Carbon dork

[Lev]

If it's the high volume can I highly recommend the Fox shim kit.

I know you recommend doing that, but it kind of makes me roll my eyes at this point. I feel like a $2500 frame shouldn't have to be modded to make it feel buttery. I probably won't jump to do this, but i suppose it could be a future upgrade.

If I had a bike as pretty and expensive as the ibis, I would skip the angleset alltogether and go with a works components 1 degree slacker headset. They come in all the right fits (tapered headtube with tapered fork, and all you need is a different crown race for tapered ht with non tapered fork) and are fixed, so you don't have to worry about the creaking popping and grinding the angleset makes. I would also look into offset shock reducers, probably the cheapest way to see if slack is the way to go for you.

I disagree that the angleset mucks up the frame. I don't have personal experience yet, but it sounds like people are figuring it out. I'll report back about the clank, but according to the guy I'm buying from (shop owner/mechanic), his had no clanking whatsoever. Installation issue? Maybe. Overcomable? Ya, probably.

Worst case scenario, I'll sell the barely used angleset and buy a cane creek 110. Hopefully it won't be an issue.

[Phall]

Mine, Phase 1 completion

LG Hd, xt build, Renthal bars and sprocket, Stock besides those two things as of now, more to come.

[phatfreeheeler]

I know you recommend doing that, but it kind of makes me roll my eyes at this point. I feel like a $2500 frame shouldn't have to be modded to make it feel buttery. I probably won't jump to do this, but i suppose it could be a future upgrade

I feel the same way. The only thought I had is that they had to switch to the latest Fox Kashima coated shocks due to Fox only shipping those and maybe they just behave different then past RP23's. Ibis is a small company, and small companies miss details like this. Some have told me that before the switch they were LV cans. All I can say is that I started very disappointed and now find it to be very refined. Others who have ridden the bike have agreed.

[robnow]

The Mojo HD has always come with the HV can. Pretty simple and cheap mod really, what $25 for the volume reducers or do like Kidwoo and throw grease in there.

If I keep my bike for next season i'll be trying the Works 1 degree out. 300hp, school me please on the differences between changing angles via headset vs. offset bushings.

[sushilrai]

really it is appreciable pics of bicycle .....................it is looking so comfortable on of ride...

[phatfreeheeler]

To use offset bushings you would need extra tire clearance at the seattube. The HD doesn't really have any unless you run XC race tires. The lower link might contact the front triangle too.

[JeffreyJim]

FWIW, I feel plenty of people out there prefer the feel of a HV can to LV can (not just on the Mojo).

Just saying there is a level of "personal preference" Ibis cannot be held accountable for IMO.

[robnow]

To use offset bushings you would need extra tire clearance at the seattube. The HD doesn't really have any unless you run XC race tires. The lower link might contact the front triangle too.

This is what I was picturing in my head so was wondering how realistic it was. As it is my Hans Dampf on the rear hits the seat tube on bottom out. Thanks for the clarification.

[Lev]

Mine, Phase 1 completion

LG Hd, xt build, Renthal bars and sprocket, Stock besides those two things as of now, more to come.

Love the Renthal stuff. Gonna need more visual confirmation

[scrublover]

I know you recommend doing that, but it kind of makes me roll my eyes at this point. I feel like a $2500 frame shouldn't have to be modded to make it feel buttery. I probably won't jump to do this, but i suppose it could be a future upgrade.



I disagree that the angleset mucks up the frame. I don't have personal experience yet, but it sounds like people are figuring it out. I'll report back about the clank, but according to the guy I'm buying from (shop owner/mechanic), his had no clanking whatsoever. Installation issue? Maybe. Overcomable? Ya, probably.

Worst case scenario, I'll sell the barely used angleset and buy a cane creek 110. Hopefully it won't be an issue.

If the Angleset doesn't work, and you want slacker... Get the Works Components for sure. The one I stuck in the Reign-X is my second on (one in the prior Devinci Frantik as well) and both have been totally problem free. Easy to install so long as you're not a complete hack mechanic, or too drunk. No noises, nothing really to go wrong with the system at all. The only downside is not being able to further adjust it without other cups.

The RX with the 180mm fork and the -1* cupset is 14" BB height and a hair over 65* HTA. Does really, really well.

[Lev]

If the Angleset doesn't work, and you want slacker... Get the Works Components for sure. The one I stuck in the Reign-X is my second on (one in the prior Devinci Frantik as well) and both have been totally problem free. Easy to install so long as you're not a complete hack mechanic, or too drunk. No noises, nothing really to go wrong with the system at all. The only downside is not being able to further adjust it without other cups.

The RX with the 180mm fork and the -1* cupset is 14" BB height and a hair over 65* HTA. Does really, really well.

Sounds good man. The only reason I went with the angleset is because I bought a used frame and it already had it installed. People seem to like the slacker feeling, so I said let's do it. Right now I'm wanting to try the HD in its natural geometry without modification. I think the charm of the angleset is that you get to have the option of changing the feel of the bike, which is something I could see myself doing for Moab days, lift access riding, or general gnar. Since this is my one bike quiver, I don't plan to use it slacked out all the time. That could change tho...

[bagtagley]

Lev, if you want to play with the volume on the shock, throw some big rubber bands or sheet ptex in there. It's easy as hell to get that outer can off, and there are no moving parts in there. I cut up the plastic cover to a CD-R spindle to take up the volume in a Monarch. Worked like a charm. If nothing else, it's a good way to play with the settings before you sport for the Fox shims.

[beaterdit]

I cut up an old water bottle for mine. Soft pliable plastic plus built in curve. Works great, cheap or free, and you can make several widths of shim from one water bottle. I use a 25mm wide shim on my Tracer, great mod. The HV can is nice because you CAN change the feel of the shock very easily with different width (volume) shims. It just adds another level of tunability over the low volume can. As far as I'm concerned it's just part of setting up your bike, choosing how progressive you want your spring rate to be.

[Lev]

Any threads out there with more info on taking apart the RP23? Pics? Benefits? Sounds like you guys are happy with it. Before PFH mentioned it, I hadn't really given much thought to doing it.

[Anospa]

Here you go.

[bagtagley]

Good info if you want to go the ghetto route.

forums.mtbr.com/turner/dw-5-spot-rp23-mod-503070.html

[joetron]

Any of you Mojo owners out there have weird headset noises and aren't running Anglesets? We've had a couple pass through the shop.

[robnow]

Read kidwoo's take here on the volume.

[phatfreeheeler]

With the Fox set of spacers only being $25, why go ghetto? Especially on a bike at this price tag

[Particle]

Any of you Mojo owners out there have weird headset noises and aren't running Anglesets? We've had a couple pass through the shop.

I struggled with that for a while (1-2 months) off the bat, finally got it sorted out and quiet. This was with a CK InSet. Just took a lot of loosening and re-tightening. For awhile my headset would loosen up almost every ride. Switched to a burlier stem (the stock one from Ibis sucks), which seemed to really help resolve the issue.

[300hp]

With the Fox set of spacers only being $25, why go ghetto? Especially on a bike at this price tag

I wouldn't really say that putting material in the HV can is ghetto. Rockshox sells inserts for the monarch HV cans that are just rubber shims. The neat thing about this method is just how much you can tweak, and how easily you can do it. Coming from working on a remedy, the HV shock plowing thru the travel issue was a big one. I recommend taking the HV can off and stuffing it with p tex sheet or the red make your own gasket rubber squares they have at every hardware store. While this will not give you the best ride, it will immediately show you the maximum effect that shimming the can can have, and give a very noticeable effect off the bat. I've found that it is faster to max out the can and back off the amount of material in it, than to work your way up. Also, there is no reason why one can't use a small spacer from the fox kit in the main can and fine tune with material in the HV can.

[Lev]

Here's a little teaser shot:



I'm so in love right now it's ridiculous. Rode yesterday for the first time and the bike went beyond my expectations. Super responsive. When I laid down the cranks, it went. I got out of the saddle and felt minimal bob. Rode up some steeps, rode down some steeps. Felt great. The bike just wanted to fly. I felt like I was riding one of these:



It felt as stiff as everyone has mentioned before, and it just plowed through everything I threw at it.

I left the angleset on there because it's all I had... and I won't be changing it The thing felt fuggin awesome. No gimmel knocks, no clicks, nada. Perfect geo

I'm about to head out for round two today. Heading into techier area. Will report back

[Lev]

Oh ya, and thanks for all the help and advice guys. This thread was great.

I ended up with the medium, and all I said to myself yesterday was: "I'm so glad I didn't go with the large." The size is perfect for a 5'10" dude

-Carbon Dorked

[Victor Eremita]

Any of you Mojo owners out there have weird headset noises and aren't running Anglesets? We've had a couple pass through the shop.

@Flowtron, sorry I realize this is slightly dated now. I have been having a persistent issue with headset noises on my HD (it is the original gen 1 frame). The first time was the obvious culprit, the [less than fantastic] Cane Creek headset seal went, and shortly thereafter, the bearings. So I replaced those, although I should have just ordered the King Inset, but those things are $$$.

Now I have another creak, and it the bearings appear to be fine.
I have been chasing this thing down for two months now, which is quite irritating.

Otherwise, I love the bike, but man, do I ever hate that creak.

[phatfreeheeler]

No creaks on mine yet. I really like the Cane Creak 110 HS I'm using. Word from those I trust is that it's every bit as good as a King, but it's not cheap either.