Hockey Fans: Players VS Owners

[Foxman]

First of all, Hello to all, This is my first post.... so please excuse any newby screw ups I do.... feel free to give me the house rules...

My question...

Curious of your opinions on the hockey lockout...

Players VS Owners....

Many like to blame the owners... fact is, they are willing to at least approach the table, the players are not. So if you wont even try and talk you are the hindering wheel.

However the owners created this mess themselves with their idiotic spending... why should the players suffer....

then again the entry level average salary is 1.8 million.... and in NFL its between 250-350k.....

So whos side do you take?????

or are they both at blame???

[gincognito]

Psst...while I do admit to an interest in the topic at hand (as will many others I am sure), it's generally a good idea for a first post on skiing/snowboarding message board to be somewhat related to skiing and/or snowboarding. A pretty picture usually goes over well. After that, it's generally wide open.

Sick and ashamed and happy (and probably won't really miss hockey until December or January (at which point I'll blame everyone - including the folks who dish out way too much money for a mediocre product)),
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[KevinDineen]

What I'd like to know is where's the retirement plan for a 5'11" scrapper with above average goal scoring and penalty minutes, but who never played for a contender. I mean, you give you heart and soul, and for what? To retire with the Blue Jackets? What kind of name is that, anyway?

[A-wreck]

my friends grandma has a place on the water in canada.....her neighbor is bob bogner(sp?) of the avalanche...............he is one of the players who is on the comitte to deal with the owners................
I had some beers with him the day after he got back from the negotiations in Toronto................
he gave me the impression that the owners don't want to talk.......I mean isn't that what a lockout is? the owners are essentially saying eff U we don't want to talk.......


he assured us they will be playing in January

[mr_gyptian]

Look at it this way.

The hockey owners are not in this to make money, in fact most of them barely break even as far as their ownership is concerned.

For the hockey players it is their livelihood. Most of them have no Plan B.

The owners will win.


but as with all sporting labor disputes. the fans will lose.

[snorkeldeep]

theyre all fucking nuts. the league does a bad job promoting the game, they dont market well to fans, no one watches, there is no tv deal, the players think the owners are lying (theyre not), the owners cant afford the players (they cant). everyone loses, including fans. i just have one thing to say - what the fuck?

[sea2ski]

So I guess your question is who do I blame?

The guys who are paid millions to play a sport which I played for 15 years for free because it was fun or their bosses who are so eager to win that they are willing to collectively pay their players more than they recieve in television fees, merchandizing and ticket sales.

I'd say they both need a reality check and they deserve each other. Maybe they both need to go talk with people who were working at dot coms after the bubble burst to see what happens to business models that don't work.

[PlayHarder]

but as with all sporting labor disputes. the fans will lose.

Werd.

Let's make it easy - just blame Bettman.