Rodent infestation

[Downbound Train]

I mean, really. Get fucking serious.

"I'm totally serious butt-lick"
- That kid in 16 Candles

[GavinB]

1. In my considerable expierince, the neck breaker seldom makes a clean neck breaking snap. Many times there are minutes to hours of excruciating pain before death.

Hmm, no. Most of the time a snap trap breaks the neck or spine, or crushes the head... thus resulting in an instantaneous death.

2. Smart mice figure out they can rape your snap trap of it's bait over and over without getting caught. Sticky traps are hard to rape.

I've also seen them completely avoid glue traps.

3. The mouse mind doesn't know it's going to die on a sticky trap...it just pisses them off.

Nup, they will be extremely frightened because they have NFI what is going on. This is why they shit and pee in these traps excessively.

3.5 I think a mouse doesn't have the emotions needed to freak out like a person.

Are you saying mice don't panic? Then why do they struggle so violently on glue traps, maiming themselves in the process when they can just sit there and do nothing? Looks like panicking to me.

Come to think of it, I'd rather be stuck to something and pass out of dehydration and die vs getting painfull pinned down to a board till I died of internal injuries.

And glue traps aren't painful? Seriously? Mice will chew their own limbs off to escape these things, and that's after pulling their skin off, or eyeballs out of their sockets trying to escape. And dehydration/starvation isn't so painless either.

Snap traps always worked for me. Glue traps are satanic, and should not be used. Kill the fucking buggers already, don't torture 'em.

sometimes I catch two at a time and throw their squealing asses right into the Trashcan.

Shitstain. Don't be a pussy and just fucking kill the thing, don't leave it to starve to death.

[GavinB]

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Yes, the mouse is still alive for the entire time. With a snap trap it's DEAD... not only is it better for YOU (and the community), it is better for the mouse. People who use glue traps will go to hell.

[TROLL-HOLE-E-O]

It's a MOUSE !

Either method can hurt the mouse so just let them live in your house.
And while you are at it, I hope you never fish, hunt, eat any animals and don't kill the fleas on your fucking dog. Watch where you hike cuz you might step on a bug.
This thread has been invaded by animal rights idiots.
The question was, how to kill mice. Looks like snap traps and sticky traps work. I like sticky.
Good day.

[Yeti]

This morning's harvest.

[bklyn]

http://glass.typepad.com/journal/200..._catch_a_.html

[Rontele]

http://glass.typepad.com/journal/200..._catch_a_.html

Or put anti-freeze in the trash can.

[Downbound Train]

Or put anti-freeze in the trash can.

Hey that's pretty cool. Has anyone actually tried it? Does the mouse sense the tipping point and scurry backwards?
Also, I'd put fondu oil in the bucket. MMMM tasty.

[GavinB]

It's a MOUSE !
Either method can hurt the mouse so just let them live in your house.
And while you are at it, I hope you never fish, hunt, eat any animals and don't kill the fleas on your fucking dog.

Don't care if it's a mouse. Point is, if you're going to kill, do so quickly. That goes with every other animal too, btw. Not really against killing animals or using them, but I don't go around torturing them either.

This thread has been invaded by animal rights idiots.

Didn't suggest to let the mouse go, let alone let it live, in fact no one did. I don't see where your animal rights BS is coming from.

[khakis]

there are plenty of good reasons to use sticky traps rather than snap-traps, so STFU and for saying anybody who uses glue traps will go to hell

[Eldo]

Hey, could you guys argue somewhere else? You are completely ruining Rontele's sweet blog.

[Viva]

3.5 I think a mouse doesn't have the emotions needed to freak out like a person.

Actually, mice are quite adept at "freaking out". Whenever starting new experiments, all animals needed to be handled once or twice daily for 10-14 days in advance in order to reduce the affects of handling-stress from the experimental outcome. Also, some stains are more susceptible to stress than others.

Anyway, if the mice you catch are found to be in a state of hysteria, just inject them intraperitoneally with about 2cc of "mouse cocktail" (Rompun, 20 mg/ml; Acepromazine, 10 mg/ml; Ketamine, 100 mg/ml). They'll sleep well after that. I guarantee it.

[Downbound Train]

Actually, mice are quite adept at "freaking out". Whenever starting new experiments, all animals needed to be handled once or twice daily for 10-14 days in advance in order to reduce the affects of handling-stress from the experimental outcome. Also, some stains are more susceptible to stress than others.

Anyway, if the mice you catch are found to be in a state of hysteria, just inject them intraperitoneally with about 2cc of "mouse cocktail" (Rompun, 20 mg/ml; Acepromazine, 10 mg/ml; Ketamine, 100 mg/ml). They'll sleep well after that. I guarantee it.

Sure they "freak out"....I'm refering to their perception. They don't really understand what's happening. They are just instinctively reacting. They have no concept of death. Like a fish out of water will 'freak" but does it really know it's going to die? Are it's relatives sad when it does?? Fear is an emotion, mice don't have human emotions. They have adrenalin.

[PNWbrit]

Sure they "freak out"....I'm refering to their perception. They don't really understand what's happening. They are just instinctively reacting. They have no concept of death. Like a fish out of water will 'freak" but does it really know it's going to die?

Same goes for dogs, cats, horses, babies.

Best luck I've had catching mice recently was by accident. An orange Home Depot bucket with some pieces of dried dog food spilled in it by accident = four dead mice.

[Viva]

....I'm refering to their perception. They don't really understand what's happening. They are just instinctively reacting. They have no concept of death.

Really? I do realize that the little bastards can seem somewhat clueless when presented with something totally out there. But they can and do learn. They will bond and play with human handlers. They exhibit excitement, confusion, fear and other behaviors commonly lumped within the scope of emotion.

Fear is an emotion, mice don't have human emotions.

WTF is this supposed to mean?

[Chainsaw_Willie]

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Yes, the mouse is still alive for the entire time. With a snap trap it's DEAD... not only is it better for YOU (and the community), it is better for the mouse. People who use glue traps will go to hell.

Oh brother!

What do those images purport to prove? That the side of a mouse that was stuck to a glue trap is all icky looking?

What is "the entire time?" If it's still alive when you check the trap, kill it. If you're concerned with how long it may have been stuck before discovery, check your traps often. I somehow really kinda doubt being immobilized by glue is anywhere even close to the same thing as having fingernails pulled out with pliers or teeth drilled without anasthesia.

The manner of a mouse's death somehow affects my "community?" WTF? This ranks up there with the most ridiculous nonsense I've read. Anywhere.

Going to hell for killing vermin? Nope.

Snap traps don't always kill swiftly either. I found a rat caught by it's hind leg in one. It was very much alive and had been gnawing at said leg in it's attempts to escape. Bet that hurt like a sumbitch. I've also found them caught by the very tips of their noses and their hindquarters, neither circumstance causing a swift death.

So, just to be clear: I don't enjoy or obtain any pleasure from the slow and/or painful death of a rodent nor do I set out to inflict such but, if that's what happens, so be it. I won't lose sleep over it either. I want these vermin gone from my property by the most efficient and convenient means available and other than that I really don't give a fuck about them.

Bottom line: If you're too much of a nancy to accept that inflicting death on other living things may not always be swift or humane, then best to leave that job to others and shut your yap about the methods they employ.

[iceman]

Frankly, I think people who get all worked up about the manner of a mouse's demise really need to grow thicker skin.

meh, it's all the same, lend me your children for a weekend and we'll see what happens.

[Chainsaw_Willie]

If my children start crawling around your property, eating your foods, shitting and pissing in your attic, walls, crawl spaces and living areas, and inflicting mites and diseased fleas on you, then take your best shot. I'm guessing you might find braining children with a hammer kind of hard to stomach, but I'll try to restrain them anyway.

[Tye 1on]

If my children start crawling around your property, eating your foods, shitting and pissing in your attic, walls, crawl spaces and living areas, and inflicting mites and diseased fleas on you, then take your best shot.

damn near sig worthy...

so still no critters rontele?

[cramer]

so still no critters rontele?

told you the sticky traps work better. he would have bagged some and had a tr up by now.

[iceman]

They only "work better" for pussies who are afraid of the snap traps...welcome to the intersection of Faggot St. and the Pussy Highway, you loser.

[Hugh Conway]

so still no critters rontele?

he shoots blanks man, don't be so harsh

[Tye 1on]

And a varmint will never quit, ever...

[GavinB]

I somehow really kinda doubt being immobilized by glue is anywhere even close to the same thing as having fingernails pulled out with pliers or teeth drilled without anasthesia.

Think about what happens after the mouse gets stuck. Something like this:



It doesn't just sit there. It struggles. Violently... but the glue is way too strong, so it pretty much maims itself. I don't know about you, but I'd rather have my fingernails pulled out than having my bones broken and skin ripped off trying to escape, then dying slowly of dehydration/starvation in someone's garbage can.

The manner of a mouse's death somehow affects my "community?" WTF? This ranks up there with the most ridiculous nonsense I've read. Anywhere.

Way to miss the point. What I meant was the actual death of the mouse. On a glue trap there's the possibility it can escape, and infest someone else's house. If the job is done, then you are doing the community a service.

Going to hell for killing vermin? Nope.

Didn't say that. But I'd hazard a guess that assuming a hell exists, people who torture animals to death intentionally will be welcome with open arms.

Snap traps don't always kill swiftly either. I found a rat caught by it's hind leg in one. It was very much alive and had been gnawing at said leg in it's attempts to escape. Bet that hurt like a sumbitch. I've also found them caught by the very tips of their noses and their hindquarters, neither circumstance causing a swift death.

No trap is 100% effective but at least they're designed in mind to kill the animal instantaneously, rather than starving it to death in glue. That the trap instructions tell people to throw a live, stuck, mouse into the garbage along with trap says it all really. Fuckin' wrong.

Bottom line: If you're too much of a nancy to accept that inflicting death on other living things may not always be swift or humane, then best to leave that job to others and shut your yap about the methods they employ.

When I kill something, I do it as swiftly as possible where possible. To do otherwise when the option is there to do the former, just doesn't sit right with me. If you want to ignore the morality of glue traps because you "don't give a shit", then there are practical reasons against it too.

I think glue traps are evil and the people who use them are fucking retards. How's that sound?

[Rontele]

told you the sticky traps work better. he would have bagged some and had a tr up by now.

this man speaks the troof. We replaced snap traps yesterday with some stickeys and found a barely dead mouse stuck to one...

Since this is war, I did not do the fucker the pleasure of killing him, but just placed him in the dumpster in the alley. Believe me, no emo unicorn tears were shed over this one.