Cornice/cliff drop in the park

**boarderline** · 08-08-2004, 11:24 PM

From the "wouldn't it be cool if this existed" files, I present: the terrain park cornice/cliff drop simulator.

Imagine this: a flattish inrun leading to a 10-15' vertical drop that could be landed easily since the transition would be nice and steep. I'm no artist (obviously), but here's a drawing of how this might look/work.

What'd you thinK? It'd be a nice way to practice doing cliff/cornice drops in a controlled environment.

Anyone know people who manage Utah area parks? I'd like to pitch the idea to them to see if they'd be interested in building this.

**Blurred** · 08-08-2004, 11:29 PM

First time I saw that it was called a quarterpipe.

Make it bigger, like 50 feet high, and it'd be a sweet idea. Good work dude, never thought of that.

**tywhy** · 08-08-2004, 11:31 PM

fun idea, but I don't think that would get built by anyone. good kickers are like a 10-15 foot drop, but you get to go up in the air first and have lots of speed.

**summit** · 08-08-2004, 11:55 PM

Definately need more than 10-15'
Good idea though.

Just make sure the dumb bastards don't groom the landing after a storm.

**3pin** · 08-09-2004, 12:04 AM

alpine meadows in tahoe did it last year, but not that big. maybe 6' drop and 8' flat before the steep transition. it was kinda funny, skiing through the park and past a "cliff area" sign. pretty fun.

**BakerBoy** · 08-09-2004, 12:16 AM

What happens if you do anything more than fall off the edge of that feature? Because you're going to clear the landing the way that idea is conceived.

**Blurred** · 08-09-2004, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by BakerBoy
What happens if you do anything more than fall off the edge of that feature?

I'm going to land that thing switch and ski into the road. The only thing I've had to prove as a professional athelete was the size of my balls. [/JP]

**boarderline** · 08-09-2004, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by BakerBoy
What happens if you do anything more than fall off the edge of that feature? Because you're going to clear the landing the way that idea is conceived.

As long as the landing were long enough, overshooting it wouldn't be a problem. Setting up the feature on a steep sustained pitch or rollover in the park would definately be helpful.

**BakerBoy** · 08-09-2004, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by boarderline
As long as the landing were long enough, overshooting it wouldn't be a problem. Setting up the feature on a steep sustained pitch or rollover in the park would definately be helpful.

Sure, and every single cliff out there will have a perfectly flat take off and long, limitless landing. I think I'd rather just go and find a nice friendly 20 footer (which I would try and build some kind of a lip off of it) and huck myself into pow. Crashing unneccessarily onto hardpack is for people like Max.

But seriously, if I could go and build lips on 99% of the cliffs I hit, I would. The last thing I want to do is practice on a flat takeoff onto hardpacked snow. That just seems dumb.

**FNG** · 08-09-2004, 01:17 AM

I thought the point of hucking cliffs was to do it in the BC. Seems kinda wrong to me to put one in the terrain park.

**BakerBoy** · 08-09-2004, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by FNG
I thought the point of hucking cliffs was to do it in the BC. Seems kinda wrong to me to put one in the terrain park.

What's next, rails in the backcountry?

**snorkeldeep** · 08-09-2004, 05:56 AM

sounds like y'all are inspired by tyrones letter of the month in the new powder

**Dexter Rutecki** · 08-09-2004, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by BakerBoy
I only ski deep pow. Hard snow scares me. I am Powderboy! All hail!

**lemon boy** · 08-09-2004, 07:51 AM

Ahem

They've been building these for years

right off the side of nearly every cat road

plus they have real world landings too

oh

and what a fucking death trap that'd be in a park

there's no way to make this not blind

and stuntaz like BB are gonna be in the impact zone

collecting their gay ski week gear

**Below Zero** · 08-09-2004, 08:17 AM

That is a great idea! Now if they just pust some fake "Disneyland" rocks on the vertical drop it will just like backcountry cliff drops

**Dexter Rutecki** · 08-09-2004, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by lemon boy
and what a fucking death trap that'd be in a park

there's no way to make this not blind

I agree it'd be a death trap, but every single feature (except hips, I guess) in the park is pretty much blind. I know I can't see what's on the other side of any table or big kicker until I'm almost off the jump. The reason this idea is more dangerous than most, though, is that anyone coming into it with any speed at all would probably overshoot, possibly by a long, long way. Terrain parks aren't usually built on steep trails, and a very long steep runout (like below a real cornice) is what you'd need to make this 'safe'.

**bcrider** · 08-09-2004, 09:00 AM

Next thing you’re gonna want powder in the park…

**Tyrone Shoelaces** · 08-09-2004, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by snorkeldeep
sounds like y'all are inspired by tyrones letter of the month in the new powder

FKNA! FKNA!

**phUnk** · 08-09-2004, 09:25 AM

Jump-To-Conclusions Mat

**basom** · 08-09-2004, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by phUnk
Jump-To-Conclusions Mat

the gift that keeps on giving!

**AntiSoCalSkier** · 08-09-2004, 10:20 AM

Bear Mtn sort of did this last year. There's a pretty steep pitch called Grizzly right under the main chair. With the right snow and wind conditions, a small cornice forms there. Last year in January (when they were done blowing snow on the main runs, and had enough snow to build all the park features they wanted), they set up a bunch of snow guns and left them running for a few days. When they were done, there was a pretty decent cornice there. It wasn't groomed, but it was fun.

**Baconzoo** · 08-09-2004, 10:53 AM

When I taught at Jackson, I took a student (30-40years old) to a 8 foot rock hop. I said, "This is cliff dropping 101" I showed him the line by throwing a snowball and keyed him into looking for the tranisition to land on. He then went off the wrong way and ragged dolled over the rocks busting his wrist and loosing his Rolex!
WHAT THE FUCK DUDE?
My lesson learned:
Let people figure out how to huck by themselves.

**hop** · 08-09-2004, 11:27 AM

That sounds like "high school air" aka "my first huck" at KW. Too bad the pic of my Steez gone wrong isn't still up on telemarktips or I'd post it.

**hardrider** · 08-09-2004, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by hop
That sounds like "high school air" aka "my first huck" at KW. Too bad the pic of my Steez gone wrong isn't still up on telemarktips or I'd post it.

Believe it or not I just got my film from that day developed, awesome. At first I wasnt sure what I was looking at, all I saw was a body lying in a whole, then in the next shot you look up at the camera, ha. I have to get them up here somehow, the world deserves to see this.

p.s. Isnt the whole "cliff in a park" idea sort of like the acid drop thing snowboarders do from cranes?