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    Jon Stewart is the MANG!!

    hOLY sHIT. John Stewart was just on CNN's Crossfire and totally bitched them out. It took Tucker Carlson about 4 questions to realize that he wasn't kidding when he was blaming these idiot shows for worsening the national discourse.

    They will NEVER air that segment again, probably. I hope to find a tape of it soon, then I'll see what I can do to post some vid.

    I'm stunned. he actually said what all of us think - that Crossfire, Hannity/Colmes, et al. SUCK.
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    Stewart is a genious!! - He speaks the truth - and people think he's being funny... until they think about it for a minute....

    My 90 year-old Mom calls Stewart... "This generations' Will Rogers" that's some high praise....
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    I was stunned too. He was dead fukkin serious. "I'm not your monkey"

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    Shit! I wish I could have seen that! John Stewart is a pimp genius!
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    JS: How old are you?

    TC: 34

    JS: ..and you still wear a bowtie?

    TC: ...

    JS: Now I'm not saying you're stupid, 'cause those things are hard to tie...

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    Tippster, where do you live. If you're on the EC maybe someone out West can record it if it's time shifted here.

    Edit: I just looked it up. Crossfire is on at 4:30 PST. So West Coast mags fire up your VCRs and TiVos.
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    Somebody find it! I looooove JS...the man makes sense.
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    we must find a copy of this, but now I have work. so I leave it to you all.

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    That's eastern time where it just aired.

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    Holy crap! I wanna see that!

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    Arty - I'm at the president's doorstep - Washington, DC

    The show aired on CNN at 4:30pm Eastern "Crossfire." You Central, Mountain, and pacific mags HAVE to tape this. It's a moral imperative!!

    Paul Begala: What we are is a "Debate Show..."

    JS: Nononono... I wish you WERE a "Debate" show, but what you are is Partisan Hacks!

    Man, I've NEVER seen a host as pissed as Tucker Carlson.

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    Speaking of Hannity and Combs did anyone see the General Wes Clark interview after the debate. After Clark and Combs finished kissing Hannity attacked Clark. Clark held his own rather well I thought and even got in a shot at the end. He said "While John Kerry was playing hockey George Bush was a chearleader". I promptly busted out in laughter. All Hannity could do was ask Clark what he meant. They then went to commercial.

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    Did I miss it? I'm looking at the CNN listings as far as the Dish Network schedule goes out and I'm not seeing Crossfire...

    John Stewart kicks ass...
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    I was waiting for the transcript on cnn's website. I just went back to check if it was up. Surprise, surprise, they just yanked the blip on Stewart on the Crossfire page within the last 10 minutes.

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    Tivo programmed, thanks.
    Hannity takes "partisan hack" to another level. The guy is a frickin idiot, I can't believe people watch him.

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    Al Franken just gave JS a shout-out on Wolf Blitzer's show. The echoes begin....

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    Funny funny stuff.
    If you also listen closely when they cut to comercial break before they come back to questions from the audience Tucker mumbles something about Stewart being a lot more funny on his show, to which Stewart responds "And your just as big a Dick on yours"
    Great television.

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    The question is, will they rebroadcast it as it was originally aired or do they have a bunch of monkeys editing it as we type.
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    TiVO that!

    I f'ing can't stand those people.

    what time EST did it come on?
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    I wonder what stoked Stewart's ire. He is usually a very friendly guest on the talk show circuit. Plays a lot of verbal judo and is very self-deprecating. You never see him come at someone with guns blazing.

    Also, good article on Stewart in this month's Rolling Stone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_gyptian
    TiVO that!

    I f'ing can't stand those people.

    what time EST did it come on?
    Quoting myself for your edification:
    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster
    The show aired on CNN at 4:30pm Eastern "Crossfire." You Central, Mountain, and pacific mags HAVE to tape this. It's a moral imperative!!

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    i caught the tale end of that, i think i turned it on right before the bow tie comments. (and i am SLC mountain time here. . . so i donno if there is any hope to see it again. i think it was on at 3pm here, but maybe it was 2:30.

    it was great though, i wish i had seen the whole thing. js called their show theater and they couldn't take it. they tried to attack him, but he responds by saying....my show comes on after PUPPETS, YOU HOWEVER ARE ON CNN and have an obligation to be a real journalist. (those are not exact words, but it's what i remember)

    but i guess he was on because of his new book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx
    i caught the tale end of that, i think i turned it on right before the bow tie comments. (and i am SLC mountain time here. . . so i donno if there is any hope to see it again. i think it was on at 3pm here, but maybe it was 2:30.
    Dammit, dammit, dammit.... I was afraid of that.

    Somebody's gotta get a transcript!!!!
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    Wow! I just found this gem.

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../02/rs.00.html

    CNN RELIABLE SOURCES
    HOWARD KURTZ, HOST

    KURTZ: Jon Stewart, welcome.

    STEWART: Thank you, sir.

    KURTZ: We're on the verge of a big, momentous historic mid-term election. How excited are you personally?

    STEWART: Well, I think I reflect the feeling in the country, just tough to sit still, can't wait to get out and vote for whatever congressman is up there. Yeah, it's been real tough to get anybody interested in it. Apparently, there's a -- what's it called? -- a war looming.

    KURTZ: But if you watch television, you would think the election had been canceled. So has politics become too boring for the media, unless it's some juicy sex scandal or something like that?

    STEWART: I think the print media still probably covers it to the same extent that they would before. But yeah, you know, the 24-hour news cycle is the visual medium, so if they've got pictures of immigrants jumping off of a boat into the water, I guess that beats a Stump speech...

    KURTZ: Breaking news.

    STEWART: Yes, exactly, breaking news. Although, quite frankly, you guys broke it. I mean, let's face facts. I mean, breaking news -- the words breaking news I don't even think can be used any more.

    (CROSSTALK)

    KURTZ: ... they've been overused?

    STEWART: Well, during the sniper thing, they just left it up there. They just literally left up the "breaking news" graphic. And what's the difference between breaking news, by the way, and "news alert"? What is the difference between a news alert and breaking news?

    KURTZ: A news alert makes you think that there might be breaking news. Breaking news means that there actually is some sort of oozing thing called news.

    STEWART: Oh, OK.

    KURTZ: Do you think voters are turned off by these ads that say, "Joe Smith killed two of his business partners, can we trust him with our future"?

    STEWART: No, I think that's what people really look forward to.

    They look forward to that. They look forward to, "My opponent gave Hitler a piggy-back ride."

    Yes, I'm not exactly sure -- I assume that what the political strategists have figured out is very few people vote, and the people that do are the people who answer telemarketers' calls at dinner and actually talk.

    KURTZ: And perhaps the people who watch your show. You're going to be on live election night with...

    STEWART: People who watch our show don't vote.

    (LAUGHTER)

    I don't think.

    KURTZ: "Indecision 2000," live on election night...

    STEWART: We're probably not going to go with 2000. We're going to go with 2002. We're going to stick with the year that it is now.

    We're going live with all state coverage and all state results, and we're very excited about that. The people really need to get direct false numbers right away. We'll make our predictions probably as early as we can, and we hope to really give a full-on wrap up of everything that's happened.

    Are you guys going live that night?

    KURTZ: I don't know. Let me check with the producers.

    STEWART: CNN?

    KURTZ: It depends on what else is going on.

    STEWART: I was going to say.

    KURTZ: The other night on "The Daily Show" Senator John Edwards. Why would a guy who is, you know, clearly planning to run as president come on and answer your inane questions?

    STEWART: I'm a king maker. I'm an idol maker. People come on. I'm sort of the David Frost of the Comedy Central set.

    KURTZ: He did promise to reveal on your program whether he was going to run for president.

    STEWART: He did promise that.

    KURTZ: That would be a big scoop for you.

    STEWART: But you know what? People have lied to me on my program before.

    KURTZ: As an example of the kind of incisive political commentary that we can expect, let's take a look at a clip from a recent "The Daily Show."

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    STEWART: You've been out there talking to voters. What message do they have for Washington?

    UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jon, I'm hearing a lot of, "That sniper thing was so scary. What was up with that sniper? Were you scared of the sniper?"

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    KURTZ: What did you make of the sniper coverage? Were the media trying to scare people? (CROSSTALK)

    STEWART: I thought it was the media's finest hour, the sniper coverage.

    KURTZ: Finest hour?

    STEWART: Absolutely, by watching the 24-hour news networks, I learned that the sniper was an olive-skinned, white-black male -- men -- with ties to Son of Sam, al Qaeda, and was a military kid, playing video games, white, 17, maybe 40.

    KURTZ: They really nailed it, didn't they?

    STEWART: I thought they did great. And I thought it was really responsible to put them on.

    I thought CNN, MSNBC, FOX, did a great job putting on -- you know what they should've called the coverage, "You know what I heard?" and just have people randomly showing...

    (LAUGHTER)

    KURTZ: What should happen to all of these experts who came and filled the airwaves with all of these predictions that turned out to be completely and totally wrong?

    STEWART: Well, it's not their fault.

    KURTZ: It's not their fault?

    STEWART: No.

    KURTZ: Shouldn't they have to resign from the talking head society?

    STEWART: Shouldn't CNN have to pay a penalty for putting them on the air? You're Paulie Walnuts. You're vouching. You brought a guy in, and you put him on the air and you vouched. You said, "No, Tony, this guy, he's good people, he's credible." So whatever they say, I mean, they're called profilers.

    If you watched the coverage, you would have thought that that's what the police do, is they literally have two guys sort of almost like psychics sitting around going, "What do you think he is?" "I don't know, maybe he's white, maybe he's black. Maybe he's with al Qaeda, maybe he's Son of Sam."

    They're actually following real leads. I don't understand the idea of -- you know I heard a guy talking -- actually on your show -- saying, "Well, the public really wanted information. They had a real thirst for information. So because we didn't really have that much information, we had to just speculate."

    KURTZ: We made it up. STEWART: Right. Which seems insane. That's like saying, "You know, the kids were real thirsty, and we didn't have any water, so we just gave them beer, because we figured that would work."

    (LAUGHTER)

    KURTZ: Well, you're right. The cable folks who put these folks in front of the camera have to bear some of the responsibility.

    STEWART: Not some, all.

    KURTZ: All right.

    STEWART: Not some. They bear all of the responsibility. You cannot -- I'm not even sure what the reasoning was behind just putting people on who didn't know anything.

    I mean, you know what was my favorite part was the hand wringing. People would do this, "Now, I know that we're not supposed to speculate, you know, obviously, people are nervous and it would be irresponsible to inflame passions by speculating, seriously, though, do you think it's terrorism?"

    I mean, it was...

    KURTZ: Well, my favorite part was the questions where the anchors would say, "Do you think he will strike again, and where would that be? And would it be on a Tuesday, because he hasn't really done it on a Tuesday?"

    STEWART: Unless you know the guy's name, don't say anything. Unless you have information, rather than speculating -- unless you could say, like, "Oh, the sniper? Yes, it's John Muhammad, I think." Unless you know that, shut up, say nothing.

    (LAUGHTER)

    (cont'd page 2)
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    Transcript is up

    Edit: Heh!
    Last edited by trainnvain; 10-15-2004 at 04:28 PM.

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