The word "Huck".

[gonzo]

I have to get this off my chest. The word "huck" is currently a staple of the skiing and snowboarding lexicon. It can be used to describe any sort of jump taken, but tends to be used with bigger, gnarlier, more bad ass ones, and lately has shifted towards cliff drops.

What pisses me off is that the word "huck" and "hucker" first came into popular use as derrogatory descriptors in the late '80s early and '90s for penciled out snowboarders not having any style and just "hucking" around as hard as they could trying to land spazzed out 540s on their Look-Lamar Trick Sticks (skiers you will remember this as the "neon era" - you were probably on your RD Heli Dogs and queer-entrys trying to pull moonwalkers but pre-releasing out of your ESSE bindings).

Anyways, somewhere the true meaning was lost. I think the straw that broke the camel's back was J.T. Holmes' line in "Mind the Addiction" (I think that was it) that you all know by heart..."I'm here to huck." I remember the first time I saw that movie I thought to myself what a douche this kid was for saying that and having it make the final cut of a ski flick, as it would be obvious to all that he had no smoov-stylee-style.

My theory is that if J.T. Holmes had ended up being a Johnny Mosely and not a J.T. Homles, no one would have started to use the word or adapted their usage...

So THERE! Did they teach you THAT in the CIA!!!

[Mountainman]

C.R. Johnson said it

[iceman]

Originally posted by Mountainman
C.R. Johnson said it

Okey-doke.

[jayfrizzo]

Interesting, Gonz.

When I was a kid, like 15-20 years ago (crap!), the word huck meant to throw something really hard.

I remember playing frisbee with some people in Central Park when I first moved to NYC and yelling at one of them to "huck it." He looked at me like I was retarded.

I think the first time I heard it pertaining to skiing was watching "There's Something About McConkey." But I came late to the snow game.


J-

[iceman]

Originally posted by gonzo


1)the word "huck" and "hucker" first came into popular use ... (for) snowboarders not having any style and just "hucking" around as hard as they could ...

2)I thought to myself what a douche this kid was for saying that ... as it would be obvious to all that he had no smoov-stylee-style.

So which is it, throwing hard or "smoove-stylee"? Your argument needs work.

[gonzo]

No...I think it's OK other than mixing up CR and JT. It USED to mean throwing hard with no style. NOW it seems to mean going big and badass. It obviously changed somewhere along the way...It still gets me when I hear someone use "huck" as a good descriptor of a big smooth spin, etc.

The Johnny Mosely reference is supposed to represent a has-been loser - insert "Dan Egan" if it makes it work better...

[iceman]

You drinkin' tonight, gonz?

[gonzo]

No..does this really make no sense? Should I have toked the rock AFTER I posted?

[iceman]

Maybe I just don't get it.

To me, "hucking" is throwing yourself off something. If you do it stylee, well, that's better, I think. I guess I don't understand the distinction you're trying to make.

[Dexter Rutecki]

From what I can see, he's basically saying that the term used to be derogatory, but isn't anymore.
Right?

[gonzo]

yuh. now kids brag about what they hucked, how big they hucked, what they are going to huck tomorrow, blah blah blah.

8 years ago that kid would have sounded like a moron. maybe that is what you get from kids that think tanner hall's "monkey style" (or whatever that crap is) looks cool. to me that shit looks like a joey in stupid camo pajamas that might be good at rollerblading but has only been on snow twice before...

don't even get me started on those fucking desperado bandana things some of those ass bags are wearing. i swear to god Shaun White wore one for the first time cause he had a big ass zit on his lip or something. no they are cooler than sliced bread. fucking retards...

maybe i am old (24) and bitter. now where'd i put that crack...

edit: spellin

[Sublime]

Mosley skis? All I ever see him do is host Real World Road rules battles.

Put's on flame retardent suit for that one.

[iceman]

I'm pretty sure Gonzo's hammered.

[iceman]

(winky face)

maybe

[gonzo]

i wish. i'm staring at the federal rules of civil procedure. fucking sweet.

[iceman]

Nothing funny leaps to mind.

[gonzo]

Ice, I know you are sitting at your computer with a desperado bandana tucked under your goggles, cleverly covering your nose and mouth.

I'll get you...if it's the last thing I do...

[iceman]

manana, gonz

Good luck with the studying, damn I used to hate studying, but good luck with it.

[jayfrizzo]

This is an outstanding thread.

[Foggy_Goggles]

I thing Gonzo is staying that "huck" used to me thowing yourself off something with no regard for injury and lacking sytle now it just means jump or lauch?

Yeh, so?

[Alkasquawlik]

When was the last time you heard some one say, "He just hucked the smoothest, stylest 180." Hucking is still deragatory. I don't know if hucking outside of squaw is the norm term for any type of jump, but here it's either a humours slant on throwing yourself of cliffs and jumps or a way to negatively describe an air (like said original definition). JT is using the term exactly as he intended. He is simply going to go fall of cliffs, not try to be smooth and stylee. (Although he actually is purty damn stylee) And why bag on JT for wanting to just huck. Don't most people admire if at least are entertained by Jamie Pierre, Rob Holmes and Jeff Holden. None of those guys are stylee and smoove, the just fucking huck. I agree the term is widely used and has been normalized a bit, but it's still used around Squaw as a negative term for throwing yourself off something.

[Samwich]

The connotation depends on the context. If you see a guy throw an ugly trick in the park, and you shake your head, frown slightly, and say, "Yeah, it was a rodeo 5, but he hucked it." That means that, sure, it's a hard trick, but he did it with 0 style. Of course, if you say that, it also means that you are a douche for not saying to the kid that threw the rodeo, "Nice rodeo! It would be even sicker if [give helpful hint]" and spreading the stoke. But I'm off topic.

If you're talking about cliffs, it could be used to describe an aggressive cliff drop. 'Drop' implies passivity. I still prefer the word 'launch,' but that's just me. You can say, "Dude, my friend just hucked a fat cliff. He carried so much speed over the lip, and stayed tucked up all the way to the landing. Stuck it perfectly. That kid sure knows how to huck his meat."

To me, though, 'huck' still sounds a little weird. It definitely still has negative connotations. People mostly use it as kind of a joke. CR Johnson was down-playing his ability when he said it. I mean, if he says, "I'm here to huck." We all know that he's CR Johnson, and that he means that he intends to throw down some crazy shit with a lot of style. But if he said, "I'm here to be the bestest skier ever and do lots of cool tricks with really good style" then everyone would think he was an asshole.

Whatever. (it's late)

[funkendrenchman]

I think you guys are thinking about this wayyyyyyy too much.

[truth]

Originally posted by gonzo
No..does this really make no sense? Should I have toked the rock AFTER I posted?

Yup...been using huck in the radairdog sense since the early 90's, and in the "to throw something hard" sense since...geez...I feel old. Regardless, it rhymes with fuck...it's gotta be good.

[alto]

Samwich knows everything. All ye who oppose he shall perish and burneth in the eternal hellfire.

Hucking is gnar, getting gnar is rad. That's all there is to it.