Utah/Byu Game this weekend.

[bigsugar]

*** I am sorry if the above post affected the way any of you feel about the Mormon church***

Hey Phatty

I was in Illinois about 7 years ago for my grandmothers funeral. We were staying at some generic hotel, I think it was a Comfort Inn. I was down at the indoor pool with my brother, just floating around and bumming out because, well, I liked my grandma.
Anyways , these two guys started talking to me, and somehow they managed to bring up religion. They asked if I was a Christian, and I told them I was raised Catholic but didn't really practice, blah blah blah.

Homey proceeds to pretty much order me to read the Book of Mormon and consider becoming LDS.

I think one of the guys name was Jim.

Do you know him?

And does that really work?

[Woodsy]

Hey Phatty

I was in Illinois about 7 years ago for my grandmothers funeral. We were staying at some generic hotel, I think it was a Comfort Inn. I was down at the indoor pool with my brother, just floating around and bumming out because, well, I liked my grandma.
Anyways , these two guys started talking to me, and somehow they managed to bring up religion. They asked if I was a Christian, and I told them I was raised Catholic but didn't really practice, blah blah blah.

Homey proceeds to pretty much order me to read the Book of Mormon and consider becoming LDS.

I think one of the guys name was Jim.

Do you know him?

And does that really work?

holy shit that was FROZEN WATER!!!

& slim, creampuffs my big white ass Texas A&M is a good team that barely lost to Oklahoma, we throttled em.
North Carolina beat Miami, they were never in the game.

Noone has even threatened us.....

I cant wait to see whomever gets left out of the "big game" vs UT

I dont see a team in the country we cannot beat.

[shit sandwich]

The religious differences definetely add heat to this rivalry. I live in Utah County, grew up in the oppressive Mormon-infested valley. It can be a tough place to live if you're not Mormon, for all the nice things Mormon's can do for others they sure can fuck it up for just as many. Needless to say I'm one of a few Ute fans down here! Funny though that in my occupation I deal with BYU on a daily basis, I often find it odd that most of them just assume that everyone's a Mormon, recently I was asked by one of my clients there what my "church calling" was, he seemed quite offended when I told him I wasn't Mormon. Ever wonder why the suicide rate is so fucking high in Utah? Why so many are on anti-depressants? Fortunately for myself I've found a super kick ass neighborhood, everyone's very acceptable of the fact that my wife and I aren't at all interested in their church and they're still nice to us! I hope the U kicks the fuck out of the Y!!! UTES, UTES, UTES!!!

[TheDingleberry]

Dingleberry,

Fitting name for a Ute fan . I was waiting for you to finally come back with some trash. The only thing Utah has going for it is that it is closer to good skiing (sorry Provo, but Sundance just ain't cutting it) and easy chicks. Wait, I guess those are pretty good things. But, anyways, I will admit that BYU football sucks this year. It has been tough the last few years, especially watching Utah playing far better than us. But it won't matter because your coach knows how bad Utah sucks and once he gets your girlfriend off him, he will be gone to Florida where there may not be good skiing, but there are lots more easy chicks (did i already mention your girlfriend )

*** I am sorry if the above post affected the way any of you feel about the Mormon church***

No offense taken everyone knows my girlfriends a whore.
But your lack of college football knowledge is comical.

Urban Meyer really is not even a contender for the Florida job. If he goes anywhere from here it will be to Notre Dame. He has said it before and will say it again.

The real contender for the Florida position is the same one that was 3 years ago before Zook was hired. This as you might not remember was Bob Stoops.
You see the 'ol ball coach and stoops are pretty good friends and Stoops makes his personal home in Gainsville. These two Jackals will surely be playing each other next season. Expect to hear an announcement from Florida in the next few weeks.

Funny how you won't let "Non-members" into your church unless they convert, but you'll let them play on your football team. Strange things happen in Provo. One day I'll tell you about the time I painted the Y red, the damn thing is huge.

[Lucifer]

I will be there partying with the Utah fans. After all Phatty there is nothing wrong with alcohol and having a good time. The real sinning is when you judge someone. See you in hell, bitch!

[SLCFreshies]

Am I the only one in Utah who really could care less about this game? Football = waste of a university's resources. Personally, I hate Ute home games 'cause about 100,000 cars cram into my neighborhood and cause havoc.

[shit sandwich]

Funny you mention painting the Y red...I run up there all the time, I ran into the security guys up there back during BYU's homecoming when they light it up for the week, holy shit the one guy I was talking to seriously probably weighed about 130lbs, I asked him if they had to stay up there all night and he informed me, as he pushed his glasses up, that "yes we're up here to make sure nobody rowdy comes up." I instantly pictured a bunch of dudes from the U coming up to paint it red and this guy and his buddy trying to stop them, these 2 were a page out of Revenge of the Nerds. I could just imagine the bloodshed. Their security guys are about as bad ass as their football players. You are correct, that thing is huge! And yes strange things do go on down here.

[TheDingleberry]

holy shit the one guy I was talking to seriously probably weighed about 130lbs, I asked him if they had to stay up there all night and he informed me, as he pushed his glasses up, that "yes we're up here to make sure nobody rowdy comes up." I instantly pictured a bunch of dudes from the U coming up to paint it red and this guy and his buddy trying to stop them, these 2 were a page out of Revenge of the Nerds. I could just imagine the bloodshed.

Shit- A lesson I learned early in life: You can't outrun the radio.

Biggest Y I've ever seen. An ugly one too! Go Utes!

[shit sandwich]

BYU cops don't use radios, they just stop and pray.

[phatty]

No offense taken everyone knows my girlfriends a whore.
But your lack of college football knowledge is comical.

Urban Meyer really is not even a contender for the Florida job. If he goes anywhere from here it will be to Notre Dame. He has said it before and will say it again.

The real contender for the Florida position is the same one that was 3 years ago before Zook was hired. This as you might not remember was Bob Stoops.
You see the 'ol ball coach and stoops are pretty good friends and Stoops makes his personal home in Gainsville. These two Jackals will surely be playing each other next season. Expect to hear an announcement from Florida in the next few weeks.

Funny how you won't let "Non-members" into your church unless they convert, but you'll let them play on your football team. Strange things happen in Provo. One day I'll tell you about the time I painted the Y red, the damn thing is huge.

I take it you have not watched ESPN for about 2 months. The constant discussion is that Stoops does not want the job at Florida and the current Florida university president is the guy who just left the U. Of course, he loves Meyer and wants to bring him in again. Also, Florida seriously offended Spurrier by making him apply for the job as if the trophy case wasn't a good enough resume. As you astutely mention, Stoops and the Ball Coach are good friends. If Spurrier is pissed at Florida, so is Stoops. Plus Spurier is now going to South Carolina. Also, why leave Oklahoma. It is easily as good a job as Florida, except for the golf.

As for Meyer, yes he wants ND, but Willingham keeps doing the minimum to keep his job so that won't happen for awhile. Meyer will either bold for Florida or Washington. If not, he is at Utah for max one year. Once he is gone, Utah will go back to their sucking ways.

To all, I am sorry that you have to deal with self-righteous Mormons. We are not all like that, as I hope you have had good experiences too. I deal with them too and I agree they are lame.

[shit sandwich]

agreed...most of my best friends are mormon, there's the good and the bad. damn though man, that's some pretty opressive shit. so many utahn's are so subdued all the time. it's really amazing how many people in utah are on anti-depressants...by the way i'm new on here, used to frequent the powdermag boards quite often. been skiing alta and da bird for a long time and i have to disagree with you on sundance dude, it's a pretty fun little place! one good thing about the Mormon's...they don't ski on sundays, when there's freshies i have the back mtn at sundance all to myself

[phatty]

agreed...most of my best friends are mormon, there's the good and the bad. damn though man, that's some pretty opressive shit. so many utahn's are so subdued all the time. it's really amazing how many people in utah are on anti-depressants...by the way i'm new on here, used to frequent the powdermag boards quite often. been skiing alta and da bird for a long time and i have to disagree with you on sundance dude, it's a pretty fun little place! one good thing about the Mormon's...they don't ski on sundays, when there's freshies i have the back mtn at sundance all to myself

I agree. Sundance can be great on a power day. Unlike the bird, you can still get good powder into the afternoon. It is just too small and too expensive. I spent many days getting face shots at the Dance.

[Duker]

Anyone who grew up in utah and is not mormon has serious hatred for the holier than thou fucks at byu.

This statment is flawed. I am LDS and I cant stand anything that comes out of Utah Valley. Id rather kick myself in the nuts than go to BYU. Oh and Im stoked for the game this weekend, Utes are going to kill them. Oh and why isnt anyone excited For the USU VS. New Mexico game. UsU is having a great season.... 2-7 and the coach has already been fired. Talk about motivation, this is a joke. Anyway, GO UTES

[TheDingleberry]

This is a thread about football not religion.

Phatty- Heres your reason. (And it's only been 3 weeks since Zook got the axe not 2 months) Stoops' wife hates it in Oklahoma. Plain and simple when the little lady is not happy neither is the coach. So in a couple weeks when Stoops announces that he made the move because it was all about himself and his family think about me.

Still asking yourself why would he do that? Simple. There is nothing in Oklahoma. But there are three top shelf teams in Florida. So where would you want to be #1? I'll take the Gators any day over the Sooners, and I hate the Gators. He's a competitor he will go to the best, the SEC.

[13]

the best, the SEC.

Them's fightin' words, boy.

[72Twenty]

Someone clue me in to why the BYU-Utah is such a heated rivalry? We East of the Mississippi didn't catch many of those games.

IMO, top 3 rivalries in the country are:

1) Michigan - Ohio State
2) Oklahoma - Texas
3) Auburn - 'Bama

In the west, the BYU-UTAH game is HUGE. We actually have huge, classic rivalries here, they are just not as well known, like:

WYO - COLO ST.
BYU - UTAH
well... BYU against any other MWC team is a rivalry, but UTAH/BYU is their biggest; especially this year.

Whenever we (WYO) play BYU, it is a rivalry; our second biggest after CSU. It is especially big when they come up here.

[Viva]

He's a competitor he will go to the best, the SEC.

If your definition of "best" includes scheduling cream puff OOC games, then the above statement may very well be correct.

[VTskibum]

Them's fightin' words, boy.

Anybody who doesn't think the SEC is the toughest conference (right now) in football has their head up their ass!

If nebrasksa where up to their normal selves that might not be true, but you've got blinders on otherwise.

[UTdave]

If your definition of "best" includes scheduling cream puff OOC games, then the above statement may very well be correct.

not all SEC teams do that. Florida plays Miami and FSU. Tennessee played ND who is still a pretty good team. besides who besides ND will USC play out of conference?

edit: I agree that Auburn scheduling The Citadel was a complete ridiculous joke and so are some of the other out of conference teams played.

[Woodsy]

USC played BYU!!
hee hee

rivalry update,
Urban says # 2 in nation.

Monson: U.-Y. rivalry more explosive than others

Gordon Monson
Salt Lake Tribune Columnist

On the one hand, all sports rivalries, within the framework of common sense, are ridiculous.
Utah vs. Brigham Young is no different.
It's about people, many of whom seem exactly the same from an outside view and some of whom differ to varying degrees, finding reasons to isolate and demean and belittle the other guys, despite being nearly mirror images of one another, or only benignly dissimilar, on account of the school they attended, or the team they root for, or the colors they wear on Saturday afternoons.
In a troubled world, where grave considerations create serious divides, the rivalry raging this week between red and blue ranks somewhere between lame and juvenile.
On the other hand, as long as it's kept in that stupid, little, confined context, what the hell? Whoever said that rivalries in sports are so intense because the stakes are so small, maybe nailed it perfectly.
Point is, football is worth hating for.
Anything more significant, such as religion or lifestyle, is not.
That's the beauty and the bane of this whole Cougar-Ute thing.
It is different than most college rivalries in that regard. It's more explosive. It ignites like a lit Marlboro flicked into a bed of dry pine needles, burning right up to the forest's edge, and, sometimes, it burns over into the tall timber, sweeping from the unimportant into the important, and that's where damage does its nasty business.
Cultural anthropologists say modern sports teams symbolize and represent colleges and communities the way knights and warriors once did in feudal times. They supposedly are us, we are them. And whichever side wins, gets the spoils, the booty, the approval, the bragging rights, the self-esteem boost.
In this particular rivalry, though, that boost is more comprehensive than most.
Urban Meyer says he's seen his share of college rivalries in his day. Ohio State-Michigan is the biggest he's experienced, but only because greater numbers of fans in larger population centers are involved there. Utah-BYU, he says, is second, but not by way of pure nitro-fueled intensity, at least not per capita.
"This is a great rivalry," he says. "The country's about to find that out."
But there's that untoward, ugly side to it, too.
The side that transcends the borders of athletic competition or even devotion to school or loyalty to an alma mater.
A side, jackhammered from both directions, that uses - and abuses - a football rivalry as an excuse to hate, outside typical smash-mouth therapeutic bounds. As a cause to loathe or condemn or lash back at some sort of perceived oppression by the dominant "culture," as we like to refer to it around here, or to bash into submission those who choose not to comply with a so-called "higher standard."
Lob a dart in any direction the day of the big game and you'll peg an offender on one side or the other of that pitiful equation.
Anybody who has attended a game in this rivalry has heard the derisive chants and read the profane signs that taunt not only BYU, but the church that owns and runs it. Caught in the crossfire are Mormons who strongly root for Utah, of which there are many. Check the Utes' roster, and see how many players are firm in that specific faith and who have served as LDS Church missionaries, and are now helping the Utes beat the Cougars.
Coming back the other way from the various herds of the good flock is the sometimes sanctimonious shelling, so cocksure that God is cheering for their team, because it, of course, represents His university and all, and the certain and condescending knowledge that the Utes are a bunch of drunks and liberals, living less perfect lives.
Those are the extremes, dancing out on the fringes, and probably are stereotypical.
But they are not apocryphal.
Too bad.
A few years back, while the Utes were beating the Cougars in Provo, a group of Utah fans seated in one section of stands slapped around an anatomically correct blow-up doll dressed as a Cougarette and crudely barked out what they should do to "her" and what "she" should do to them. Honor Code violations, all.
It was bizarre, even by this rivalry's measure.
But no more so than some partisans believing they are better or more blessed from on high because they find too much of their identity wrapped up in feeling connected to righteousness via a school's mission or its football team.
Emotions will flare, rants will rage, then, this weekend about the profound inferiority of the Utes and the obvious deficiencies of the Cougars, the incomparability of Utah and the infallibility of BYU. Everybody's in the pool on this one. In this deal, all around, there are overzealous clowns to the left, and vile jokers to the right.
Funny thing is, on both sides, they're all pretty much the same, at least as far as people go, as far as football fans go, even if there are some slight differences, among some, in the potency of the assorted beverages of choice.
This war is neither holy, nor unholy.
It's just football, the only thing worth hating for.

[UTdave]

I'll give BYU some credit this year. Even though their record sucks they have played one of the toughest schedules in the nation. This year they'll have played 3 out of the 5 undefeated D1A schools and ND and Stanford out of conference. That said they are about to get seriously stomped

[jayfrizzo]

Dingle: Why would Stoops leave Oklahoma where he's currently on top? Meyer's got a way better chance of leaving Utah, where he's on top but in a non-BCS conference, to build that same success in a much larger conference. And there's also the $1 million-a-year raise.

Either way I'll be milling around this weekend in my Florida hat, catching hate from Ute fans.

http://home.cfl.rr.com/welden/oldlogo.gif

[Viva]

besides who besides ND will USC play out of conference?

In the last few years we've played: Auburn, Florida State, Purdue, Kansas State, Colorado, and Penn State. We had a home & home scheduled with Virginia, but they backed out. Next year we open with Arkansas and in two years we start a series with Nebraska. We play Ohio State a few years thereafter. We, too, have had a few dogs on our schedule- SDSU, SJSU, Hawaii, etc., but those teams are way, waaaaay better than Louisiana-Monroe, Troy State, Citadel, Eastern Tennessee State, Sisters of Mercy, and other SEC OOC favorites.

The best team in the SEC this year is Auburn and SC, Kal, Utah, and maybe Choklahoma all win that matchup.

[CS]

Heh, the game must be big, ESPN game day is going to be there.

As for the SEC being the toughest conference, um, yeah, not really. Just because they get more hype, doesn't mean it's tougher.

And I can't see how BYU will compete with the U this year. They just don't have the D to stop the Ute offense. But hell, who knows in a rivalry game. As much as I'd like to see the U screw up the BCS by going undefeated, it sure would be cool to see 'em get smacked down by the boys from the south.

[13]

This is all subjective anyway.

Some of us (IE: Viva) think OOC games have more bearing on which conference is better and some of us (IE: Me, Woodsy, & Dingle) think the W-L column in conference play determines which conference is better.