this post shows your ignorance, jongavin
its not the manner in which they are slaughtered, but the manner in which they live.
whats worse, a few hours of suffering before death, or an entire life of suffering in a cage thats not even big enough to move around in?
Furthermore, one form of suffering is self-inflicted, the other is imposed upon them by us in a means to exploit them for our benefit.
Again, whats worse?
*i am not claiming i eat only free range hippy shit, nor do i think its really feasible for everyone to do so and raise animals like this, but i dont loose sleep over it like your emo butthurt self
Based on what information? Where? The US? The UK? Some countries have better standards of welfare than others.
I eat free ranged chickens, and get free ranged eggs so this doesn't really apply to me. But in a cage the chicken is not actually hurt, on a glue trap it gets mangled and very hurt.whats worse, a few hours of suffering before death, or an entire life of suffering in a cage thats not even big enough to move around in?
Hey, who set out the damn glue trap in the first place? Who didn't kill the animal in time so that all didn't have to happen? Animals caught on glue traps will fight for their lives, understandably. Oh, you could just kill the animal swiftly - but leaving it on a glue trap to die like that is worse than cruel.Furthermore, one form of suffering is self-inflicted, the other is imposed upon them by us in a means to exploit them for our benefit.
The glue trap because the animal will be in more pain and won't know what the fuck is going on. At least on a farm, the caged chicken is used to its daily routine. It has been there all its life, it doesn't know any better - so how can you say it has been suffering if it cannot compare anything to its situation? Being caged would be normal to it, it would be life... and it's not in any sort of pain either.Again, whats worse?
I don't agree with caged farming, but using a glue trap on a mouse and throwing it away alive is no worse than torturing it because you are intentionally making it suffer. Just because some countries have morally questionable farming practices does not make this any less valid.
I think you're just trying to justify starving a mouse to death on a glue trap by using other examples of perceived cruelty to animals. That there are other animals possibly being mistreated is irrelevant - it still doesn't make it right. Do you understand?*i am not claiming i eat only free range hippy shit, nor do i think its really feasible for everyone to do so and raise animals like this, but i dont loose sleep over it like your emo butthurt self
Last edited by GavinB; 01-13-2009 at 11:07 AM.
i understand you're an emo butthurt unicorn
BAWWW. Given up already? What's the matter, are my points too realistic for you? Makes me feel all warm inside when someone resorts to a pointless strawman, not even bothering to talk about what was said.
Yell out "hypocrite" and "ignorant", then get that shit thrown back at you. Try harder next time please, you suck.
is the styrofoam and plastic wrap similar to sitting on your hand so it goes numb before you jerk off?
Hmm, yes, I'm sure you are.
Too bad the world doesn't revolve around you.i think ive made my point by letting you blab
the casual observer i think would agree
Styrofoam and plastic wrap would be one step ahead of you at the very least. But keep trying, don't give up. Maybe one day you'll be lucky enough to nab someone with Down's syndrome, assuming they don't turn you down for the garden rake.Originally Posted by Viva
Gavin, wearing his mouse crusader hat, all butthurt from getting e-raped...
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"You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning".
-Scottish Proverb
rontele's ad-hominems are cracking my shit up, but if I may lend a hand in underscoring gavin's misinformedness...
wonder why we don't hunt with FMJ ammo? Must be because we want the animals to suffer as we spend all night looking for their injured carcass, right?
I'd like an example of this
The killer awoke before dawn.
He put his boots on.
Why not take a more creative route and go pick up a box of these guys?
I think that the human mind is unique among all other forms of life in that it can spontaneously create unique thoughts and provide unique behaviors. Instead of rewarding that uniqueness we, for some reason probably because of cultural and social necessity, we chastise unique behavior and reward conformity.
I think that the human mind is unique among all other forms of life in that it can spontaneously create unique thoughts and provide unique behaviors. Instead of rewarding that uniqueness we, for some reason probably because of cultural and social necessity, we chastise unique behavior and reward conformity.
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