grooming powder???

**lax** · 12-09-2004, 10:05 PM

i understand grooming ice and skied off trails in the east...

but why in the hell do you groom powder???

"Skiers and riders are hitting the slopes left and right, and from what I hear, the 33 inches of snow we received from the storm is nice and groomed. "-mammoth

what
the
fuck

**hucksquaw** · 12-09-2004, 10:09 PM

1 more reason to not ski mammoth

**seldon** · 12-09-2004, 10:12 PM

north-fuck-star won't open till they've groomed the powder.

**Ski Beaver** · 12-09-2004, 10:12 PM

Beaver creek even grooms it during the day in case it builds up too much.

**iceman** · 12-09-2004, 10:14 PM

It's all about who pays the rent, you knew it before you posted, lax.

**lax** · 12-10-2004, 01:36 AM

yea deep down but i also sort of hoped it was a misprint

people are pussies

**Jumper Bones** · 12-10-2004, 01:42 AM

Or...

they could want to pack down the snow, to make a base and ensure their snow stays there long-term, despite wind events.

I've seen hills fail to do this early in the season, then a windstorm kicks up and takes all that powdurrrr away.

**summit** · 12-10-2004, 01:42 AM

"I hate all this powder! Why won't they groom it?" Some lady on the lift at Keystone after the March 2003 blizzard.

**Haus** · 12-10-2004, 01:58 AM

You've never been out west, right? They're grooming it for you. Easier transition.

Don't get your panties is a wad dude. Anything you will actually want to ski has been left untouched by machines, and there is a lot of it.

**lax** · 12-10-2004, 04:16 AM

if i travel out west to ski groomers i deserve to die

**72Twenty** · 12-10-2004, 09:44 AM

Yeah, it's just groomed for the paying-full-price tourist skiers. They do pay the bills. Hey, fresh groomers keep the intermediates happy and keep the ungroomed clearer for us. They don't groom the whole mountain...

**Keoni** · 12-10-2004, 09:50 AM

From the Mt. Bachelor thread:

Originally Posted by bdog

A large slab broke off the Moraine on the NE aspect. The crown fracture was in excess of 5 feet leaving not much more than an inch cover on the cinder surface. The slide just missed the lower terminal of the Summit chair, swept over the small ridgeline and into, yes, Avalanche run and down Marshmallow. The full path of the slide traveled over a quarter mile, filled in gullies, took out numerous large fir and left a debris field with piles 12 to 15 feet deep mixed with broken fir. The path went into the major green run area. If this event had occured when the area was open it would have been really bad. As it was it happened late Wednesday night or early Thursday morning.

**Haus** · 12-10-2004, 12:57 PM

Grooming Report - Updated: Dec 10, 2004
88 runs with a total of 904.7 acres groomed:

Mammoth Mountain East
Festival
Ginger Bread
School Yard
Ski School Eagle
Gretel
Hansel
Holiday
Little Bird
Lupin
Pumpkin
Round About
Round Robin
Sleepy Hollow
Bridges
Chickadee
Christmas Tree
Clover Leaf
Down Hill
Hully Gully
Spring Canyon
Swell
Water Tank
Way Home (wicked)
Juniper
Lower Viva
Redtail
Blue Jay
Lower Grizzly
One Chance
Mid-Mountain
Easy Rider
Lost in the Woods
Roller Coaster
Short Cut
Avalanche
Back for More
Coyote
Cross Walk
Gold Hill
Haven't the Foggiest
Quicksilver
Relief
Repeat 22
Solitude
Wall Street
Spook
Mammoth Mountain West
Sesame Street
Sesame Street West
Jill's Run
Lower Road Runner
Over Easy
St. Moritz
Bristle Cone
Broadway
Comin' Thru
Gremlins Gulch
Lodge Pole
Mambo
New Critters
Phantom's
Santiago
Secret Spot
Silver Tip
St. Anton
Stump Alley
Surprise
Upper Road Runner
White Bark Ridge
World Cup
Center Bowl
Ponderosa
Powder Bowl
Ralphy's
Saddle Bowl
Terry's Run
Cornice Bowl
Far West
Fascination
Patrolman's
Wall
Other
Ski School Canyon
Ski School Main
Milk Run
Tower 14 Cutoff
Gondola to Cornice
Gondola to Dave's
Gopher Trail
Old Comeback
Short Cak

The mountain spans 3500 acres. If you can't find the 2600 acres of ungroomed, then you can go ahead and die.

No need to develop an aneurism over it.

**yogachik** · 12-10-2004, 01:03 PM

great post, Haus.

lax - they only groom the groomed runs. Mammoth consists mostly of what's in between the groomed runs. If you are coming to Mammoth on Sunday expecting powder, think again, groomed or not groomed. By the time you read this, the powder is all skied out.

Anyway, it's in the 60s this weekend with no precipation in site until maybe friday. You'll have about a foot of wind on Thursday, though.

**tuffy109** · 12-10-2004, 01:04 PM

"sesame street to peter pan, and i'll meet you at the hansel and gretel graham cracker lodge"

**freshies** · 12-10-2004, 01:40 PM

dude, you don't get out west too often, do you.....mammy is fackin' huge, and while they groom a lot of main runs, it's the rest of the mountain off 23, etc (someone earlier did a nice job of breaking down chairs and terrain for you - read it) that you will want to ski (assuming you can ski that terain)....there is loads of ungroomed terrain, classic west coast/rockie mountain skiing, etc....so chill. enjoy the wind buff, mammy is famous for it...so schmoove....