We are the bastards the rest of the world thinks we are

[bad_roo]

It must be child's play reverse engineering a missile that's just flown into the ground at over 300mph.

[edg]

It must be child's play reverse engineering a missile that's just flown into the ground at over 300mph.

Easier that reverse engineering one which is still flying at 300mph, I suppose...

edg

[mr_gyptian]

Unless you openly support the more moronic policies of Bush, it's doubtful you would encounter any hostility here in Europe. By and large we're willing to give Americans a fair crack of the whip. People will smile, be civil and respectful but make no mistake, unless you demonstrate otherwise, there will be a fair amount of rather unflattering assumptions made about your intellect and political sophistication. Harsh, I know, but that's the way it is over here right now.

As opposed to European intellect and political sophistication. Euro-Assholes can speak when genocides stop happening in their backyard. I've posted on the subject at length. But AntiSoCal requested some Mark Twain quotes. Here's an essay.





A Word Of Encouragement For Our Blushing Exiles
.
..Well, what do you think of our country now? And what do you think of the figure she is cutting before the eyes of the world? For one, I am ashamed. [Extract from a long and heated letter from a Voluntary Exile, Member of the American Colony, Paris.]


And so you are ashamed. I am trying to think out what it can have been that has produced this large attitude of mind and this fine flow of sarcasm. Apparently you are ashamed to look Europe in the face; ashamed of the American name; temporarily ashamed of your nationality. By the light of remarks made to me by an American here in Vienna, I judge that you are ashamed because:

1. We are meddling where we have no business and no right; meddling with the private family matters of a sister nation; intruding upon her sacred right to do as she pleases with her own, unquestioned by anybody.
2. We are doing this under a sham humanitarian pretext.
3. Doing it in order to filch Cuba, the formal and distinct disclaimer in the ultimatum being very, very thin humbug, and easily detectable by you and virtuous Europe.
4. And finally you are ashamed of all this because it is new, and base, and brutal, and dishonest; and because Europe, having had no previous experience of such things, is horrified by it and can never respect us nor associate with us any more.

Brutal, base, dishonest? We? Land Thieves? Shedders of innocent blood? We? Traitors to our official word? We? Are we going to lose Europe's respect because of this new and dreadful conduct? Russia's, for instance? Is she lying stretched out on her back in Manchuria, with her head among her Siberian prisons and her feet in Port Arthur, trying to read over the fairy tales she told Lord Salisbury, and not able to do it for crying because we are maneuvering to treacherously smouch Cuba from feeble Spain, and because we are ungently shedding innocent Spanish blood?

Is it France's respect that we are going to lose? Is our unchivalric conduct troubling a nation which exists to-day because a brave young girl saved it when its poltroons had lost it - a nation which deserted her as one man when her day of peril came? Is our treacherous assault upon a weak people distressing a nation which contributed Bartholomew's Day to human history? Is our ruthless spirit offending the sensibilities of the nation which gave us the Reign of Terror to read about? Is our unmanly intrusion into the private affairs of a sister nation shocking the feelings of the people who sent Maximilian to Mexico? Are our shabby and pusillanimous ways outraging the fastidious people who have sent an innocent man (Dreyfus) to a living hell, taken to their embraces the slimy guilty one, and submitted to indignities Emile Zola - the manliest man in France?

Is it Spain's respect that we are going to lose? Is she sitting sadly conning her great history and contrasting it with our meddling, cruel, perfidious one - our shameful history of foreign robberies, humanitarian shams, and annihilations of weak and unoffending nations? Is she remembering with pride how she sent Columbus home in chains; how she sent half of the harmless West Indians into slavery and the rest to the grave, leaving not one alive; how she robbed and slaughtered the Inca's gentle race, then beguiled the Inca into her power with fair promises and burned him at the stake; how she drenched the New World in blood, and earned and got the name of The Nation With The Bloody Footprint; how she drove all the Jews out of Spain in a day, allowing them to sell their property, but forbidding them to carry any money out of the country; how she roasted heretics by the thousands and thousands in her public squares, generation after generation, her kings and her priests looking on as at a holiday show; how her Holy Inquisition imported hell into the earth; how she was the first to institute it and the last to give it up - and then only under compulsion; how, with a spirit unmodified by time, she still tortures her prisoners to-day; how, with her ancient passion for pain and blood unchanged, she still crowds the arena with ladies and gentlemen and priests to see with delight a bull harried and persecuted and a gored horse dragging his entrails on the ground; and how, with this incredible character surviving all attempts to civilize it, her Duke of Alva rises again in the person of General Weyler - to-day the most idolized personage in Spain - and we see a hundred thousand women and children shut up in pens and pitilessly starved to death?

Are we indeed going to lose Spain's respect? Is there no way to avoid this calamity - or this compliment? Are we going to lose her respect because we have made a promise in our ultimatum which she thinks we shall break? And meantime is she trying to recall some promise of her own which she has kept?

Is the Professional Official Fibber of Europe really troubled with our morals? Dear Parisian friend, are you taking seriously the daily remark of the newspaper and the orater about "this noble nation with an illustrious history"? That is mere kindness, mere charity for a people in temporary hard luck. The newspaper and the orator do not mean it. They wink when they say it.

And so you are ashamed. Do not be ashamed; there is no occasion for it.

[Grange]

"Clinton sent a couple of missles after Osama"? Are you kidding? This event created Al Queada as we know it! This became the Muslim world's equivalent of 9/11!

Created Al Qaeda as we know it? What about the embassy bombings in Kenja and Tanzania? What kind of Al Qaeda was that?

If you think the missiles created the Al Qaeda that is around today what do you think the War in Iraq will do? We have killed a hell of a lot more civilians in Iraq that we did with the Missiles launched by Clinton.

As far as Clinton launching the missiles to distract Americans from the Monica Lewinski scandle we disagree. I believe he went after Osama because he saw him as a threat like Bush going into Afghanistan because he thought Osama was a threat.

[edg]

As opposed to European intellect and political sophistication. Euro-Assholes can speak when genocides stop happening in their backyard. I've posted on the subject at length.

He wasn't justifying the reaction of people over here, he was explaining it. Those Euro-Assholes can draw whatever conclusion they want, and if that conclusion is if you support a moron then you're are a moron, so be it; they don't need your permission to 'speak' - it's their opinion.

edg

[bad_roo]

Gyptian - I didn't read any of that shit. Please formulate some ideas of your own rather than cutting and pasting vast, tedious tracts of somebody elses work.

[iceman]

Gyptian - I didn't read any of that shit. Please formulate some ideas of your own rather than cutting and pasting vast, tedious tracts of somebody elses work.

I agree. More vast, tedious tracts of mr_g's work is exactly what we need around here.

[mr_gyptian]

Gyptian - I didn't read any of that shit. Please formulate some ideas of your own rather than cutting and pasting vast, tedious tracts of somebody elses work.

this is that intellect and sophistication you must be speaking of.

It's a letter from Mark Twain to an Ex-Pat.

How do you say it. you're knickers must be twisted?

BTW, did the Guardian have any more editorials requesting the re-incarnation/return of our esteemed Presidential assassins?

[Ripzalot]

The London Daily Mirror's real front page today...

i didn't know the daily mirror had 59,054,087 readers.

[bad_roo]

this is that intellect and sophistication you must be speaking of.

Here's some Euro style intellect and sophistication that I know you'll love.

I'm in love with you girl 'cause you're on my mind,
you're the one I think about most every time.
And when you pack a smile in everything you do,
don't you understand, girl, this love is true.
You're soft, succulent so sweet and thin
that's kind of like a vision upon your skin.
It lightens up my day, and that's oh so true.
Together we're one separated we're two.
To make you all mine, all mine is my desire.
'Cause you contain a quality, you that I admire.
You're pretty plain and simple, you rule my world so try to understand.
I'm in love girl,
I'm in so love girl.
I'm just in love girl, and this is true.
Girl, you know it's true.

[basom]

viva vanilli

[mr_gyptian]

Here's some Euro style intellect and sophistication that I know you'll love.

I'm in love with you girl 'cause you're on my mind,
you're the one I think about most every time.
And when you pack a smile in everything you do,
don't you understand, girl, this love is true.
You're soft, succulent so sweet and thin
that's kind of like a vision upon your skin.
It lightens up my day, and that's oh so true.
Together we're one separated we're two.
To make you all mine, all mine is my desire.
'Cause you contain a quality, you that I admire.
You're pretty plain and simple, you rule my world so try to understand.
I'm in love girl,
I'm in so love girl.
I'm just in love girl, and this is true.
Girl, you know it's true.

Thanks. But those guys are from East Chicago. I'm pretty sure they tumbled for Jesse White before their lip sync days.

additionally, I am about two seconds away from deleting the Arafat thread.

It's turned into a Python dork reunion. And well, I cannot stand for that.

[KQ]

additionally, I am about two seconds away from deleting the Arafat thread.

It's turned into a Python dork reunion. And well, I cannot stand for that.

Control freak

[mr_gyptian]

Next thing I know there will be a Jimmy Buffet discussion in there.

slippery slopes and such.

[The Reverend Floater]

I'm starting Magtopia. It's about 200 miles wide and thousands of miles long. It starts in SW Colorado and makes it's winding way up though WY, over to UT, up to MT and into the Canadian interior BC (assuming they're cool with it). We'll annex Baja, too, for vacations.

There are laws, though:

1. No sideslipping.
2. No snowblades.
3. No crack.
4. No career politicians need apply. Only existing maggots will be elgible for public office.
5 . No tops.

Who's with me?

[basom]

3. No crack.

Who's with me?

i'm in if i can still free base.

[optics]

intellect and sophistication...

...you're knickers

Oh, the irony.

[basom]

isn't it obvious that bad_roo is knickers????

i thought that was common knowledge *shrug*

[Woodsy]

I'm starting Magtopia. It's about 200 miles wide and thousands of miles long. It starts in SW Colorado and makes it's winding way up though WY, over to UT, up to MT and into the Canadian interior BC (assuming they're cool with it). We'll annex Baja, too, for vacations.

There are laws, though:

1. No sideslipping.
2. No snowblades.
3. No crack.
4. No career politicians need apply. Only existing maggots will be elgible for public office.
5 . No tops.

Who's with me?

Im Onnit & all for it.
Buster as pres,
Froz as Exchequer
Rev for sec of State &
Xover as sec of Defense
We need to amend the no tops thing though......
I mean we ski ya know & nipple deep is not kidding here some times & thats cold.
plus you've seen my fat hairy upper torso, you sure you wanna relive that?

[optics]

isn't it obvious that bad_roo is knickers????

i thought that was common knowledge *shrug*

Knicker, please.

[mildbill.]

Here's some Euro style intellect and sophistication that I know you'll love.

I'm in love with you girl 'cause you're on my mind,
you're the one I think about most every time.
And when you pack a smile in everything you do,
don't you understand, girl, this love is true.
You're soft, succulent so sweet and thin
that's kind of like a vision upon your skin.
It lightens up my day, and that's oh so true.
Together we're one separated we're two.
To make you all mine, all mine is my desire.
'Cause you contain a quality, you that I admire.
You're pretty plain and simple, you rule my world so try to understand.
I'm in love girl,
I'm in so love girl.
I'm just in love girl, and this is true.
Girl, you know it's true.

really, thanks so much for posting that...









[PLAYING IN MY FUCKING HEAD NOW, THANKS] girl you know it's true [background music]doodoododododoot doot doo doo doo [/bm] OOO OOO OOO I love you [background music] dootdoodoodoodooooo doooooo [/bm] [/PIMFHN,T]

[PlayHarder]

I'm starting Magtopia. It's about 200 miles wide and thousands of miles long. It starts in SW Colorado and makes it's winding way up though WY, over to UT, up to MT and into the Canadian interior BC (assuming they're cool with it). We'll annex Baja, too, for vacations.

There are laws, though:

1. No sideslipping.
2. No snowblades.
3. No crack.
4. No career politicians need apply. Only existing maggots will be elgible for public office.
5 . No tops.

Who's with me?

I'll offer up the western 200 km's of Alberta, if you'll consider some of California & Washington.

[Woodsy]

I'll offer up the western 200 km's of Alberta, if you'll consider some of California & Washington.

nah,
this is a rocky mountain high,

the Pacific's ( SactowntoPortownsend) is gonna secede anyway. so they can be our allies against jesusland.

[basom]

Knicker, please.

woohoohoo... thats a fucking keeper optics!

mind if i use that later?

[optics]

woohoohoo... thats a fucking keeper optics!

mind if i use that later?

Go for it. Works best plural and on british girls.