More BCS bullshite!

[Telephil]

and while all this talk is nice, unless BYU or Wyoming can stp them we will be in the Fiesta bowl, prolly against Buzz's biys from West Va., or the Cavaliers.

I agree with this and what Cololi has said. If they win the two remaining games, I think they'll be there. There is still a lot of football to be played, so even if they don't end up in the top 6, they'll still be in the fiesta bowl.

[bigsugar]

They fired Willingham?!

Heh.

Not yet.

he beat Tennesee and Michigan so he probably stays for a while......I'm not really sure how I feel about that.

[Woodsy]

BCS is un-American

as many indicators have shown,
"American" has come to represent capitalist, not so much democratic Republic or egalitarian.

In that light the BCS is VERY American as is shown by the FedEx Orange Bowl, the Nokia Suga Bowl, th Tostitos Fiesta bowl, Toyota Gator Bowl, the Capital 1 bowl, the Chic-Fil_a Peach bowl, ad infinitum.

Hell even the Grandaddy, The Rose Bowl is now tagged as presented by citibank.

Dolla dolla bills y'all.

Jeremy Bloom is right, the schools make money off the backs of students.

[Game Over]

Jeremy Bloom is right, the schools make money off the backs of students.

Bloom is a fucking crybaby.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...228EST0220.DTL

Two wins would ensure a second straight MWC title. The league champ gets a Liberty Bowl berth, which pays $1.35 million.[/quote]

Hey, Utah has somthing to look foward too after getting screwed by the BCS.

[Egon]

I doubted this team myself until I saw them play.
Alex Smith has to be the smartest if not the most talented quarterback in the nation. The very least this team deserves is a chance to prove themselves if they continue to win.

Hell at this point, West Virginia will make the BCS?
How a conference that shitty still gets an automatic bid is beyond me.
Utah is also ranked higher than any school in the ACC, but that conference still gets to send one of its fuckups to a megadollar bowl.
The BCS is basically rewarding schools that did not earn the right to be there.

But none of this matters if Utah doesn't win the mountain west.


Okay back to commutative rings, modules, and eigencrap

[Plakespear]

I got two words for the NCAA:

Play Off

[Viva]

This was posted a few weeks back on one of the SC boards by USC484:

The Myth of the SEC

Charting the SEC.....the best conference in football!
So it’s time to check in with our friends from the SEC again to see how they’re doing. I’ve maintained that the SEC has a formula for success…..schedule weak OOC teams, beat up on conference doormats, then go .500 against ranked teams in your own conference. At the end of the season, you’re ranked and in a bowl.

So, how is that holding up?

Florida will most likely drop out of the rankings, and all it took was 3 losses in 7 games to do that. They have wins against Eastern Michigan, Kentucky, Arkansas, and Middle Tennessee State. They’ve lost to LSU, Tennessee, and Mississippi State.

Before the MSU game they were ranked 19th with 2 losses to . How many Pac 10 teams could do that? If they did, how many would be ranked?

Their sister team, LSU, still manages to be ranked. Their wins? Oregon State, Arkansas State, Mississippi State, Florida, and Troy. Losses? Georgia and Auburn. Classic SEC formula here….beat weak OOC teams and SEC teams, then lose against ranked teams. Bingo! You’re a ranked SEC team!

Just to summarize both teams……wins against Eastern Michigan, Kentucky, Middle Tennessee State, Troy, Oregon State, Arkansas, Mississippi State, and Florida. All unranked teams.

Losses to Tennessee, Mississippi State, Georgia, LSU, and Auburn. They’re 0-3 against ranked teams with a couple of losses to unranked teams.

Ummmm….couldn’t UCLA do that? The Bruins are 0-3 against ranked teams and 4-0 against unranked teams. If they hadn’t scheduled Oklahoma State and instead played Eastern Michigan, I’m assuming that they would be 5-2 and ranked. Consider that the next time an SEC fan yells, “Hey, we have X teams ranked in the top 25!”

Moving along now…..Tennessee. Classic SEC formula here. Wins against UNLV, Florida, LA Tech, Mississippi, and Alabama. USC would be 5-0 with that. So would Cal. Probably even ASU. The ranked teams they’ve played? Auburn and Georgia. They went 1-1. Wins against weak teams, then .500 against ranked teams…..and bingo! You’re knocking at the door of the top 10.

Georgia? Wins against Georgia Southern, South Carolina, Marshall, LSU, Vandy, and Arkansas. Again, USC, CAL, and ASU are 6-0 with that. Even UCLA and Stanford would probably get through with only one loss.

Record against ranked teams? 1-1. Hey! We’re in the top 10!

Let's see how the rest of the SEC is doing in their bowl quests.

How about South Carolina? They’re one win away from becoming bowl game eligible at 5-2. Wins against Vandy, South Florida, Troy, Alabama, and Kentucky. Losses to Georgia and Mississippi.

Hmmm…so how can we get Oregon State and WSU above .500? Even Washington would be 3-4 with that schedule.

Alabama? They’re 5-3! One more win baby! Wins against Western Carolina, Utah State, Kentucky, Southern Miss, and Mississippi. Losses to Arkansas, South Carolina, and Tennessee. Give their schedule to Stanford and their loss to Notre Dame turns into a win against Western Carolina. Up until last week Stanford would have been 5-1 with their only loss coming to USC. Top 15 material anyone???? Only if they’re S-E-C!


Do the same for UCLA….replace Oklahoma Sate with Utah State. UCLA would be 5-2 with their only losses coming to a ranked ASU and Cal. Hmmm….which SEC team would they be? How about LSU???? Bingo! UCLA is ranked now!

ASU is 6-1 with its only loss coming to USC. They’re 1-1 against ranked teams. If they were in the SEC and had a name like Tennessee or Georgia, they’d be in the Top 10. ASU got destroyed by USC like Tennessee got destroyed by Auburn. Right now Tennessee is fighting for a BCS bowl while ASU is fighting to stay ranked.

Oregon State is 0-4 against ranked teams and 3-0 against unranked teams. Replace LSU and Boise St. and insert Louisiana Monroe and Western Kentucky and I have a strange feeling they’d be 5-2 with their only losses coming to an ranked Cal and ASU. Hmmm…can we think of any SEC teams that are ranked with 2 losses coming to ranked teams from their own conference?


So how good is the SEC really??? It’s impossible to tell. By refusing to play anyone out of conference, and then going .500 against ranked teams in their own conference, no one really knows where they stand.

They also get an incredible benefit by their preseason rankings.

By having LSU and Florida ranked in the top 25 preseason poll, the teams that beat them gained poll position for those wins. They can’t give those poll positions back again. Just look at Florida….an unranked team today. Tennessee went from #13 to #8 after beating them. LSU went from #24 to #17 after its win over Florida.

Guys….Florida is 4-3 with wins against Eastern Michigan, Kentucky, Arkansas, and Middle Tennessee State. You'll have to excuse me if I think a jump in the ranking for LSU beating Florida might be suspect.

Auburn went from #15 to #10 after beating LSU…..

Seeing a pattern here? Teams in the SEC went from #13 to #8, #24 to #17, and #15 to #10….all by beating LSU and Florida who are a combined 9-5.

Georgia actually picked up one first place vote in the AP poll after beating LSU at home by 1 point….amazing, huh?


So, how do they do it? Just think of the above when an SEC fan talks about the number of ranked teams they have. And don’t forget the formula…..3-0 out of conference, 3-0 against the doormats, then .500 or worse against ranked teams.

Your bowl is waiting for you.

[scoober]

They fired Willingham?!

you may have had our balls in a salad shooter the last few years, but as you know this is a huge game for both of our schools every year. right now ND is the epitome of "any given team can beat any other given team on any given day", they've been on both sides of that this year.

you can't be serious that USC fans have become so arrogant as to write of ND as a guaranteed win...

[13]

you can't be serious that USC fans have become so arrogant as to write of ND as a guaranteed win...

If they're anything like the Ann Arbor princesses, that'll work in your favor.

[Viva]

you can't be serious that USC fans have become so arrogant as to write of ND as a guaranteed win...

No. All I'm saying is that I don't think or feel that T. Willingham is a very good coach.

Edit: A definite improvement over Davie, to be sure, but not all that good.

[13]

Clarett opens his mowf.

Ruh-roh! Think of the implications.

[Game Over]

No. All I'm saying is that I don't think or feel that T. Willingham is a very good coach.

Edit: A definite improvement over Davie, to be sure, but not all that good.

I think he was a lot more effective at Stanford for sure.

[bigsugar]

Notre Dame is going to steal Urban Meyer from you Utes anyways (I hope).....the party will be over for you guys after this year.

[Woodsy]

This was posted a few weeks back on one of the SC boards by USC484:

The Myth of the SEC

trying to disprove your theory with no luck.

I think all agree that pre season polls cause havok and trouble the rest of the year & should be eliminated.

[Lumpy]

Ron McBride must be ecstatic someone else is winning with his recruits.

Oh and SteepConcrete...quit whining about OU playing bad ball this year. I had to be on the other side of the WSU-OU game....yikes!!!

As much as I hate to say it, OU has been competitive and looked much better as the season wears on. Hopefully we can get back to a Pac-10 dominated by NW schools. That is, by some miracle, USC gets the death penalty for violations and Tedford leaves Cal,... our only hopes.

I enjoy hating Dawgs and Ducks much more than 'SC (no offense Viva) and feel really wierd pitying the Montlake Mutts.

[cololi]

Ron McBride must be ecstatic someone else is winning with his recruits.

They may be Ron Mcbrides recruits (for the most part), but it is Meyers system. Anyone think Alex Smith would be a Heisman candidate handing the ball of 45 times a game? McBride recruited some good talent, but Meyer turned them into good football players and put them into a system that works with their talents.

Notre Dame isn't known for firing coaches mid contract. If Willingham gets the boot, there is no doubt Meyer would go there over any other job that may be available.

[Telephil]

A friend of mine had lunch with the athletic director at the U. today. He said the mountain west has already arranged a buyout with the liberty bowl. Utes are BCS bound. (hopefully)

[Lumpy]

A friend of mine had lunch with the athletic director at the U. today. He said the mountain west has already arranged a buyout with the liberty bowl. Utes are BCS bound. (hopefully)

ACKKKK!!! UBER-EXTREMO JINX!!!

[Viva]

Just in case there's any question over which team I support.

http://www.teamsportsbeachwear.com/p...ges/img218.jpg

[Helicrackjnky]

Right there with you Viva!!! FIGHT ON!!! See YA in Miami on 1/4/05!!!!!!