snow leopard ate my computer (mac book pro, core duo)

[ex-powderbroker]

won't boot off that CD or any other...it's nuked.

[SuperChief]

Hour to swap a drive? MBP must be a pita my MB takes five minutes. check out carbon copy cloner, it's a cool way to ghost your drive.

[ex-powderbroker]

yeah, you have to crack the case and take it apart for real, not like popping in a ram sim.

you end up entirely with the guts in your lap.

carbon copy is a sick app, agreed.

[jmf]

yeah i am not going to have a chance to swap the drive because it takes me about an hour to crack it and put it back, and i'm sick of thinking of new ways to open up those retarded size 5 torx screws.

Anyone who thinks torx screws are 'retarded' and they still haven't just bought a set of torx screwdrivers for their equipment doesn't qualify as someone who has "a pretty good idea of things when it comes to computers".

When you said that "the developer tools package is actually pretty impressive, and the terminal is way better than anything most people ever even sniff on a pc" you've just proven yourself to be the typical mac user... Can read ad-copy like a champ, but can't use their computer worth a shit. For example: having "lots of tools" because it's "a unix system" didn't help you understand how to access the disk from another computer. Or how to take apart your laptop... I mean shit - how could you possibly fix it if they didn't put a little door there for you!

[ex-powderbroker]

ummm, i've taken apart lots of laptops including this one, my tools (including torx set) were at a job site because I don't want to carry 40 pounds of shit with me on a bike or the train every day.

And Torx screws are still retarded and one of the reasons WE BOTH probably have issues with Macs.

Apple crafts their products to keep people out and prevent them from messing with them in the guise of making the most perfect cleanest product. The developer tools suit my needs because I am fine working within the parameters of Apples code for some tweaking.

Torx function similarly, but they keep out only the lowest of all users to prevent them from inadvertently damaging their system because they don't have it; but everyone is perfectly capable of swapping out a drive, they are simply scared of breaking something.

That said, the products are pretty good, largely well designed, and suit most peoples needs pretty well.

Also, I am 99 percent sure that If I swap out that drive and stick into my MB (which came with a handy door) it would boot and that I am looking at a processor/logic board hardware problem.

Any other PC people that feel really superior because they paid a bit less congratulations, I hope you get a lot of virtual HJ's on Warcraft!

[jmf]

jumpin jiminy.... they must have made those things even easier to use than I thought! On a 'computer' (admittedly not a mac, but a 'unix system' none the less) you would need to do some troubleshooting to determine the difference between a disk problem, a disk controller problem, or a system board problem. But here you are 99% sure, and you haven't even pulled the disk! Don't mind me - I'll go back to running my company's network...

PS, I can turn you on to some great hardware stores that can sell you a T5 screwdriver that weights less than 40 lbs. In case you even want to fix your computer, or your blackberry, or your iDiotphone, or something...

[ex-powderbroker]

haha, my torx kit is fine, and I'm browsing the internets on another computer today so all is well.

I am 99 percent sure that it is not that drive because there is a hardware command to bypass the startup drives in favor of booting off the firewire, which happens to be setup in this case like a regular mac drive. Because it won't boot off that drive either, I am pretty sure it's a hardware failure.

I could be wrong, but the way the computer crashed so hard so fast, i think that something in the installation taxed a damaged part, or there was something loose that caused a short.

Yes, the hard drive would be my next move to diagnose, but unfortunately I was at work and then traveling so I just didn't have the hour to spend taking the machine apart and putting it back together. Even in the mac repair facilities, I don't think they can do it in under 30 mins, it's really a pain in the ass the way the last gen MBP was put together.

Kinda like when you put a new tire on a bike, if you don't do it everyday it's just going to take a bit longer than at the shop, no matter how much you want to do it yourself (and i do). In fact, going for a bike ride right now!

Also, spoke to Apple and my generation MBPs have had some faulty Video Card / Logic Board burnout issues! They're aware of the problem and based on my description ordered up a new part.

I will let you all know how it goes!

[advres]

Also, spoke to Apple and my generation MBPs have had some faulty Video Card / Logic Board burnout issues! They're aware of the problem and based on my description ordered up a new part.

I will let you all know how it goes!

If it has the NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT card. Every one NVIDIA produced was faulty.

[ex-powderbroker]

yes and apparently yes.

[puhisurfer]

Same thing on my MacBook Air (yeah that's right, I'm a power user). Have time machine backup, but no USB drive, so couldn't boot using CC; had to take it down to the genius bar, where they did a reinstall (but saved me from having to restore my data, so that was nice.)

Upgrading headless Mac Mini, lost external video (to an LCD tv). Had to take it to work to finish the install.

All in all, we're 2 for 3 here. Make sure you have a backup and don't need your computer that day.

6.1 fixes the Java, btw.

[crackboy]

i thought my wife was going to have an issue with the install , hers hung on the grey screen with the spinning ball. but eventually pulled through.

[ex-powderbroker]

dudes who upgraded, check your battery status to see if there's a "Service Alert". People are blaming SL on battery failure, the good news is I'm going to get a new one before my Applecare runs out even though I'm pretty sure this is an OS thing. Better to have a new battery anyway than a three year old one.

[Crass3000]

something happened with that java update.

Yah some programs only work with the right Java version. I don't know the program you're talking about though. Seems weird you can't even boot into safe mode if its just a java issue.

PCs seem so much easier to deal with but I admittedly have only a tiny bit of experience with MAC in school labs.

[ex-powderbroker]

man, all i remember about that shit was how infuriating it is to talk the apple "geniuses" sometimes.

[ex-powderbroker]

I am bumping this olde thread because there's now a class action lawsuit against NVIDIA that I got a postcard for.

It looks like the big winners will be people who purchased HP's, who will get new laptops. They're reimbursing for repairs made though... could be worth checking out if you were ever frustrated with your machine.

http://www.nvidiasettlement.com/

[jaredstrauss]

Can you boot into single user mode? Hold cmd s on boot. This will bring up command line only. From there you can mount an external drive and move your stuff over.

Oops didn't realize how old the thread was.

[MakeFast]

I am bumping this olde thread because there's now a class action lawsuit against NVIDIA that I got a postcard for.

It looks like the big winners will be people who purchased HP's, who will get new laptops. They're reimbursing for repairs made though... could be worth checking out if you were ever frustrated with your machine.

http://www.nvidiasettlement.com/

Wow, this may explain why my MBP has eaten 2 NVIDIA cards already. Of course applecare covered it...

[Hugh Conway]

Get a PC.

man, all i remember about that shit was how infuriating it is to talk the apple "geniuses" sometimes.

not how much more you paid to purchase the product that pays for those fucktards?

[ex-powderbroker]

not how much more you paid to purchase the product that pays for those fucktards?

it was a hassle with the repairs, i think it went back twice by mail to apple (via applecare). I'm not sure what other manufacturers would have done with their extended warranties, looks like it wasn't much based on the fact that there is now a class action.

In the future I hope to find a decent pc laptop case to run os x off... it seems like everyone is doing those off center keypads in even uglier cases now, except apple.

Paying 2x for the same computer in a sexier outfit is pretty silly, unless this computer somehow manages to last for another year or two, and then i'd say i got my moneys worth anyway.

[mtaylor]

In other news, snow leopard still blows.

[systemoverblow'd]

In other news, snow leopard still blows.

How so? I haven't had any issues. What really blows is going to be Lion. Man did you see that demo SJ did? They are trying to do everything with the mouse when all power users know that the keyboard is the fastest way to work. Command+space is the the most common keyboard shortcut I use. I very rarely go digging through folders anymore and clicking on things. ohh and command+tab too.

[herminator]

ml212
Thanks for posting. Heard about the problems awhile ago with their video chips on macrumor. I had screen issues once that resolved after reboot. Totally forget about the chip issue until you posted here, checked the site and sure enough my 15 MBP is involved.

[RShea]

it was a hassle with the repairs, i think it went back twice by mail to apple (via applecare). I'm not sure what other manufacturers would have done with their extended warranties, looks like it wasn't much based on the fact that there is now a class action.

In the future I hope to find a decent pc laptop case to run os x off... it seems like everyone is doing those off center keypads in even uglier cases now, except apple.

Paying 2x for the same computer in a sexier outfit is pretty silly, unless this computer somehow manages to last for another year or two, and then i'd say i got my moneys worth anyway.

In the case of some of the Hewlett Packard laptops- HP extended the warranty on some models, so it was like getting Apple Care for free... I had a customer that we sent their laptop back for repair after the original warranty was up. I also had some customers that did not have a model with the offer for extended warranty and they had to be repaired or some elected to go purchase a new unit.

Dell did pretty much nothing at all from what I read on the matter- if the unit was still under warranty they fixed it, otherwise tough. LOOKS LIKE APPLE did not do the SAME for their MACS and have addressed longer coverage (news to me that you did not have to spend money on Apple Care.) My bad on that as originally posted here as pointed out...

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Hardwar...tops/m-p/53157

Adding the official NVidia Settlement web site link also...

http://www.nvidiasettlement.com/

[systemoverblow'd]

In the case of some of the Hewlett Packard laptops- HP extended the warranty on some models, so it was like getting Apple Care for free... I had a customer that we sent their laptop back for repair after the original warranty was up. I also had some customers that did not have a model with the offer for extended warranty and they had to be repaired or some elected to go purchase a new unit.

Dell did pretty much nothing at all from what I read on the matter- if the unit was still under warranty they fixed it, otherwise tough. Same for Apple unless you spent money on Apple Care.

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Hardwar...tops/m-p/53157

Blatant biased lie. http://support.apple.com/kb/ts2377

Apple extended replacement on all machines with the card to 4 years even if the machine is out of warranty. THey are also giving refunds to anyone who has paid for it to get fixed. There is no mention of needing to purchase Apple Care. We know you're an Apple hater by now but before you go blindly blaming something get your fucking facts straight.

And none of us should be blaming the computer manufacturers anyway. It was NVIDIA's fuck-up and their long wait before admitting they fucked up that so many machines were made with these. It should be NVIDIA that we are crying foul from and if Dell people can't get their machines fixed for free, they should sue NVIDIA, hence the class action suit.

This isn't really a thread to go picking on certain companies for what YOU think their repair/return policy should be.

[Hugh Conway]

And none of us should be blaming the computer manufacturers anyway. It was NVIDIA's fuck-up and their long wait before admitting they fucked up that so many machines were made with these. It should be NVIDIA that we are crying foul from and if Dell people can't get their machines fixed for free, they should sue NVIDIA, hence the class action suit.

This isn't really a thread to go picking on certain companies for what YOU think their repair/return policy should be.

I love Apple fanbois.