ACL

[basom]

thats terrible.

but i know how you feel, and once you have a clear direction in mind things start to feel a little better. also, you will be inducted into the secret maggot society of the reconstructed ACL, a very exclusive club.

of course i've only really had to miss a season of biking and not a whole ski season- if my docs were telling me i wouldn't be back in some capacity for this year i'd be a bit more angry.

(is this the same knee you tweaked in heart a long time ago?)

FWIW to counter bcriders missing work estimates. i had a pateller graft, off crutches in a few (*extreamly painful*) days. was driving myself around a bit at 10-12 days, and was working in the office two weeks post op. i do spend a shitload of time in PT, like three hours three days a week, so i have to miss hours for that.

best of luck Ty, hope its just a partial tear and you don't have to miss any snow time.

[Big E]

Shit.

Shit shit shit.

That sucks, Ty, I was hoping for the best but fearing this when you first mentioned the soccer injury.

I agree w/ Telekop, as painful as it may sound, not getting it taken care of now and skiing on it a whole season is risking a lot. You know how hard it will be to hold back, and you're just opening yourself up to even more damage in there, and more arthritis in 20 or whatever years.

PS, basom - PT 3 hrs/day, 3x a week? Dude, you're my hero. When you say PT, you mean actually w/ a therapist, or just at the gym?

PPS, basom - it's not that exclusive a club

[basom]

Originally posted by Big E


PS, basom - PT 3 hrs/day, 3x a week? Dude, you're my hero. When you say PT, you mean actually w/ a therapist, or just at the gym?

PPS, basom - it's not that exclusive a club

thats with my therapist. i do my own (less agressive) workout two to three more days a week after work, depending on what the swelling is telling me.

don't let ty think he's not special- we are cool and exclusive, even if half of the population is in the club

[gincognito]

So sorry to read this. Vibes sent, positivity encouraged. Still hoping for the best.

Sick and ashamed and happy (and missing a season isn't the end of the world - especially if you can squeak a day or two in at the end),
d.

[Big E]

Originally posted by basom
thats with my therapist. i do my own (less agressive) workout two to three more days a week after work, depending on what the swelling is telling me.

don't let ty think he's not special- we are cool and exclusive, even if half of the population is in the club

Wow, your insurance is ponying up for that? Consider me impressed.

[basom]

Originally posted by Big E
Wow, your insurance is ponying up for that? Consider me impressed.

i get as many visits as i can squeeze in in 60 days. then nada, I'm on my own. it pays for 60 days per injury per lifetime. so if i have to rehab my right knee for an acl again, i guess i'm screwed. two more weeks and then its the gym only.

[Vinman]

Ty sorry to hear about your injury. Sending (+) chraged healing waves your way. Hopefully it is only a partial tear or a sprain. But, if it is torn, you will have a very difficult decision to make. One that I had to make a few years ago also.

I torm my ACL in early October of my senior year playing college soccer and had to chose between red shirting and getting surgery to be ready for next years soccer season or wating until after ski season to get surgery and not play soccer again. At the time I was really into soccer and decided to forgo skiing for a year so I could play soccer again. It sucked missing ski season but it was a good choice. I was able to both have a stable knee and be 100% ready for skiing the following year.

The best advise I could give you is to think of the bigger picture [if it comes to that] and go for the surgery. Take for example if you wait until march or April [after ski season] to have surgery you will just barely be getting ready for the ski season. Not to mention being somewhat resticted from activity during the summer months also.

I'll hope your MRI shows only a sprain, good luck and keep your thoughts positive.

[teledave]

Originally posted by basom
i get as many visits as i can squeeze in in 60 days. then nada, I'm on my own. it pays for 60 days per injury per lifetime. so if i have to rehab my right knee for an acl again, i guess i'm screwed. two more weeks and then its the gym only.

But then wouldn't that be a new injury thus resetting the 60 day meter?

Ty, that sucks. Hope it's just a strain and you make the season.

[basom]

Originally posted by teledave
But then wouldn't that be a new injury thus resetting the 60 day meter?

i think if your doctor wants you to have more therapy they can get it okayed, its just more red tape to wade through. bottom line, get some docs and PT's in your corner and they can get you what you need. working the system.

[Xover]

Originally posted by Mr. Altagirl
I know what you mean. I was diagnosed with a torn MCL today and had an MRI done immediately (I got lucky that they had an opening in the schedule). Won't know about the rest of the knee until Tuesday. Needless to say, no DH race (or any riding) for me this weekend; I just get to sit around and worry about the outcome on Tuesday. If I just have a bad MCL, I'll get it stronger by the time the snow flies. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

MRI?? Not a good sign if the doc ordered it. If only MCL, you'll be back in 2 weeks

Shoe, good luck dude; hope only partial.

[watersnowdirt]

NOOOOOOOOOOO!

It can't be!

I'm WILLING it to be ok. Lots of positive vibes from the bunch of us here in HMB.

sorry, Ty. I know what it's like to lose a season, and I truly feel for you .

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

wow...I love you guys (sorry hardrider, but not in that way ).

Seriously thanks for the advice & support. It really helps. Lot's of good advice here that I need to re-read through again and digest it a little more.

It just blows me away, how active you can be and still possibly have an injury that destroys a season.

As we were wrapping up yesterday, the doc said "I've only known you for a few minutes but something tells me I don't have to send you to PT at this time to help keep your knee strong, huh? You will take care of this on your own, no?".

heh...well, at least he was right about that one...hopefully he's right about this only being a partial as well. *sigh*

[Below Zero]

Ah shit man, that sucks big time! I've never had a knee injury (knock on wood) so I can't relate like others can. Hang in there man. Hope everything turns out for the best - I'm sure it will

[Theodore]

With all that talk about insurance and therapy, I'm not sure how I pulled it off. I did 3 hours a day for 5 days a week for probably 6 weeks or so. Then went to 3 hours 3 days. Got my doc to reccommend some of this http://www.frappieracceleration.com/

All in all I was in therapy for ~10 months or so... but mine was ACL, LCL and biceps femoris tear.

[xboat]

they're dropping like flies around here and the season hasn't even started. not good.

shoe, i feel for ya mang. knees suck! no season for me this year but should be good to go for next. i finally made the phone call yesterday to get my ACL reconstruct scheduled, i feel better now.

reconstructed ACL, a very exclusive club indeed.

[PlayHarder]

Good vibes sent.
I've got no doubts you'll be healed up and doing stuff like this again before you know it.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Originally posted by Bullet
If you get it operated on - definately get the PT.

oh yah, for sure....I think he was mainly talking about scheduling any PT now prior to any surgery that might be required.

[Big E]

Originally posted by Theodore
With all that talk about insurance and therapy, I'm not sure how I pulled it off. I did 3 hours a day for 5 days a week for probably 6 weeks or so. Then went to 3 hours 3 days. Got my doc to reccommend some of this http://www.frappieracceleration.com/

All in all I was in therapy for ~10 months or so... but mine was ACL, LCL and biceps femoris tear.

Forget insurance, how did you pull it off time-wise? Were you working, or in school so that you had a free summer or whatever?

[homerjay]

Best of luck with whatever decision you make, and I'm hoping it doesn't require full reconstruction.

My good buddy Andy blew out his ACL, but the doctors did not reconstruct it. He's a super strong skier, and still skis alot, but I wouldn't call him terribly aggressive and he's not a hucker. If reconstruction is what it takes for you to get back to where you need to be, then do it, and apply the positive energy you have towards skiing towards rehab. You'll be stronger than ever.

Ride the shit out of that pimp road bike in the meantime.

[Johnny Gunn]

Ty,

That sucks and I know what ya mean. Took 2 bad falls last year and I'm definitely a little concerned about the damage I inflicked on my knee's. I've been riding the bike and pushing weights as much as I can but the realization that this ski season might suffer alot is starting to hit. I have an MRI scheduled for mid October and I see the surgeon November 3rd. I'm a little nervous to hear what he has to say. And winter is approaching fast. This sucks ass.

Best of luck Ty

[hardrider]

Originally posted by Johnny Gunn
Ty,

That sucks and I know what ya mean. Took 2 bad falls last year and I'm definitely a little concerned about the damage I inflicked on my knee's. I've been riding the bike and pushing weights as much as I can but the realization that this ski season might suffer alot is starting to hit. I have an MRI scheduled for mid October and I see the surgeon November 3rd. I'm a little nervous to hear what he has to say. And winter is approaching fast. This sucks ass.

Best of luck Ty

One of those wrecks wouldnt have been a collision at sqauw would it? Hope it works out man.

[bcrider]

Once again this board has helped open my somewhat narrow mind. Thank you.

Special thanks to Telekóptero for your comments…it really made the light turn on!

If I get my knee fixed…I can go big like the old days! Instead of progressing 5% a year, it will be 10%. I gotta do it next summer!

Walking out of the hospital and your speedy recovery sound inspirational but I’m not so sure that will be the case for me. I’ve heard about the cadaver option too and haven’t been able to decide which is better for my injury, patella or cadaver. When the time comes…I may try to pick your brain a little more if that’s ok.

My other excuse for putting it off (along with time off work, finding someone to drive me to and from work) is the PT part. I know how important it is and how much dedication is needed. When you’re a single dude (or married w/o kids) with plenty of free time I’m sure its easy to make this happen, but try being a father of two, I can assure you its going to be much harder. The family depends on me for certain things and it will be tough on everyone when I’m out of commission. I suspect it will be hard for many of you to relate to this.

The optimist in me however, (and thanks to some of the posts in here) knows that I can do it though…it’s not that long right? 6-10months?

The other part that opened my eyes was the arthritis part. Six years ago when the doc said I could run a risk in my late thirties and forties...I didn’t think much of it and figured I would have it fixed by then. Well guess what dumbass…you’re now 32! Get the surgery!

Thanks again for your advice on the surgery/PT but I do think this comment is a little exaggerated though.

Originally posted by Telekóptero
unless i wanted to ski groomers all season at 70% intensity, as in cheeseball boring turns

I wouldn’t exactly call the second pic I posted on page 1 a blue run or consider it a boring groomer. But I will admit that looking at the before and after pics I posted, I am limited in terms of size of things I can jump off. There are still ways to push yourself though, you just gotta keep it on the ground. My 80% is still better than some folks 100% and I still feel like I progress each year overall.

The point of my original post in this thread wasn’t to say Tyrone should or shouldn’t take the season off and get the surgery…it was just to show that you can still ski and ski pretty aggressive without an acl.

Now…whether that is a good idea or not is another question.


Ps. Sorry Tyrone for my thread drift. That line down the Heart is SICK! I remember the vid too.

[baseWeldr]

bigger, stronger, faster [/bionic man music...]
refocus the ski energy this year and more doors will open
its just a small blip in your skilife, a summer in SA or NZ and the numbers will come out the same
soulfull posting shouldn't be affected
be well, do good work, and keep in touch

[freshie247]

Hey TY,
Hang in there buddy.We're all sending you the positive energy.You gotta hope for the best!You don't know until you know!

I was in serious pain over this cracked filling that I didn't want to deal with.I went to the dentist the last 2 days,dreading the fact that I waited too long to deal with it ,& the inevitable Root Canal I was sure was coming!

Turns out I only needed to have the bad filling drilled out along with some decay.It was some serious drilling,& my tooth still hurts today,but it'll go away & I only had to spend$125 instead of $850.Keep the faith brother!Ciao

[basom]

Originally posted by bcrider

The point of my original post in this thread wasn’t to say Tyrone should or shouldn’t take the season off and get the surgery…it was just to show that you can still ski and ski pretty aggressive without an acl.

Now…whether that is a good idea or not is another question.

skiing agressively without an acl is a very different thing in terms of the strain on the knee as opposed to snowboarding without an acl. skiing puts you acl in greater risk by a long shot.