Mt. Adams Ski Resort

[BanditXXX]

The Yakima Indians are planning on a resort. Sweet!!

[Viva]

This topic came up a few weeks ago. Your feelings on an Adams ski area aren't harmonious with how many of us feel.

[Game Over]

This topic came up a few weeks ago. Your feelings on an Adams ski area aren't harmonious with how many of us feel.

...and that is NOT ok.

[Viva]

...and that is NOT ok.

Just throwing the topic back on the table for discussion.

[bdog]

Quite a few years ago the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs Attempted to put a ski area on Mt. Jefferson. Ultimately it fell through. I am not so sure the same fate doesn't await an attempt on Mt. Adams. similar situation with only part of the mountain belonging to the tribes. I think a ski area there is a bad idea. But, that is just me.

[Lynx]

could they run a summer op there? maybe a ski area on adams is a bad idea, i don't know much about themountain or that area, but someone needs to put timberline in their place.

[BanditXXX]

This is just what the state of Washington needs. A full blown ski resort with all the amenities. Adams is huge . There is room for all. Let the Yakima Indians put in there resort on the southeast side and leave the climbing routes on the north, northeast, northwest, west, south west and south sides for the backcountry folk. I think this is a good plan and can serve all . I think it is a exciting idea that needs to go through.

[Game Over]

Quite a few years ago the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs Attempted to put a ski area on Mt. Jefferson. Ultimately it fell through. I am not so sure the same fate doesn't await an attempt on Mt. Adams. similar situation with only part of the mountain belonging to the tribes. I think a ski area there is a bad idea. But, that is just me.

They are still in talks, a good friends dad is a laywer for the tribe.

[char]

I personally think that putting a ski resort on Mt Adams is a bad idea. Asthetically, spiritually, etc, etc.

That said, I can see why the Yakama Indians are considering the proposal. A project like this would not only provide jobs, but would also provide money badly needed for social programs on the reservation.

Having just been there this weekend, I got the impression that the project won't happen because that particular area of the reservation is very sacred to the tribe and is currently off limits to non-tribal members. (90% of the reservation is off-limits.)

[cj001f]

This is just what the state of Washington needs. A full blown ski resort with all the amenities. Adams is huge . There is room for all. Let the Yakima Indians put in there resort on the southeast side and leave the climbing routes on the north, northeast, northwest, west, south west and south sides for the backcountry folk. I think this is a good plan and can serve all . I think it is a exciting idea that needs to go through.

There's awesome BC skiing on Adams. As a "full blown ski resort with all the amenities" it's still missing one thing : Terrain. Unless you think they are going to allow skiing on a glacier in the US

[iceman]

Just testing this time warp thing we're in here. Currently it is 11:15 AM.

Because of the time warp, this reply should show up over BanditXXX and Roo's posts.

edit: Yup, very weird.

[Shredhead]

Will there be a casino?

If they want to make any money there would need to be one. Ski areas, especially new ones, would be hard press to turn a profit without selling real estate.

[cj001f]

The last time I checked, they have glacier skiing on Mt Hood. Palmer Galcier.

Palmer's a Snowfield

[Viva]

Seriously, who's going to go? It's going to be a three hour drive from Portland to any putative Adams-based ski area and for terrain that's no better than Hood or Bachelor (Batchy's also a three hour drive from PDX). Seattle folks would have an even longer drive and mucho excellent skiing closer by.

The problem is that the Yakima nation is out in the toolies and they're going to have to do some major developing (like build a town, for starters) to get people to come out there.

[Game Over]

There's awesome BC skiing on Adams. As a "full blown ski resort with all the amenities" it's still missing one thing : Terrain. Unless you think they are going to allow skiing on a glacier in the US

I think you are forgetting one major thing here, tribal land is not the US.

[forest gump]it's whole nother country[forest]

[BanditXXX]

There's awesome BC skiing on Adams. As a "full blown ski resort with all the amenities" it's still missing one thing : Terrain. Unless you think they are going to allow skiing on a glacier in the US

The last time I checked, they have glacier skiing on Mt Hood. Palmer Galcier. This is the best idea I've heard in years. Mt Adams has such a huge land mass, that the ski resort would only occupy a fraction, and the backcountry people would still have their chunk of mountain to play on. I like the idea of a minority group becoming economically viable and not a burden on our welfare rolls. I know and went to school personally with members of The Puyallup Indian Tribe. They are now one of the largest employers in Pierce County. They donate millions of dollars for childrens programs, city programs and have added tremendously to the economy. Bring on the resort , please!

[bad_roo]

Will there be a casino?

[The AD]

Mt Adams has such a huge land mass, that the ski resort would only occupy a fraction

You could say the same thing about drilling in the ANWR, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

[AntiSoCalSkier]

The last time I checked, they have glacier skiing on Mt Hood. Palmer Galcier.

Palmer is a snowfield, NOT a glacier. There's a pretty big difference.

I'm not sure I like the idea of building a ski resort on Adams, however, I have to say that I do like the fact that they're thinking outside the casino box.

[dubu]

How come is it that when people go to Switzerland they always comment how pristine and beautiful it is. But when we want to build the 7th ski resort is the whole Washington cascade range we are destroying the environment?.. . .

hmm..

just a thought..

[cj001f]

How come is it that when people go to Switzerland they always comment how pristine and beautiful it is. But when we want to build the 7th ski resort is the whole Washington cascade range we are destroying the environment?.. . .

hmm..

just a thought..

A dumb one. I've never heard anyone extoll the wilderness qualities of the Alps - people like them because they are easily accesible.

Many people like the wilderness quality of mountains in North America and aim to protect it.

[The AD]

How come is it that when people go to Switzerland they always comment how pristine and beautiful it is. But when we want to build the 7th ski resort is the whole Washington cascade range we are destroying the environment?

Many of the valleys with the ski resorts in CH are already developed, and have been for centuries, so it probably isn't really pristine at all. In any event, I don't hear about a lot of previously undeveloped land in Western Europe being turned into new ski areas.

Stringing a few chairlifts on Mt. Adams, and cutting a few trails below the treeline will be an environmental impact, but maybe tolerable. However, that's the tip of the iceberg. If you develop a major ski resort you also need to cut new roads, put down massive parking lots, build condos, etc. This is the kind of thing I don't really think we need more of.

[BanditXXX]

Many of the valleys with the ski resorts in CH are already developed, and have been for centuries, so it probably isn't really pristine at all. In any event, I don't hear about a lot of previously undeveloped land in Western Europe being turned into new ski areas.

Stringing a few chairlifts on Mt. Adams, and cutting a few trails below the treeline will be an environmental impact, but maybe tolerable. However, that's the tip of the iceberg. If you develop a major ski resort you also need to cut new roads, put down massive parking lots, build condos, etc. This is the kind of thing I don't really think we need more of.

We don't have any major ski resort. Frankly, I'm tired of driving to Whistler for that destination type resort, putting up with the Canadians liberal bashing of the US, and paying inflated prices even with the exchange rate in our favor. Mt Adams would be the perfect blend of destination resort, but without that cramped feeling. Do you think someone might notice a few skiers on the SE side of Adams as they are climbing the Northridge? No way. There is enough mountain there for everyone to enjoy. If Washington doesn't do anything to make an effort to go forward with a major resort, then we're going to be left in the dust.

[The AD]

putting up with the Canadians liberal bashing of the US

Oh give me a fuckin break. I've been to Canada many times and the people there have never been anything but friendly.

Back on topic, though, I'll admit I'm a hypocrite on this. I've put my share of dollars into the big money-grubbing resorts such as Vail and W/B. I just think there are enough now. We don't need to continue to develop more.

[Zeedashbo]

Many of the valleys with the ski resorts in CH are already developed, and have been for centuries, so it probably isn't really pristine at all. In any event, I don't hear about a lot of previously undeveloped land in Western Europe being turned into new ski areas.
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because there is no undeveloped land in western europe. i don't think it would be a bad thing. shit, they could probably do a really good job of setting it up environmentally. but the terrain will probably suck. and who needs sucky terrain. let's start an initiative to put a tram up to sunrise on mt. rainier. it would cut down on pollution from cars, and we could ski epic b/c in the winter.