4FRNT Renegade ~ Hand built in SLC.

[BC_Mike]

Does anyone have these available?

I got a set of these Rens through mtnlion last year, and can vouch for him and the shop in Banff. Everything went smooth and shipping was perfect. Top source for Rens IMO.

[bmath]

I received word I will most likely not be seeing them until after the new year.

Until then can someone post a profile pic of the 196? Just want to get an idea of the rocker profile of the 196.

Google is your friend :-)

• tip profile
• tail profile
• full pic

Worth noting that the "full pic" taken has the skis splayed out a bit more than reality. Looking at my pair lying against each other it's more like there's about 120cm (roughly) of flat camber underfoot, super mellow rocker in the tail, and medium-mellow rocker in the forebody that gets more pronounced near the end.

[mntlion]

Demo pair?

the big boy size, no. the "ladies length" yes (I think)

[whyturn]

Just got my shipping notification for the 196's, so stoked. Should have them 12/27 or 12/28. A late christmas present, sweet.
Quiver is complete

[mntlion]

196 arrived at the store. Thanks guys. The 186 is due to arrive next week?

if any alberta maggots want to drool on them. soul ski and bike, in banff.

[Bird Blaster]

Why did you have to say you have 196's. Must restrain....until next season

[mntlion]

bird: come take a look, I think we are only getting the one pair in. Also have 186 in demo.

[|K_M|]

Still no word or anything, I'd love my skis....heard they were all supposed to be shipped be xmas, I guess that isn't happening.

[azzure]

I was told it may be more like mid Jan now to have them all shipped out.

[mntlion]

Why did you have to say you have 196's. Must restrain....until next season

call the store, ask for Jason, he can tell you the price, and shipping price.. Odds are the skis are $900, + GST + shipping. Only got one pair, so if you want em, call soon

[|K_M|]

I was told it may be more like mid Jan now to have them all shipped out.

That makes me sad

[whyturn]

Mine arrive tomorrow, like a kid in a candy store with Orange FKS ready to go............

[whyturn]

Here you go boys, the slayer is in






Plan to look like this guy soon........

[azzure]

How do they flex? They look HUGE!

[whyturn]

They are not that huge. I had 186 last season and these look perfect. I am 6-3 175 and they are right in middle on 4frnt chart for sizing. flex is a little less than my old 186 from memory. But these ski so easy I am not worried. Based on Hoji rec I will mount at 92 from tail (-6) with FKS140. This completes quiver. I figure they will be sick for most any day..........

[DudeLebowSKI]

You can definitely see the difference in the tip curvature. The tips look like a big improvement. I wish my 2010 186's had those tips. Let us know how they are!

[azzure]

Whyturn, based on what you're saying about your size (I think we're similar as I'm 6'2 210) and flex I too have decided to pull the trigger.

If they are too big I plan to find you and make you take them off my hands.

[whyturn]

^^^^^your same size as Matt from 4frnt according to my ski paperwork so you should be fine. But you must ski them in Utah

[Brianskis]

That makes me sad

Turn that frown upside down K_M. I have something for you at the shop...

[|K_M|]

Turn that frown upside down K_M. I have something for you at the shop...

Ohmahgodohmahgodohmahgod. I'm at schweitzer for the next few days, but as SOON as I get back to spokane, I will be at the shop as fast as I can possibly get over there.

[JJChit]

Are the 2012 topsheets the same as 2011?

[bmath]

I've had my pair for like 3 weeks, but I'm in Tahoe! All we have is man-made groomers. blah.

Still super sexy pair of sticks. Compared to my all mountain ski, the CRJ, they're much stiffer so blasting through crud should be fun!

I'm gonna go cuddle with them. no homo.

Who am I kidding? I'm gay for these skis.

[whyturn]

Graphics are very similar but they added trees at the bottom and a 4frnt logo on right top. Colors are more greenish and less bright orange. But they look great and ski even better

[huge-go]

Have gotten 4 days on these skis now, and can say that they are my favourite ski I've ever ridden after that amount of time. My current pair of skis was the jj's, and I had a pair of 193 ehps I was rocking before I broke those. Took me about 2 runs to figure out exactly how to stand on these and how to make them turn, but once I did, it was like all the best qualities of the jj's and my ehps had gotten fused together. You can charge so hard because of the flex, but thanks to the reverse camber they're so easy to hop around on and be nimble when you need to be. I've skied some pretty deep snow the last 2 days, pockets of waist deep, and I can say that float is definitely not lacking with these.
I bought a pair from last season, so I do not have the extra cm of tip rocker, but did not find myself wanting more float even once. Maybe my turn style just doesn't demand the same float that some other skiers on this board need. I had them mounted at -6 from centre.
As for skiing style, I had some awkwardness on the first 2 runs because I was trying to drive them, but it didn't feel very natural so I tried just standing centred and basically just pivoting them, and this instantly made them come alive for me.

[Mustonen]

As for skiing style, I had some awkwardness on the first 2 runs because I was trying to drive them, but it didn't feel very natural so I tried just standing centred and basically just pivoting them, and this instantly made them come alive for me.

That's weird, right? Had the same experience....now it takes me a couple runs to adjust to more traditional skis...