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    This looks like a serious deal...what am I missing?

    I'm trying to find reasons that this bike shouldn't be selling for closer to $2K and not succeeding. What am I missing?

    http://www.supergo.com/profile.cfm?L...604&referpage=

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spats
    I'm trying to find reasons that this bike shouldn't be selling for closer to $2K and not succeeding. What am I missing?

    http://www.supergo.com/profile.cfm?L...604&referpage=
    It has a Manitou on it.

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    If you buy in store it has a z150 on it. I rode one around for a bit and it felt great. Simple single pivot design, but even without the frame that's a good price for the components. I think the last two years of that frame were recalled for osme reason so they are stringing the old copmonents on the new frames. If you look the bike in the picture has a z150, but it says manitou in the description. Just buy it you can't go wrong for the price.

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    I used to be a serious Manitou hater, because they sucked - elastomer forks priced like real forks.

    But I've liked the Swinger rear shocks I've ridden, and everyone seems to like their new forks (i.e. past couple of years) -- particularly the Shermans. Plus it's a $550 fork on a $1000 bike.

    I generally trust your judgment, C, so I'll ask: what's wrong with the new stuff?

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    Art: from what I've read the rear triangles were failing. And yeah, I would pay $999 for that build kit. I'll call the local Supergo and see which fork they come with...a Z150 would be even sweeter.

    My main problem is that I don't like brake jack...but I can't find a 4-bar design equipped comparably for double that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spats
    Art: from what I've read the rear triangles were failing. And yeah, I would pay $999 for that build kit. I'll call the local Supergo and see which fork they come with...a Z150 would be even sweeter.

    My main problem is that I don't like brake jack...but I can't find a 4-bar design equipped comparably for double that price.
    I just have a general disdain for manitou forks. I've never been on one that felt good and never known anyone that had one that didn't break down. If you can get the z150 with that then definitely have at it.

    As for the brake jack, it's really not that big of a deal (since that bike is basically the same design as the bullit I ride). I only notice it on occasion and that's when I come flying into a corner with a ton of speed. Otherwise, just use more front brake (it has more stopping power anyways) and the problem is solved.

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    I know the Supergo in Colorado had 3 or 4 of the 67s with z150s for $999. Don't worry about brake jack. I ride a bullit (very similar frame) and rarely notice it. Hell at this price you can buy a floater and still get a great deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spats
    What am I missing?
    All sizes but one are on backorder?

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    It's a great deal considering the build kit. When you kill or get tired of the frame you can get a Marin Attack Trail frame for $900 or less (on sale right now for $700) and have a kickass 4 bar setup with a 6 inch travel rear and you'll already have everything you'll need to put together a sweet ride for yourself.

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    Sounds like a great price on a very nicely speced bike. The only thing you'd be missing is the bike snobbery of owning a "boutique" bike.

    As for brake jack, wouldn't the stable platform rear shock significantly reduce brake jack? I've never had a single pivot design, but it seems to me that brake jack is caused by the rear brake stiffening the rear suspension, which in turn causes the rear of the bike to kind of buck upwards. I would think a stable platform shock would reduce this or eliminate it completely.
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    Go for it. You can't go wrong, you could even strip the bike sell it in parts and probably make some money off of the deal. But if you are looking for a freeridish bike to get into the sport, that definetly looks like a good cheap option.
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    I've bought 2 bikes from SuperGo this year. The Weyless XP Pro and a Iron Horse Free Ride. They both work great and have had no problems with them. I takes about 1-2 hours to put it togeather and tune it. I know I'm cheap, but you get a lot of bike for the money. Crinkle is the one who first told me about SuperGo. If there a store here in UT, I'd be way tempted to buy a buch more stuff.
    I want a 6" travel 20lb MTB. I found the 20lb MTB, but only good for riders under 87 pounds.

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    Hey, I'm considering the same purchase...but I'm not sure of the sizing...I'm 170 cm tall (67 inches or 5'7'' I believe) and have no experience with full-sussers...16'' or 18''?
    Thx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neon
    Hey, I'm considering the same purchase...but I'm not sure of the sizing...I'm 170 cm tall (67 inches or 5'7'' I believe) and have no experience with full-sussers...16'' or 18''?
    Thx!
    16"

    .......

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    So I did some phone work and found out that the Marzocchi fork on the store version is a Z150 Drop Off, not the regular Z150 FR. This means it's got damping rod internals instead of the cartridges found on the regular Z1/Z150s.

    I may end up just mailordering, especially since none of the shops can tell me when they're going to get more in.

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    Got mine. Z150 Dropoff is on ebay. 18" complete bike weighs almost exactly 40# with the stock big heavy flat pedals and the 1100g wire-bead Weirwolfs. Wheels (Dual Duty FR) and cranks (Holzfeller w/bash) are pimp. Looks exactly like a dark gloss green Bullitt, short wheelbase and all. CA tax and shipping pushes it just over $1100. Stoked to get the new fork so I can ride.

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    hey spats, you're pretty tall aren't you? what size did you get?

    what would you recommend for me? 6' and wear 32" inseam pants.

    thanks!

    does that fork really bring $300-$400 on ebay?
    Last edited by xboat; 12-10-2004 at 01:02 PM.

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    xboat: The 18" fits me well at a 33" inseam. I could just barely stand over a 20" because of the bent top tube, but I'd be nutting myself constantly on the trail.

    I highly suspect the geometry is very close to the Bullit so I'd look at their size chart. Unfortunately the Bullit comes in 14.5", 17", and 19", and the 67 comes in 16", 18", 20", so you have to interpolate.

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