Snow for the Euros.

[beer30]

So the snow guns did their job. Lower mountain skiing suprisingly well. Good to get out and build up some leg for when the snow arrives and see the winter tribe. I also put a real aggressive Edge on my ski and am liking it!

[subtle plague]

Another question as this is my first time to 3 Vallees: do we need a touring setup?

Heh. No! it is the largest ski area in the world. Has decent freeride terrain as I've heard. Never been. Surprisingly under the radar as it somehow does not cater to the core crowd. Map glancing on my side a few years ago showed nice terrain, but i rarely got down that far in the last few years so I've never tested.

Just check the map on bergfex with inclination activated.

Nothing too scary. Nothing super huge. Mostly 200-500m vert. Shots of interesting terrain. Easy access.

They don't get as much snow as other places. Needs huge storms from the West. Can handle warmth. The upcoming christmas dump should be perfect for it.

https://youtu.be/sFgXu-sSxw8

[subtle plague]

Example

I assume thus is where parts of the video were shot. Because in may you'd want to be high. And north facing.

[subtle plague]

Here is how to activate the layers. And you can see most of the area.
So about 12-15km as the crow flies north to south length. And about 6- 8 wide.

So about 70 square kilometers of terrain. That's about a bazillion acres of skiable terrain.

No trees in val thorens if it dumps.

[Rossymcg]

Another question as this is my first time to 3 Vallees: do we need a touring setup?

It's huge, lifts going everywhere you wont need to tour. I've not been for a good few years but you'll figure it out easy enough. As for a guide Snoworks will be running something in Meribel that week. I've done guided groups with them in the past. Had some good skiing

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[subtle plague]

No snow in the forecast. Well at least we'll get some rain and base building above 2000m over christmas. In the West and south. But I don't think that will solve our weak layer problem.

So the second year of suckage in a row. Guess I'll become a stronger climber...

[Marius]

we skied on sunday some okay-ish snow with crusts inside on very Hansi Hinterseer meadows. found lots of alpenrosen and gave them a new sun exposure while turning. official bulletin said level 1, above 2000m 2. but it felt like 3. guess it was just not enough snow. looks like more skigaudi here.

[Gorilla]

Any recommendations for off-piste guides in 3 Vallees? I have a group of 3-4 that would like to spend a day or two with a guide who knows the off piste stashes of pow.

Based in Meribel, skiing from Jan 27-Feb 2.

Simon Christy who posts as offpisteskiing on Snowheads.com is well rated. Not skied with but sensible people speak highly of him.

No bad experiences with the local guides office.

Regarding route selection, obviously look at the avalanche forecast and take decisions accordingly.

Route wise, there are good ski from lift options with a hike (col de Fruit, vallon de Lou). All marked on fatmap. Lou in particular will hold cold powder for a long time after the last snowfall if you are willing to hike the ridgeline for a while.

Lot of good options from the top of la Masse down into the Lou valley and the vallon des Encombres. Also straight back down as well.

Touring wise, the Gebroulaz is nice. Good options down to Pralognan and also over the col de Borgne. Needs glacier gear. Caution re skiing in the nature reserve. Check the map carefully.

In bad weather the trees from Tougnete down towards Meribel offer good tree skiing.

All marked on fatmap. All are potentially dangerous in poor avalanche conditions and there is a serious risk of crevasse fall on the Gebroulaz route.

[sk8rat6587]

I'm going to be in Switzerland for new years with a couple days in Zermatt in January. How bad is it? Not worth trying to ski a day or two while I'm there?

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[subtle plague]

Off Piste? Very bad.
Groomers should be ok.

Christmas should see a dump in the nw above 2000m.....
that won't help Zermatt though.

[Rossymcg]

So the second year of suckage in a row. Guess I'll become a stronger climber...

yes I remember the warm wetter and rain coming in circa this time last year after a good dump. it fucked the lot up and was dry as a nuns minge for weeks after


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[sk8rat6587]

Off Piste? Very bad.
Groomers should be ok.

Christmas should see a dump in the nw above 2000m.....
that won't help Zermatt though.

Yeah this is what I feared. I guess I can at least get some groomer laps in with nice views.

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[yeahman]

Also, consider https://www.skierslodge.com/ for guiding in LG, you can call a day ahead and either join a group of get a private.

Have you ever stayed there? Looks pretty cool.

[Buster Highmen]

Have you ever stayed there? Looks pretty cool.

We stayed in LG for 3 weeks in 1996, but the "Skiers Lodge" at that time was a rickety old shack up in Ventelon above LG called La Chaumine. That's where Pelle Lang, the Swede who first got the town to run the telepherique in winter, was first working out of. Eventually, that scene got complicated, and Pelle hooked up with Ayse and together they bought an old hotel down in LG and refurbished it and put in a bar in the basement.
I've stayed in the new place a couple of times for a few days. It's gotten expensive and there's ways to finesse that and still get a guide through Pelle.
LG is a very special place.

[subtle plague]

yes I remember the warm wetter and rain coming in circa this time last year after a good dump. it fucked the lot up and was dry as a nuns minge for weeks after


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Last year it was new year and rain to 3000. At least it healed the snowpack. And we had had good mid December days before that. This year is worse.

[bobinch]

I'm going to be in Switzerland for new years with a couple days in Zermatt in January. How bad is it? Not worth trying to ski a day or two while I'm there?

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The top of Zermatt is very high so will fare better than most places in the current warm temps. New Year is still uncertain this far out. Some signs of another storm at the end of the month and temperatures hopefully coming down a bit so you could get lucky

[geo039]

Last year it was new year and rain to 3000. At least it healed the snowpack. And we had had good mid December days before that. This year is worse.

Skied twice this year and calling day one a powder day I usually get one a year so I am screwed Pouring here in GE with 11c temp. Météo Centrale calling for heavy “r” word up to 2300m. Headed to Dijon to eat and drink and hope when I get back Mr. Winterpants has retuned. Happy holidays to all the Euros! (Pic Cour of a friend two weeks back)

[subtle plague]

Yeah this is what I feared. I guess I can at least get some groomer laps in with nice views.

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The current storm is massive and pushed into Zermatt.
20-40cm so far.
Read my thoughts on
https://www.powderguide.com/magazin/...er-dusche.html
You'll need Google translate.

[geo039]

The current storm is massive and pushed into Zermatt.
20-40cm so far.
Read my thoughts on
https://www.powderguide.com/magazin/...er-dusche.html
You'll need Google translate.

Looks like it even pushed a little more north on SLF readings. At least above 2000m. Better than nothing.

[sk8rat6587]

The current storm is massive and pushed into Zermatt.
20-40cm so far.
Read my thoughts on
https://www.powderguide.com/magazin/...er-dusche.html
You'll need Google translate.

Getting my hopes a little higher

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[subtle plague]

Looks like it even pushed a little more north on SLF readings. At least above 2000m. Better than nothing.

Well north and West was supposed to get the most. Zermatt Was not certain.

Our week in O has been washed away [emoji47] closed today.
Hopefully the magic carpet area still has snow.

Well be in the hood 30th to 7th anyway.
Maybe touring the couloirs in val darpette.

There is not much in the forecast. Sone 10-20cm cosmetics on the 27th

[bobinch]

Not seen Mont Gelé plastered like this for a while. There’s going to be some wild skiing up high when the avi risk settles

[subtle plague]

Looks amazing. I've never seen that much snow in the alps.

[twat]

wepowder has the most snow in the alps

[bobinch]

Looks amazing. I've never seen that much snow in the alps.

🤣🤣🤣

We’ll have to go to the Bec [emoji6]