We are the bastards the rest of the world thinks we are

[KevinDineen]

...and we deserve anything that happens from here on out. I'm am truly embarrassed and ashamed of my country.

[noodles]

there is a simple solution: return Texas back to its rightful owner.

[A-wreck]

those are strong words

[snowave]

unfortunately, I have to agree with Kevin..

[bigsugar]

yeah those are pretty strong words.......I find it hard to believe that our situation is really that bad.......It's not good, but don't start moving to Tijuana just yet.

[KevinDineen]

there is a simple solution: return Texas back to its rightful owner.

Three U.S. presidents have escalated unnecessary (non-defensive) wars in which companies to which they had financial ties benefited directly. All three were from Texas.

[AntiSoCalSkier]

Consider the fact that those states that voted for Bush are the states that are least likely to suffer in the event of a terrorist attack. It's the Democratic states that will suffer with their big cities and juicy targets.

[SteepnDeep]

...and we deserve anything that happens from here on out. I'm am truly embarrassed and ashamed of my country.

Your self loathing is pathetic. Crying like a little girl...

[glademaster]

I have to agree with KD on this one. We have shown the world how stupid and ignorant the majority of Americans really are. I weep for our nation and the world.

[snowrider]

I'm up here in Burlington VT in a university town and you'd think the world just ended. A large band of hippies (I'm not sterotpying they were all hippies) just walked by my house banging drums and yelling. All of VT will probably commit suicide

I try to keep an open mind and I disagree with some of Bush's decisions and agree with others. I hardly think we are in such a dire situation right now.

Maybe I'm a naive idealist, but I will continue to attend university and will continue to ski, life will go on.

I am attending UNSW in Sydney next semester and will I be ashamed to say I'm American? No. Does George Bush define who I am as a person and a citizen? No.

George Bush may not be the ideal person, but the country voted. 4 years is 4 years, regardless the United States will continue to have the highest living standard and be the most prosperous country in the world. The Apocolypse is not now.

[Knockneed Man]

Could not agree with you more... It goes to show that the majority of Americans are dumb and un-educated, or at the very least, completely mis-guided. Dont come bitching to me about your $240 per month health care plan, or the possible scenerio of an overturned Roe vs Wade.

A lot of people voted for Bush because he is an incumbant, and feel like they are better off not having change... Most voted for him due to "The War On Terror". Well... when your foreign policies are such as his, and you are the un-welcomed and un-justly sefl-pronounced POLICE OF THE WORLD, you better have a strong army... because the whole world hates you and wants to kick your ass!

I know a lot of you are also world travelers, and I am sure most of you while in a different country ( at least should be) emberrassed to be an American.

We wont even get in to the enviroment.... There isnt even a debate there.

Now that the world knows that over half of voting Americans support our "leader" in his shiting on the world... I believe there will be MORE retaliations and terror inflicted on us than there would have been had we shown the world we were concerned about our image and future, by voting for a new and better President.

Bush is the and we are all riding his coat tails down.

[cj001f]

It's not good, but don't start moving to Tijuana just yet.

Why would a skiier run to Tijuana?

[Game Over]

well put KD, I feel the same.

[vinzclortho]

It's the Democratic states that will suffer with their big cities and juicy targets.

I had those same exact thoughts last night while watching this election unfold.

[The AD]

Why would a skiier run to Tijuana?

The better question is why would a skiing magazine have their offices in Orange County, California?

[altagirl]

Consider the fact that those states that voted for Bush are the states that are least likely to suffer in the event of a terrorist attack. It's the Democratic states that will suffer with their big cities and juicy targets.

No kidding. Bush supporters said terrorism was one of their top reasons for voting for him, yet New Yorkers, who were the ones most affected by terrorism, wanted him out by a huge margin. Something is seriously wrong there.

It really depresses me. The anti-gay amendments depress me too. Why, in the land of "religious freedom" do we need to enforce religious beliefs on people?

[verbier61]

KD, I just wrote in another thread that
"I can not speak for all europe. But I can speak for myself and I am an european who has always loved and respected US. I am sad. This is a very sad day."
I have been touched by your words, and would like just to add one more thing. As a MD who takes daily care of very sick patients, I am also more sad. The religious hype driving these neo-con people to ban potential useful tools like stem cells or - say - marijuana derivates to alleviate pain in terminal patients is making this world worst. And, tooooo bad to say, this happens in some EU contries too. Hope this share of shame can alleviate your pain, which is the same pain of a lot of people here on the other side of the great atlantic lake.

[A-wreck]

[QUOTE=Knockneed Man]Could not agree with you more... It goes to show that the majority of Americans are dumb and un-educated, or at the very least, completely mis-guided. QUOTE]

maybe you should use the words lazy or worthless.........
If more people 18-24 voted kerry could possibly have won.....so feel free to call lazy democrats lazy.

The majority of people on this planet are dumb and uneducated...
If you needed an election to tell you that, or to prove that argument, then you wasted a lot of time.....you could have just opened the newspaper.

It would be interesting to see the amount of registered dems that voted vs. the number of registered repubs that voted......that may show dems being stupid and dumb..or I mean lazy....then what?

[Crinkle]

What i don't understand is that the majority of Bush votes were from people that considered MORAL VALUES thier main issue. Also most of bush votes from women (hehe). How are Moral Values more important than Social security robberies? more important than be deceiptful about Iraq and WMD? more important than outsourcing jobs? more important than health care reform?

ah crap sorry to rant, just was looking foward to change instead of 4 more of the same. If things continue to slide, how long will it take to reverse all of this??

[KevinDineen]

Your self loathing is pathetic. Crying like a little girl...

My tears are for you, too, my friend. My tears are for America. This is not sour grapes; I don't route for politicians as if they were a sports team. I honestly fear for the future. The war with Iran will be our most costly yet. That's not a typo.

[boobookitty]

KD, Altagirl, I'm with ya. It blows me away how people have begun to overlook and/or overtake the personal freedoms that this country has stood for from it's beginning. Not only am I sad and embarrassed that we have an arrogant and imperialist government in Washington, but I'm also embarrassed and sad that 11 states have voted to ban gay marriage, and many, including UT, to ban domestic and civil unions. What kind of example are we? It's becoming harder to fool ourselves into thinking that this truly is a free country.

[The AD]

It really depresses me. The anti-gay amendments depress me too. Why, in the land of "religious freedom" do we need to enforce religious beliefs on people?

I don't know. I really don't see how gay marriage affects non-gays one bit.

[splat]

May the Republican revelers proclaim their hallowed victory:

" I voted for George Bush. I was a diehard supporter of the biggest ripoff of the American people in history. I willingly admit my responsibility for the theft of my country's future - the transfer of social security savings into the pockets of Wall Street scam artists, the alienation of the rest of a world which doesn't exist because I've never been there, the degradation of education to unprecedented lows (except, of course, for the rich), the enslavement of the lower class by the wealthy (even if I'm not wealthy), and the demise of basic health care. Victory, poverty and pestilence for all."

Because it was morally correct.

[boobookitty]

I don't know. I really don't see how gay marriage affects non-gays one bit.

It doesn't. But attached to the gay marriage ban in UT is also a paragraph about domestic and civil unions. So when all the Mos voted to ban gay marriage, they also voted that heterosexual couples who are not married cannot gain access to the legal rights of married couples. Further defined: If I have a boyfriend who is terminally ill, and he and I want to be able to handle his financial, insurance, or other affairs for him because he has no other family to do so, I basically can't. At least not without a whole mess of legal procedings that married couples don't have to deal with.

[1080Rider]

This thread fucking sucks!!! Delete this bullshit now. Life isn't over. All this "the sky is falling," "this is the most important election ever," blah, blah, blah, is really pathetic. Fucking get out and do something to change it if you don't like it. Bush is a dipshit but slightly less of a dipshit than Kerry. The country saw this and voted. Get over it. I had a hard time looking at that cigar smoking, cow fucker Clinton for eight years but I didn't shoot myself over it.