the answer to "WTF is wrong with my boots?"

[zion zig zag]

Any one familiar with the met pads for the Sidas custom insoles? It looks like they just stick on top of the footbed? How well do they stay on and in place with forcing feet into and out of very tight boots?

[Duffman]

Aggressively molded w my fitter w double toe caps a new set of ProWrap 28 in my tight shell fit for length Cochise 130 27.5 to keep toes from going numb and being crushed lengthwise and to provide more room for all day wear for hiking and touring.

Mission accomplished but since I have a pretty high instep but flatter wider forefoot, there is too much vertical room right over the front of the met heads and toes (can almost curl toes now). I like the toe room for the most part, pain on front of big and second toe is gone, numbness also which was from the instep crush before, but need a good way to lock down the top of the met heads and toes a bit vertically. I cut the front of a piece of a small heel lift and duct taped it over the met heads and forward as a half assed fix, but it's not really staying on

Any easy or good way to eat up a little vertical volume just here in the front . Cannot shim underneath as it would crush the instep and my needed ramp for my ankle flexion is dialed.

[mntlion]

Any one familiar with the met pads for the Sidas custom insoles? It looks like they just stick on top of the footbed? How well do they stay on and in place with forcing feet into and out of very tight boots?

Usually stick on footbed and re-cover with cambrell to make a smooth entry point still.

Or spot heat the footbed and push up from the bottom to make a lump without adding anything.

[mntlion]

Aggressively molded w my fitter w double toe caps a new set of ProWrap 28 in my tight shell fit for length Cochise 130 27.5 to keep toes from going numb and being crushed lengthwise and to provide more room for all day wear for hiking and touring.

Mission accomplished but since I have a pretty high instep but flatter wider forefoot, there is too much vertical room right over the front of the met heads and toes (can almost curl toes now). I like the toe room for the most part, pain on front of big and second toe is gone, numbness also which was from the instep crush before, but need a good way to lock down the top of the met heads and toes a bit vertically. I cut the front of a piece of a small heel lift and duct taped it over the met heads and forward as a half assed fix, but it's not really staying on

Any easy or good way to eat up a little vertical volume just here in the front . Cannot shim underneath as it would crush the instep and my needed ramp for my ankle flexion is dialed.

Can you use a 1/2 footbed under the custom?

Short enough not to bug the instep, but long enough to support the mets?

or try adding padding to the liner, in the same way?

[Duffman]

Can you use a 1/2 footbed under the custom?

Short enough not to bug the instep, but long enough to support the mets?

or try adding padding to the liner, in the same way?

Would prefer to do it from the top somehow as I have always had a heel lift in bc of tight dorsiflexion and don't want to elevate toes to reverse that.

[mntlion]

Would prefer to do it from the top somehow as I have always had a heel lift in bc of tight dorsiflexion and don't want to elevate toes to reverse that.

sure: try foam on top of liner as needed. 1-2mm should be ok

[mikey1299]

Does the instep height change in Tecnica boots if you go from LV to MV or just the width?


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[mntlion]

Does the instep height change in Tecnica boots if you go from LV to MV or just the width?


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all parts, its an overall volume thing, NOT just a width thing

[Huskier]

I just laid out for a pair of sidas custom footbed to try to solve my cramping arches problem (happens in most of my shoes under the right circumstances, even my MTB flats). Couple questions:

1) Is the volume roughly equivalent to a stock footbed?
2) Does punching for width along the instep/arch reliably alleviate this kind of a thing or is it a stressed/stretched musculature kind of thing that better arch support might help with?

[mntlion]

I just laid out for a pair of sidas custom footbed to try to solve my cramping arches problem (happens in most of my shoes under the right circumstances, even my MTB flats). Couple questions:

1) Is the volume roughly equivalent to a stock footbed?
2) Does punching for width along the instep/arch reliably alleviate this kind of a thing or is it a stressed/stretched musculature kind of thing that better arch support might help with?

1) yes, or at least close

2) start with trying and see what helps
a) custom footbed (supportive)
b) flat footbed (same volume inside the boot, but no support)
c) no footbed (more volume inside the boot)

its often NOT adding more volume that helps.

follow up questions for YOU

1) what is the shell fit of the boot like (in mm please)

2) how many days on the liners/boots

[Huskier]

1) yes, or at least close

2) start with trying and see what helps
a) custom footbed (supportive)
b) flat footbed (same volume inside the boot, but no support)
c) no footbed (more volume inside the boot)

its often NOT adding more volume that helps.

follow up questions for YOU

1) what is the shell fit of the boot like (in mm please)

2) how many days on the liners/boots

1) 317 mm (both of my last boots were 323). Shell fit is good.
2) One measly day.

Also I should add I usually ski in liners rather than cook and typically put up with the misery for the first handful of days. And I did ok on that one inbounds day I'm just wary of what's going to happen when I start stacking 4-6 consecutive 1-2k meter touring days on them and the swelling sets in.

[mntlion]

1) 317 mm (both of my last boots were 323). Shell fit is good.
2) One measly day.

Also I should add I usually ski in liners rather than cook and typically put up with the misery for the first handful of days. And I did ok on that one inbounds day I'm just wary of what's going to happen when I start stacking 4-6 consecutive 1-2k meter touring days on them and the swelling sets in.

So this is just day #1?

try shorter days and odds are its just a tight liner, Few more days (touring or skiing) nad you will be fine

[turnfarmer]

I just laid out for a pair of sidas custom footbed to try to solve my cramping arches problem (happens in most of my shoes under the right circumstances, even my MTB flats). Couple questions:

1) Is the volume roughly equivalent to a stock footbed?
2) Does punching for width along the instep/arch reliably alleviate this kind of a thing or is it a stressed/stretched musculature kind of thing that better arch support might help with?

Most foot problems originate from limited ankle dorsiflexion? How is yours?

[GoldenBC]

Most foot problems originate from limited ankle dorsiflexion? How is yours?

Most foot problems? Really? Care to elaborate? Seems like a bold statement but I’d love to learn from it if it’s true.

[DigSki]

Boot experts - need help deciding if I should buy an additional S/Max as a backup. My general questions are:
- how many days should I expect to be putting on a set of shells before performance starts to drop?
-- I ski hard, average 20k vert per day, ski pretty soft snow in the wasatch if that matters
- how long do boots last sitting in storage?

Situation:
- I have very low insteps
- Currently in the S/Max 130 with ~100 days on it and loving it
- Have a backup pair of S/Max 130 sitting in a dark corner
- I put in ~100 hard-ish days a deason
- S/Max 130 carbon is on sale for brand new stupid cheap

My concerns are that in 3+ years (when I'll need the second backup)
- My foot will have changed enough that S/Max isn't the right boot
- The plastic will be shot (the backup boot will be 7+ years old by then - it's a 20/21)
- I won't be able to find a boot that fits my stupid low instep

[mntlion]

50-100 days on a liner. 200-300 on a shell (keep adding intuitions etc and keep it going)

By my math you have 200 days on current and 300+ in the closet at so you have a 5 year back up right now. I'd just let it go, but a deal on gear is hard to pass up and you can re-sell if needed

[GoldenBC]

Any one familiar with the met pads for the Sidas custom insoles? It looks like they just stick on top of the footbed? How well do they stay on and in place with forcing feet into and out of very tight boots?

Where did you find met pads from sidas? Link?

[zion zig zag]

Where did you find met pads from sidas? Link?

https://www.forrunnersbyrunners.com/

Store from the UK but shipping was cheap. I haven’t gotten them yet but I did get a tracking number.

[turnfarmer]

Most foot problems? Really? Care to elaborate? Seems like a bold statement but I’d love to learn from it if it’s true.

I’ve been practicing pedorthics for over 20 years in the orthopedic, podiatric and diabetic populations. Also boot fitting for 10. For the past 18 years I’ve checked ankle dorsiflexion of everyone I’ve seen. 90% of the people with symptomatic feet had limited ankle dorsiflexion. Semantically, one could argue this is a correlation-ship not a causal one. But when most of them get better either with stretching, ankle joint mobilization, or accommodating the equinus with a heel lift or a wedge shoe, I have a hard time accept that it’s not causal.

[Huskier]

Most foot problems originate from limited ankle dorsiflexion? How is yours?

Very shitty. Specifically shitty in the foot that cramps more..

[turnfarmer]

Most foot problems? Really? Care to elaborate? Seems like a bold statement but I’d love to learn from it if it’s true.

I’ve been practicing pedorthics for over 20 years in the orthopedic, podiatric and diabetic populations. Been Bootfitting for 10. I’ve checked ankle dorsiflexion of every one I’ve seen for the past 18 years. 90% of the people I’ve seen with symptomatic feet had limited ankle dorsi.

I guess one could argue that it’s not a causal but a co-relationship, but when most get better by reducing the equinus via stretching, ankle joint mobilization, or surgery: or accommodating the equinus via heel lift or a wedge shoe I have a hard time accepting that it’s not causal.

[turnfarmer]

Double post.

[turnfarmer]

Very shitty. Specifically shitty in the foot that cramps more..

When you stretch your calf with your knee extended does it pull in your calf?
If not you may need this-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrSQiQrAb5E

[GoldenBC]

I’ve been practicing pedorthics for over 20 years in the orthopedic, podiatric and diabetic populations. Been Bootfitting for 10. I’ve checked ankle dorsiflexion of every one I’ve seen for the past 18 years. 90% of the people I’ve seen with symptomatic feet had limited ankle dorsi.

I guess one could argue that it’s not a causal but a co-relationship, but when most get better by reducing the equinus via stretching, ankle joint mobilization, or surgery: or accommodating the equinus via heel lift or a wedge shoe I have a hard time accepting that it’s not causal.

Can you clarify what you call foot problems? I took that as foot problems in ski boots, aka ski boot problems.

Also, apparently I need to brush up on dorsiflexion testing if you’re seeing 90%.

[turnfarmer]

Not 90% in ski boots.
Problems such as plantar fasciitis, posterior tibialis tendonitis, peroneal tendonitis, Achilles tendonitis, metatarsalalgia, etc.
In my ski boot population, mostly 5 to 15 day/ year casual not very athletic skiers it’s probably more like 30 to 50%. But then again, I get all the problem childs in the shop at work at.