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    Your thoughts are right on, bro, but the one thing holding most of us back from 'living' all the time is paying the bills. Once that starts, it never stops. A real grumpy old man coworker of mine says, 'you gotta feed the bulldog.'

    The key, as has been mentioned earlier, is finding something you like to do for a living. Odds are, it won't involve getting paid to go heli skiing all day, but as long as you can get out of bed in the morning and not dread your work day, you have alot of people beat. Plus, the workaday world is what makes the escapes from it, the leaving work early to go ride singletrack, the calling in sick when it dumps, so great. Work almost enhances those things since it provides you with a larger contrast and a greater hunger to make the most of your free time. Keep in mind that I'm saying this as I wrap up what was perhaps the worst day of my career.

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    I, I don’t care if they, if they lay me off either, because I, I told Bill that if he moves my desk one more time, then, then I’m quitting. I’m going to quit. And I told Dom too because they’ve moved my desk four times. I used to be by the window, where I could see the squirrels and they were merry. But then they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline. They have my staples for the Boston and I kept the staples from the Swingline stapler.
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    You know what I tell the kids in this world, find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life. If you don't you'll be miserable for the rest of your life. I pretty much have to work to some extent in my life, after a week of vacation I'm looking forward to going to back to work, but I truly enjoy what I do. Of course I still at times do calculus for fun at night before I go to sleep, so maybe I'm different than most.

    Really if you're not happy with your life, you better do something about it, and the sooner the better.


    edit: ditto what hj and ws said

    I'm very impressed with the parents out there sacrificing it for the kids, it's noble to live your life and sacrifice for someone else, unselfish and for that you guys should be rewarded!!

    Philosophy can be a tricky thing, it's worthwhile to examine your life constantly, but doing too much can drive a man to insanity. Find a personal philosophy that works for YOU and live it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milton
    I, I don’t care if they, if they lay me off either, because I, I told Bill that if he moves my desk one more time, then, then I’m quitting. I’m going to quit. And I told Dom too because they’ve moved my desk four times. I used to be by the window, where I could see the squirrels and they were merry. But then they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline. They have my staples for the Boston and I kept the staples from the Swingline stapler.
    LOL!! Thanks for my new signature.

    This site is pretty cool too:
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    People seem to like referring me to Amazon... first for a book of jokes and now for self-enlightenment .

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    [QUOTE=Ireallyliketoski]You know what I tell the kids in this world, find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life. QUOTE]


    What an unbelievable cliche. This is so easy for someone with that job to say. I wish I had that option. I am a recent college grad who cant get a job in my field bc the job market is awful. I was forced to take a job that I hate. I have spent the summer living in personal hell just so I can go back to the mtns for the winter. If I could find a job I love...man that would be just dandy...but that dream is dead and I dont think we should be telling our kids this is realistically possible for the majority

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    [QUOTE=What an unbelievable cliche. This is so easy for someone with that job to say. I wish I had that option. [/QUOTE]

    Maybe the problem is that you want a job doing what you love, and you want to be paid well to do it, and you want to be able to do it where and when you want. Perhaps the quote should include 'Choose 2 of the above"

    So, why can't you get a job in your field, or is it that you can but the pay sucks? Or do you would have to move to somewhere you don't want to live.

    eldereldo

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    [QUOTE=eldereldo]
    Quote Originally Posted by What an unbelievable cliche. This is so easy for someone with that job to say. I wish I had that option. [/QUOTE

    Maybe the problem is that you want a job doing what you love, and you want to be paid well to do it, and you want to be able to do it where and when you want. Perhaps the quote should include 'Choose 2 of the above"

    So, why can't you get a job in your field, or is it that you can but the pay sucks? Or do you would have to move to somewhere you don't want to live.

    eldereldo

    I have found that finding an entry level job is difficult in itself, let alone one I like or love. The field I am trying to get into is advertising and my option at this point is to take a job in NYC that starts out at around 28,000. I would not say I love advertising by any means, this is just where my experiece is and thus gives me the best chance to find a job in this very competive job market. Your Choose 2 idea is sort of something I went through in my head this summer. I put the job search on hold in order to get my priorities in order. Since finding that great job did not work out perfectly at first I decided I might as well be where I want to be (near the mtns)...and hope the job thing works out at a later date. I am cautiously optomistic that I will find a job I love, I am currently just a bit disenfranchised with the system and agree the the "daily grind is bull shit"

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    It always irritates me when people that are no longer in school say how easy and fun school was and how they'd kill to go back and how its the best time of your life back blah blah.


    It's all relative, really. When your in highschool, you have never experienced anything outside of highschool, so when you fail 3 tests on one day because some horrible highschool thing happened, thats about as bad as it gets. At that point in your life, it doesnt get much worse, and you don't understand how much worse it can and will get. And when a bunch of adults start telling you that you have it easy, you get pretty pissed, and don't really know what to think.

    Then when you're 30 and have a job and are busting your balls trying to make ends meet, thats the worst that it gets. Looking back on highschool at that point in your life, failing 3 tests and getting dumped by some girl doesn't really seem that bad....

    Does that make any sense?

    but back to the original point....I have to say that this place, TGR, has definitely helped me figure out a lot about my life, and life in general. I've read stories of maggots that follow their dreams and never regret it, and have read stories of maggots that say they regret never following their dreams and sacraficing everything they had just to make an extra buck. Thanks to this place, I've realized my dreams and some of my goals for my life, and I now have more direction in my life, I kinda know what I'm aiming for. I appreciate the small things and live for the moment more than I ever did before, and it's awesome. I really have only this place to thank for that. I know it sounds ridiculous, but whatever.

    enough rambling
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelPSUer
    I have found that finding an entry level job is difficult in itself, let alone one I like or love. The field I am trying to get into is advertising and my option at this point is to take a job in NYC that starts out at around 28,000. I would not say I love advertising by any means, this is just where my experiece is and thus gives me the best chance to find a job in this very competive job market. Your Choose 2 idea is sort of something I went through in my head this summer. I put the job search on hold in order to get my priorities in order. Since finding that great job did not work out perfectly at first I decided I might as well be where I want to be (near the mtns)...and hope the job thing works out at a later date. I am cautiously optomistic that I will find a job I love, I am currently just a bit disenfranchised with the system and agree the the "daily grind is bull shit"
    I just want the best for you SteelPSUer, nothing happens overnight, I graduated college in 98, and worked several jobs that I didn't love (but were somewhat related to my 'field'), but persisted in pursuing the job I knew I wanted. Just this year I finally landed my dream job, that's 6 years out of college. But now I'm on the right track and for the next 30 years that I have to work I'll be doing something that I love doing. So don't give up man, hang in there. But if you don't really love advertising, maybe that's part of the problem, you really need to find something that you are passionate about, it's tough to sell yourself if you don't love the field and can't speak enthusiastically about it. So figure out what you love to do, and go and do it, someone might even pay you for it.

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    I finally decided what I wanted to do when I was 20, went back to school and turned a hobby with computers into a career. Then I had to move from Calgary to Toronto to find a job that barely paid enough to pay the rent and food. Spent a couple of years proving that I was really good at what I did (probably because I really liked it) and started to make some decent money.

    Then moved back to Calgary after finding a company who needed my skills now that I had some experience. Spent to many years not going anywhere in a company that was badly managed but it was a steady pay cheque and comfortable. Unfortunately the enviroment started to wear on me and my enthusiasm turned into boredom and disgust with my boss. Ended up being asked to 'leave' as he had other issues and didn't want to deal with what I saw as the problems with the company. So I did, and took all my clients with me because I had a good relationship with them, and they didn't care about the company, just how well I did the job for them.

    That was 10+ years ago and I doubt I will ever go back to a 'job'. I can now set my own hours, I make good money, and I make my own choices about who I work for. Of course I also can't take off and holidays and let someone else look after things while I am gone. But that's a minor price to pay for being able to get out on a sunny fall day and go golfing, or head out in the winter when the powder hits.

    So although in the beginning I had one of the three, I have ended up with all three. Although it took almost 10 years to get to that point. And if I had started with a job I didn't like I would probably still be sitting at two out of three.

    eldereldo

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelPSUer
    I have found that finding an entry level job is difficult in itself, let alone one I like or love. The field I am trying to get into is advertising and my option at this point is to take a job in NYC that starts out at around 28,000. I would not say I love advertising by any means, this is just where my experiece is and thus gives me the best chance to find a job in this very competive job market. Your Choose 2 idea is sort of something I went through in my head this summer. I put the job search on hold in order to get my priorities in order. Since finding that great job did not work out perfectly at first I decided I might as well be where I want to be (near the mtns)...and hope the job thing works out at a later date. I am cautiously optomistic that I will find a job I love, I am currently just a bit disenfranchised with the system and agree the the "daily grind is bull shit"
    Whoah. No one I know outside of the Military found their perfect job (or Career!) on the first try. Sometimes you even find out that what you THOUGHT was the job you reallyreally wanted was just the opposite. The point isn't that you should simply throw your hands up in the air and hope for the best, it's that you have to WORK AT IT. School's done, amigo. No one will tell you what to do anymore. It sounds liberating, but is in actuality much harder than following a curriculum.

    BTW - my first job in DC (almost as expensive a place to live as NY) paid a whole $12,000. That was 10 years ago. It took me 3 years of putting up w/that and other work-related crap to meet enough people and hone my skills before I finally had the cojones to leave and strike out on my own as a freelancer. The day I quit I basically quadrupled my income!! Had I tried to leave earlier that would not have been the case. After a year of not being certain of employment (fun, but not my thing) one of my steady clients offered me the job I have to this day, and will until I retire. Take that $28,000 job in NY - but only if you really want to get into advertising. You'll find a way to make ends meet. There's always moonlighting in bars, like i did.

    My point: there's something to be said for "paying dues." And no, simply getting a sheepskin does not qualify. No one owes you shit for that.

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    The “find a job that you love and you will be happy” chiche, while possible, can be a bit misleading (well it is to me anyway). I find that it isn’t so much what I am doing, but the amount of time I have to work that sucks the most. I don’t generally want to do anything for 40 hours a week. Even if it was something I love, that is way too much time. And 60 hours is just plain horrible. My career goals at this point are to reduce the amount of time I work, and to increase flexibility so I can work remotely from mountains or wherever. 30 hours a week in an office is fine with me, provided that I get to use my brain and work with smart people. Besides, I need access to computers and fax machines and printers to manage my recreation time anyways. Now if I could work 30 hours a week, only in the summer, that would be ideal. The beta on this concept starts for me this winter, having negotiated all Fridays off!

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    Odd...I just remembered that this morning when I went to Dunkin Donuts to grab coffee this nice old man let me and this other lady cut in front of him.

    "I'm retired," he said "so I'm in no rush." I laughed & said "Oh you are so lucky, hopefully one day I'll be in your shoes." He said "It's not so great, in fact I don't like it. I miss working." Turns out he was an automechanic who really loved what he did, and some major health problems caused him to have to stop doing it.

    For some reason, I felt so sad I almost teared up there for a minute. Then it hit me "Shit, it's 8:40 a.m. and I still haven't had any coffee. No wonder I'm crying."

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    "I call it reveling in natures finest element. Water in its pristine form. Straight from the heavens. We bathe in it, rejoicing in the fullest." --BZ

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    those last two are pretty close to my two. I think we got something here

    now all I have to do is drive to Idaho and buy beer and a lotto ticket
    Pick me up first and I will show you the way!!

    I do this once a month on my lunch hour, hehe. Have yet to have to drink 3.2 beer even down in Clearfield.
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