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  1. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay
    As far as home runs go, I don't think the steroids have made much of a difference for bonds. In the last four years bonds OBP has risen dramatically, along with his slugging. Besides the one year when he had 73 home runs, bonds has hit between 35 and 45 homers a year since 1990 for the most part. The thing the steroids has done for Bonds is his ability to get on base more via walk because pitchers can't throw a ball over the plate to him unless they want it in the stands.
    It seem like you're kind of contradicting yourself here. As you say, pitchers won't pitch to him anymore because he hits everything out of the yard.

    Here are some stats for you:

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    Year    AB     HR    HR/AB
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    1986   413    16     25.8
    1990   519    33     15.7
    2000   480    49      9.8
    2001   476    73      6.5
    2004   373    45      8.3
    1986 was his first year, '90 was the first year he really hit for power.

    And, you're right, roids can't help you hit learn to hit a baseball, but I'd say Barry had that down already.

    EDIT: OK, maybe you're saying the roids haven't helped his total HR count (since he's walking so much now). I guess I'll agree with that. They have definitely helped his production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay
    As far as home runs go, I don't think the steroids have made much of a difference for bonds. In the last four years bonds OBP has risen dramatically, along with his slugging. Besides the one year when he had 73 home runs, bonds has hit between 35 and 45 homers a year since 1990 for the most part. The thing the steroids has done for Bonds is his ability to get on base more via walk because pitchers can't throw a ball over the plate to him unless they want it in the stands. He has been consitantly hitting home runs since 1990 and I am willing to bet that he wasn't on 'roids then. There has only been one year in his career when he has hit 50 or more home runs.

    I am in no way condoning steroids use in professional sports- I think it is wrong and gives some players an advantage. Anyone can do steroids, but they still won't be able to hit a lick. Bonds will break the home run record in 2 years and there is no reason his records should be tainted. If you look at his stats and his consistant home runs year in and year out, he would have broken the record anyway; it probably just would have taken one more year to do it.
    Roids (and HGH) have really helped his home run count. They have allowed him to add muscle mass and heal from injuries faster at an age when most people's bodies start to break down (35) and as a result I think he has 200+ HRs in his 36, 37, 38, and 39 yr. old system. The number is totally tainted and there's no getting around it...

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    I am a hugh sports fan. I love almost everything about sports. The compitition, the comraderie(sp), the outdoors (I hate domes), the athletics, and the atmosphere. I love pro sports as well as college. I root for all of my home town teams (and Pittsburgh). What am I talking about? The NHL has been canceled, MLBers are juiced to the hilt, and they accually cancelled the world series. But I don't care. Why? A couple years ago me and my brother-in-law were talking about yet another baseball strike/lockout/whatever. He said; "But what if they cancel baseball?" Thats when I realized, they can't cancel baseball. They can't do anything. What if the FIS went on strike? Could that cancel skiing? No. All this means is millionaires are fighting with other millionaires over millions of dollars. Bottom line I will continue to enjoy, just about, every sport in my own way and change chanels during commercials. And I dont have to be paid a billion to do so(although I would accept it).
    its the whisky talking

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