to recommend this actual one). That linked version is a very old editition and I am sure many of the information has changed.

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    Stolen from Jonathan S's course guide:

    http://avycourse.blogspot.com/2010/0...resources.html

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    ^^ I agree. As a BC jong myself, but way overeducated in the sciences... Tremper's book is an excellent and easy read whereas the Avalanche Handbook reads like a textbook and requires the reader to have a fair amount of science background or googling skills to fully understand. IMO.

    I took an AST LEvel I course up in Canadia. The CAA coursebook is a concise overview of the basics. I would recommend taking a course. Nothing beats hands-on learning from those in the know and the opportunity to ask them questions in person. The book reading is much more meaningful for me now post course.

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    I've read most of the avy books out there, and I think that Tremper's book is by far the best.

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    Staying Alive in Avalanche Terrain!! All you need to know. Read it cover to cover a couple times.

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    Bump for a topic I was looking at today and I imagine others are starting to think about this time of year.

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    There are a lot of good recommendations here. But, the one book that can save you years of learning the hard way in the field is Secrets of the Snow: Visual Clues to Avalanche and Ski Conditions, by Edward R. LaChapelle (published by Gray Stone Books).
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    I always read Staying Alive in Avalanche Terrain at the beginning of every season and come back to it time after time every season. Definitely my number one when it comes to books.

    If anything, honest to goodness, the best way to go about it is simply get the books on this page and take the quiz - http://avycourse.blogspot.com/2010/0...re-course.html
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    I've read Snow Sense (fredston, fesler) and Backcountry Avalanche Awareness(Jamiensen).

    Just comparing these 2 books, Backcountry Avalanche Awareness was better.
    Snow Sense was poorly written (style, language choice, structure), overly pessimistic.

    I have a science, engineering, and reliability background. My interest in reading these books was personal back country recreational skiing - not leading uneducated, teaching, or commercial.

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    Just bought the Tremper book, Staying alive in Avalanche Terrain, and it's really good. Well written and pretty easy to understand. Got the backcountry bug this summer and I wanted to look more into Avalanche safety...so glad I found this thread. I'd suggest buying the Tremper book though, it's cheap and good.

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    Definitely agree with the Tremper book - what's really important is that he gets into HUMAN FACTORS, that some of the other more "science-y" books tend to skip or glaze over.

    Group dynamics, routefinding, confirmation bias, etc are all things that digging a snow pit or looking at crystals won't help you with.

    Here's a big pile of books, several of which have already been mentioned in this thread (and elsewhere like the BC JONG thread)... http://www.nwac.us/education/books/

    If you're not the easily frightened type, I personally like reading through the "Avalanche Accidents" books - I can't remember the exact title or author, but I know the Anchorage library has 'em. They basically cover a wide variety of "what went wrong" with some pictures/maps/etc that let you learn from mistakes others have made, and unfortunately, sometimes had tragic ends. I think it's useful to see how common some mistakes are and to see how "easy" some of the problems are to overlook.

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    my .02

    level one - snow sense
    level two - staying alive in avalanche terrain
    level three - the avalanche handbook

    i would also echo halstead's sentiments regarding Secrets of the Snow

    for additional reading many ISSW proceedings are available online as is the AAA publication The Avalanche Review. also The Snowy Torrents and Avalanche Accidents in Canada for some sobering reality checks.

    ps download this (McCammonHTraps PDF) and read it before every season then again part way through. there has been lots of additional commentary on this subject since the paper was first published that you will easily find with a google search

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...9Fjzzw&cad=rja
    Last edited by covert; 09-29-2011 at 03:13 AM. Reason: added ps

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    I thought snow sense was an excellent book for someone interested in the basics of taking care of themselves in avalanche terrain. The decision-making framework in that book is quite easy to remember and remains sound after many years.

    It's a bit painful to see the The Avalanche Handbook on the shelves at REI. The volume is a fantastic resource, but is not very approachable for the skier who just wants to go bc touring and learn the basics of avalanche safety.

    McCammon's work on heuristics is an excellent refresher every year. Particularly the section on level of avalanche education vs accident rates

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    I think a lot of people would do bertter with Staying Alive as their Level 1 book. There's more in it than a Level I student needs, but that leaves them room to grow and it isn't texbookish. Snow Sense is the perfect Introduction or Awareness book. YMMV!
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    I think a lot of people would do bertter with Staying Alive as their Level 1 book.
    If you are at all technical in job or schooling I'd agree wholeheartedly. Snow Sense is worthless imo.

    Snowy Torrents are kinda pointless now unless V5 comes out; Avalanche Accidents in Canada volumes 1 through 4 are available via PDF for free:
    http://www.avalanche.ca/caa/publicat...nche-accidents
    some other interesting paper there, as well as at Backcountry Access"
    http://backcountryaccess.com/index.php?id=84

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    Even just the avy chapter in the Volken ski touring book is way better than Snow Sense.
    (I require Snow Sense for my courses only b/c NSP says I'm officially supposed to.)
    I already posted this earlier in thread, but I'll repeat it here since so much else is being repeated:
    http://avycourse.blogspot.com/2010/0...re-course.html
    http://avycourse.blogspot.com/2010/0...resources.html
    Apologies in advance is the second link takes you to lots of broken links, but I'd certainly appreciated having them pointed out (as well as suggestions to worthy additions).

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