Replacement for a 2007 Seth (Alpental-PNW)

[Ski to Be]

I lost one of my 179 Seths on a powder day and had pretty much trashed them anyhow as my daily driver skis so I need your advise. I have 189 Pontoons as my powder ski & can arc them on the groomers & ski bumps fine but they suffer when it is icy. I also have this years BD Justice 185 that I use for touring & that ski is better on the ice but it is so they are not stable when I mach through chop. My Seths were right in between & I was really happy with them. I heard last years Fujas were the same ski. I ski fast & aggressive in all conditions & like quick skis that are stable as I ski a lot of trees & tight shoots. My friends that ski with me recommend the Dynastar XXl Pro Rider but I had a buddy that demoed them & told me they were not a good Alpental ski ( steep & tight trees & heavy snow). I am 6 ft 210 For what it is worth I like shorter skis for Alpental. If I lived in Whistler it may be different.
My question is do I get the Fujas & be done with it or is there another ski that is better that is similar that I am not aware of. I would prefer to pick up a year old model versus new as I don't need the latest greatest ski out. Also the Seths were twin tip & I don't really care about that feature.

Thanks for any input & yes I searched

[cooltsi]

Did you have the Pistol or the Vicious?

If it's the Pistol go to Tramdock now and grab a pair of Nancy's for $126.

[Ski to Be]

Vicious I guess I missed the tram

[skimaxpower]

generally...
2007 Seth = 2009 Fujas
2009 Fujas = 2010 Fujas (with the addition of Rocker)
2010 Seth = 2011 Fujas

With the heavy snow we get in the PNW, you would def benefit from a rockered ski. The current model Fujas would be a great choice.

It is very diff from the Dynastars your friends like. The XXL is fantastic, but it's a stiff, flat tailed, old man ski with a hybrid sandwich/cap construction. (ie: I sell it to ski patrollers all the time.)

The Fujas is a twin, with rocker, sandwich construction, and similar dimensions ot your old Seths. It's medium flexing, and forgiving if you straightline the bumps. (ie: It's sold mainly to high school kids who can't afford the Seths that would really impress their friends.)

NOTE: K2 is very strange with lengths. They don't count the length of the tail in the Fujas' dimensions, so a 179 Fujas actually = approx 185cm

[Ski to Be]

The Fujas is a twin, with rocker, sandwich construction, and similar dimensions ot your old Seths. It's medium flexing, and forgiving if you straightline the bumps. (ie: It's sold mainly to high school kids who can't afford the Seths that would really impress their friends.)

Thanks
Are the newr Fujas cheaper or inferior to the Seths as you imply? I don't ski switch too often so I don't care about the twin tips. I just really liked how that (07 Vicious) ski performed versatility wise

[m01766]

I'm no expert but it looks like the fujas are different than the seths. I did a little looking around since i have some 08 seths that get a lot of use and I worry about what to replace them with once they inevitably die. Anyway the thing that stood out most is they claim a bidirectional sidecut on the fujas for better switch turning but the seths definitely had a directional progressive sidecut going on. Like I said I'm no expert and I haven't ski'd the fujas but they don't sound as similar as you make them out to be. has anyone actually ski'd both and confirm/deny how similar they are?

[dingjong]

You get the 186 Lhasa's, mang, and be happy!

[Ski to Be]

I'm no expert but it looks like the fujas are different than the seths. I did a little looking around since i have some 08 seths that get a lot of use and I worry about what to replace them with once they inevitably die. Anyway the thing that stood out most is they claim a bidirectional sidecut on the fujas for better switch turning but the seths definitely had a directional progressive sidecut going on. Like I said I'm no expert and I haven't ski'd the fujas but they don't sound as similar as you make them out to be. has anyone actually ski'd both and confirm/deny how similar they are?

I was leaning towards 09/10 Fujas till your post gave me pause. I just wanted the super versatility in all conditions that the Seth Vicious gave me

[Ski to Be]

You get the 186 Lhasa's, mang, and be happy!

The turn radius on the Lhasa is a lot longer then the Fujas or the Seths & My BD Justice is really close in size. I am sure it is a great ski though.

[Ski to Be]

generally...
2007 Seth = 2009 Fujas
2009 Fujas = 2010 Fujas (with the addition of Rocker)
2010 Seth = 2011 Fujas

So you are saying the 2007 =2010 Fujas only rockered. I looked at the specs & the 2007 Seth was 130/98/118 21m radius turn & the 2010 Fujas 125/95/120. Close but not the same. Have you skied both?

[Chowda]

I'd say look at this year's Rossi S3, unless you're completely opposed to buying a current model.

[elephant_snot]

what about this years obsethed? or if you really want a great ski tree that can still kill it in crud/ groomers the Armada JJ.

[skimaxpower]

So you are saying the 2007 =2010 Fujas only rockered. I looked at the specs & the 2007 Seth was 130/98/118 21m radius turn & the 2010 Fujas 125/95/120. Close but not the same.

Yes, basically: close, but not the same.

Have you skied both?

Yes. Skied the Seths from 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010. Every year they seem to get a bit wider, and a bit more rocker. They continue to feature: soft flex, forgiving tip, and obnoxious graphix.

I've skied the Fujas from 2009 and 2010. Very similar, but this year is prettier, and has a tad more rocker, I think.

I was leaning towards 09/10 Fujas till your post gave me pause. I just wanted the super versatility in all conditions that the Seth Vicious gave me

They're both similar to your old Seths. I think this year is better because it seems to have more rocker. If you can find a good deal, you'll be happy either way.

[iscariot]

Yes, basically: close, but not the same. Yes. Skied the Seths from 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010. Every year they seem to get a bit wider, and a bit more rocker. They continue to feature: soft flex, forgiving tip, and obnoxious graphix.

I've skied the Fujas from 2009 and 2010. Very similar, but this year is prettier, and has a tad more rocker, I think.

They're both similar to your old Seths. I think this year is better because it seems to have more rocker. If you can find a good deal, you'll be happy either way.

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[Ski to Be]

Thanks I think I will go with this years Fujas. I can't seem to find anything below $569 online. I will wait until March & try to find a deal then as it is not really snowing anyway. I will be down in Utah second week of March & would prefer to take my Pontoons but the way this winter is going I would be safer with the Fujas. Thanks for the tips