Michael Moore

[bagtagley]

Not supposed to be a political thread, but I guess that's hard to avoid when talking about this person. Anyway, we went and saw him speak last night at a small college near here. It was pretty cool. We got there early, so we had 3rd row seats. The funniest part of the night had to be the Bush supporters. There were protesters at the entrance and a whole slew of them came in for the speech.

There are a couple things that baffled me about the protesters. First, what's the point? Is there a more liberal congingent in the country than a large group of people going to see Michael Moore? Second, what's the fucking point?! There were at least 30 of them in the auditorium chanting and waving signs. At 5 bucks a pop, that's $150 they've spent collectively to support Moore, for no real reason but to be singled out and made fun of by the man himself. That, by the way, might have been the highlight of the evening. They were asked to leave if they didn't stop chanting while he spoke, so a bunch of them left. As they were walking out the door, Moore held up a stack of papers and said that he had a bunch of enlistment forms for them if they were interested...none of the were. A bunch of them stayed, but they puttered out pretty quickly. I guess you can only scream and yell for so long. This is another thing that baffles me. They were screaming at Kerry supporters, flipping them off and getting extremely agressive. Is this what protesting in this country has come to? Wasting everybodies time just so you can get angry and try to start fights with people?

I'll spare you the details of the speech, but I wanted to mention the Christian Coalition that also showed up. As soon as he started they stood up, held hands and started saying the lord's prayer. He just said it along with them, completely taking their fire. They stood up and walked out...very interesting. Not sure what their message or point was.

Anyway, I don't agree with everything he says or does, but I really enjoyed this event. I guess it helps to be surrounded by like-minded people, listening to like-minded speakers. It gives you a sense that we're not totally fucked.

[glademaster]

Nice. I'm going to see him at Lehigh University tomorrow night. Sounds like it'll be fun. Speaking of which, will any maggots be in attendence tomorrow night?

[Jumper Bones]

you guys flock to hear this guy speak like soldiers march off to the barber for another haircut.

[Buster Highmen]

you guys flock to hear this guy speak like soldiers march off to the barber for another haircut.

What __is__ your problem today?

[optics]

What __is__ your problem today?

Sounds like a bad haircut.

[skier666]

Why when I see or hear the name Michael Moore all I think about is double cheeseburgers and chili-dogs?

[Greydon Clark]

Why when I see or hear the name Michael Moore all I think about is double cheeseburgers and chili-dogs?

He’s a low-carb man too.

[mr_gyptian]

"They were screaming at Kerry supporters, flipping them off and getting extremely agressive. Is this what protesting in this country has come to? Wasting everybodies time just so you can get angry and try to start fights with people?" -BTgly


Obviously I can't figure out why the hell you or anyone would go to see Michael Moore's drivel show. However the behavior you describe pales in comparison.

to this:

http://www.vaildaily.com/apps/pbcs.d...FRONTPAGE&rs=2

and this:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...42harris1.html



and this:

http://www.channel3000.com/news/3776992/detail.html

finally this:

http://www.wbir.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=20241



It is people like Michael Moore that are to blame for this. John Kerry will lose because of acts like these. The party of peace!!

Not against us, just on the other side.

[schuss]

not really, the repubs are typically much nastier (at least in my area). Stolen signs, vandalized signs, vandalized cars, jamming phones, distributing false literature, organized election fraud, shall I go on? I'm glad there are a few nasty dems out there, gives some of the a-holes what they deserve.

(note: I don't think all repubs are a-holes, but I think anyone who supports the current administration without serious misgivings is. Even my republiroomie isn't happy about voting for him)

[Blurred]

What __is__ your problem today?

Here's the problem with the libs on this board. If you disagree with their LIE, then they take it as as an insult. Of course, why would you disagree with a rich American like Michael Moore? I mean his documentary wasn't fiction, was it???















If you're too blind to see that he has to put out fictional propaganda to prove his point, how really lost are you? (VERY)

[maddog]

If those republican protesters at Moore's event had been democrats at a Bush event, they would have handcuffed and taken to jail. Ain't fascism cool?

[Dr. Gaper]

Fuck Michael Moore. He blew up Team America headquarters!!

http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/paro..._white_911.jpg

[Jumper Bones]

If those republican protesters at Moore's event had been democrats at a Bush event, they would have handcuffed and taken to jail. Ain't fascism cool?

yeah, it's because Bush is the President, and Moore is not.

If Moore were President and the same republicans came to protest, they'd be arrested too. That's the police departments doing their jobs. It has nothing to do with political persuasion.

Buster, to explain and elaborate on my comment...there's an adage: When does a good Soldier (or Airman, or Marine, or Sailor, etc...) need a haircut? Answer - never - he always has one.

Hence the whole haircut reference - soldiers are ALWAYS going to the damned barber. And believe me, it sucks - costs me 40 bucks a month. But the barbers love it...

I made my comment because the left on this board eat Moore's shit up, and pay for his stuff at every opportunity. Do you think he's doing all of this out of the goodness of his heart, or the strength of his convictions? No, because if so, Moore would have spent his millions ensuring that "Fahrenheit 911" was all over prime-time TV like that fucker Ross Perot was with his boring-ass charts and graphs. Instead, he went to movie theaters, which people have to PAY to go to or rent, and does a speaking tour which people have to PAY to go to. It's genius - he feeds off of people's anger for his personal gain!!! He's like Jerry Springer.

If he really wanted to influence the election and bring his point to everyone like he claims he does, then his message would be broadcasted freely across an as openly-viewed medium as possible. And don't give me any "vast right-wing conspiracy, Sinclair Broadcasting won't let them" crap - if you pay enough, you can get damned near anything on the airwaves (or at the very least, cable). This dude's a millionaire. He has a significant commercial interest in all this and people follow him like lemmings to the sea. I guess disgruntlement (and in the case of some democrats who still can't get over their LOSS in 2000) and denial will make you do some strange things.

I didn't insult the man or inject any of my personal opinions on him in my first post. Thank you for sticking up for me blurred, I appreciate that.

And Optics, you're a funny bastard, how'd you know about my bad haircut...

[vertigo]

Originally Posted by mr_gyptian:
However the behavior you describe pales in comparison.
to this:
http://www.vaildaily.com/apps/pbcs.d...FRONTPAGE&rs=2
and this:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...42harris1.html
and this:
http://www.channel3000.com/news/3776992/detail.html
finally this:
http://www.wbir.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=20241

and the behaviour you describe pales in comparison to this:

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-imag...4/05/07/13.jpg

and this:
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-imag.../10/iraq15.jpg

and this:

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-imag...8/20/shia5.jpg

and this:

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-imag...8/20/shia1.jpg

[bad_roo]

Moore's writing and film making is skewed, biased, disingenuous and frequently juvenile but rarely wrong. This is a man who knows that whatever he writes is going to be put through a legal wringer in the search for untruths. You don't think the Republican party would absolutely revel in slapping him with a libel case?

While you can accuse Moore of being a propagandist and a self publicist, you're in denial if you claim his work is fiction.

[Blurred]

While you can accuse Moore of being a propagandist and a self publicist, you're in denial if you claim his work is fiction.

Uh, he himself has acknowledged that 9-11 is fiction, not a documentary. (that's prolly how he avoids the libel thing) Whelk bukkake all over you now.

[watersnowdirt]

yeah, it's because Bush is the President, and Moore is not.

If Moore were President and the same republicans came to protest, they'd be arrested too. That's the police departments doing their jobs. It has nothing to do with political persuasion.
:

Can you explain this a bit more? I've got to be misunderstanding you.

[PlayHarder]

Uh, he himself has acknowledged that 9-11 is fiction, not a documentary. (that's prolly how he avoids the libel thing) Whelk bukkake all over you now.

Uhhh, Blurred - if he acknowledges that it's fiction, why does his website have a breakdown backing up his facts:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-films/f911reader/

BTW, I'm not arguing either side - just like to see facts used in arguments.

[basom]

Uhhh, Blurred - if he acknowledges that it's fiction, why does his website have a breakdown backing up his facts:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-films/f911reader/

BTW, I'm not arguing either side - just like to see facts used in arguments.

i'm almost certain that blurred didn't even watch the film.

[bagtagley]

The only people I've heard complain about F 911 being a total farse are the people who haven't seen it. The repubs I know that have seen it don't try to pawn it off as being lies. They just don't talk about it or they argue about those Facts not being indicative of a cause and effect relationship.

[Angry Whelk]

Whelk bukkake all over you now.

again, blurred is drown. no respect he shows for Whelk, and he is die. he thinks he can administer bukkake drown. stupid cracker, he has no power, his brain is pollute.

shinjuku, MOTHERFUCKER!

[Blurred]

again, blurred is drown. no respect he shows for Whelk, and he is die. he thinks he can administer bukkake drown. stupid cracker, he has no power, his brain is pollute.

shinjuku, MOTHERFUCKER!

Whoa!! Good thing I had my helmet on!!

[Schmear]

No, because if so, Moore would have spent his millions ensuring that "Fahrenheit 911" was all over prime-time TV like that fucker Ross Perot was with his boring-ass charts and graphs. Instead, he went to movie theaters, which people have to PAY to go to or rent, and does a speaking tour which people have to PAY to go to. It's genius - he feeds off of people's anger for his personal gain!!! He's like Jerry Springer.

If he really wanted to influence the election and bring his point to everyone like he claims he does, then his message would be broadcasted freely across an as openly-viewed medium as possible.

I dunno about all this, Jetter. Moore is a filmmaker, not a philanthropist. All his previous releases went to theaters or film festivals. It makes sense that he'd do the same with Farenheit, regardless of his political or financial ambitions.

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