Maggot snowmobile thread

[Cruiser]

Too lazy to take it off

[BCMtnHound]

Ha! Can relate.

Curious, with the four seats/max payload, what depth of unconsolidated snow does that track system provide enough float for? Assuming you have a solid base under the fresh I would imagine…

[Cruiser]

We mostly run it on groomed snowmobile trails so it usually doesn't see a ton of fresh but it'll handle 2' of unconsolidated over a supportive base easily. It's mostly a chase/utility vehicle (by default cuz it maxes out at like 25mph with the tracks) during the winter but the convenience of 4 seats and a cargo area is so much better than trying to attach everything to snowmobiles if we're hooning around with a crew up high on a sunny February afternoon.

[heckacali]

I just picked up a bone stock 2011 Skidoo Summit Everest 154 etec for free from a friend,
The catch? Its been sitting 5 years unused.
Clearly I am a glutton for punishment.

I realize I am at the edge of the abyss of a money pit.
Just looking for forest road access machine for now, See how it goes, and how I do. I read the Everest have crappy suspension even by 2011 standards. Should be fun.

First steps-
-Wash the damn thing
-Pull the fuel tank and drain and clean fuel system
- new belt
- brake and chain case fluid change
-spark plugs
-lube anything that needs it, go over bolts, track tension
-??
- I know there are ton$ of mods for the motor, clutch and suspension on this rig, not ready to jump deep into the pit till the sled proves it can run and any shortcomings show themselves.
I just don't want to miss something and break down too far from the truck.

Toms snowmobiles is 30 minutes up the road thankfully, but I'm sure they're slammed right now.

Also, I can't seem to find a manual for this thing.
That is really the first step.

[SnowMachine]

I just picked up a bone stock 2011 Skidoo Summit Everest 154 etec for free from a friend,
The catch? Its been sitting 5 years unused.
Clearly I am a glutton for punishment.

I realize I am at the edge of the abyss of a money pit.
Just looking for forest road access machine for now, See how it goes, and how I do. I read the Everest have crappy suspension even by 2011 standards. Should be fun.

First steps-
-Wash the damn thing
-Pull the fuel tank and drain and clean fuel system
- new belt
- brake and chain case fluid change
-spark plugs
-lube anything that needs it, go over bolts, track tension
-??
- I know there are ton$ of mods for the motor, clutch and suspension on this rig, not ready to jump deep into the pit till the sled proves it can run and any shortcomings show themselves.
I just don't want to miss something and break down too far from the truck.

Toms snowmobiles is 30 minutes up the road thankfully, but I'm sure they're slammed right now.

Also, I can't seem to find a manual for this thing.
That is really the first step.

I had a '11 Summit R. Good sled. Hopefully you can get away without pulling injectors after sitting that long. Have fun!!

FWIW, I wouldn't put any real money into that sled. Ride it and if you get hooked, buy a modern sled. They're so much better in deep snow. I went to a Axys and love how much easier it is to work on compared to the Doo. Those things are designed by engineers that hate mechanics.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Those things are designed by engineers that hate mechanics.

They are basically French!

Agreed on don't pour money into it. Its either a runner or it isn't. The step up progression is probably XM>Axys>Gen 4...$3k>5k>8k

and after that you just being irresponsible and just by and hold turbos like they are bit coins...ask me how I know.

[Jason4]

I had a '11 Summit R. Good sled. Hopefully you can get away without pulling injectors after sitting that long. Have fun!!

FWIW, I wouldn't put any real money into that sled. Ride it and if you get hooked, buy a modern sled. They're so much better in deep snow. I went to a Axys and love how much easier it is to work on compared to the Doo. Those things are designed by engineers that hate mechanics.

I was laughing about this last night with some sled friends, it's always funny how Polaris riders react to the difficulty of taking off a ski doo hood. I'm not sure that Polaris riders realize that it isn't normal to change spark plugs 10 minutes down the trail on cold mornings.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Ha...has everyone quit Team Kitty Kat yet?

Doo vs. Poo is just Calvin pissing on a Ford and Calvin pissing on a Chevy. They are both fucking insane. Its a 2smoke 850 with a CVT...and then when factory Turbo. With basic maintenance, they are pretty reliable. Most riders go years or never between catastrophic events.

A vast majority of sleds that get towed out of the woods are wrecked. Last year in 30ish days with a handful of friends, one Polaris drive belt and one TKI drive belt on a Doo. Both times we were lucky to be closish to the truck, had an extra and replaced in the field.

The exceptions, in my opinion, are mod sleds, and A+ riders that are wringing everybit of performance out of their machines.

[heckacali]

The gallon of XPS oil I just bought (along with the new OEM belt, plugs and chaincase oil) leaked all over the interior of my truck in the ride home.

This snowmobile ownership is going as expected from my experience with my last one lol.

My last ownership experience made owning a boat look reasonable.

[Wapow]

The gallon of XPS oil I just bought (along with the new OEM belt, plugs and chaincase oil) leaked all over the interior of my truck in the ride home.

This snowmobile ownership is going as expected from my experience with my last one lol.

My last ownership experience made owning a boat look reasonable.

Tha's bad luck! I've owned Doos for 20+ years and never had any leakage from dealer bought fluids. They're all sealed under the cap at the factory. Other things to look at on your new/old sled are the clutches and the suspension. You can download the shop manual for cheap. Will show you how to service the clutches. It will also require some specialized tools (not too expensive) and the willingness to wrench. You could also have the dealer or a local snowmo mechanic look them over, for relatively cheap (in sled terms, unless they find big problems). The shocks get clapped out in about 1,500 miles, so if it has a ton of miles getting them replaced will really improve the handling. You can probably find used but rebuildable factory (x model) or better aftermarket shocks for that sled pretty cheap online. There are variety of places to get them serviced. It's a hassle, but worth it if you are going to be keeping the sled awhile.

[heckacali]

Thx, I'm comfortable wrenching as I work on motorcycles and cars as a hobby. I just don't know enough about exactly what to do and how to do it besides basic tune-up, re-torquing and general going over on sleds.
I've been trying to do a lot of internet searching for how to set up the track, suspension, limiter strap, etc on this year/model, Not having a ton of results as it's so old and the Everest is such a odd model.
I realize it's a much older sled and all the newer stuff is just been getting incrementally better, but the price is right and I just want to get the most out of it without overspending.

I don't know the hours yet until it's running, but it's super clean (except for the sun damage from sitting outside for years with a torn cover), as the previous owner bought it new and just used it on trails and likely babied it. It is super clean everywhere I've looked so far.

[CHAIR_97]

Thx, I'm comfortable wrenching as I work on motorcycles and cars as a hobby. I just don't know enough about exactly what to do and how to do it besides basic tune-up, re-torquing and general going over on sleds.
I've been trying to do a lot of internet searching for how to set up the track, suspension, limiter strap, etc on this year/model, Not having a ton of results as it's so old and the Everest is such a odd model.
I realize it's a much older sled and all the newer stuff is just been getting incrementally better, but the price is right and I just want to get the most out of it without overspending.

I don't know the hours yet until it's running, but it's super clean (except for the sun damage from sitting outside for years with a torn cover), as the previous owner bought it new and just used it on trails and likely babied it. It is super clean everywhere I've looked so far.

Snowest should have tons of archived threads much like trg

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[CHAIR_97]

Must admit stoked to see this thread getting bumped again soon we'll be ripping pow and dodging trees

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[Wapow]

Thx, I'm comfortable wrenching as I work on motorcycles and cars as a hobby. I just don't know enough about exactly what to do and how to do it besides basic tune-up, re-torquing and general going over on sleds.
I've been trying to do a lot of internet searching for how to set up the track, suspension, limiter strap, etc on this year/model, Not having a ton of results as it's so old and the Everest is such a odd model.
I realize it's a much older sled and all the newer stuff is just been getting incrementally better, but the price is right and I just want to get the most out of it without overspending.

I don't know the hours yet until it's running, but it's super clean (except for the sun damage from sitting outside for years with a torn cover), as the previous owner bought it new and just used it on trails and likely babied it. It is super clean everywhere I've looked so far.

I had a couple of XPs (that's the chassis for that sled, I believe, one year before the release of the XM chassis). The user manual should be available on the BRP site. Will show you the options for suspension. I like to loosen the limiter until there is no tension with no rider on it, when sitting on flat ground, or even a little slack. XP is pretty planted and this lightens the steering a bit. Sounds like you got a sweet barn find. Clutches and suspension should be still be in great shape.

[heckacali]

How it's going...

I saw this hokey, failing home made bellows between (?) The front air box and the rear air box? So kept taking stuff apart to address it.

[thefortrees]

Any mag looking for a cheap trail sled? Name
your price. 2005 Yamaha rs vector. Located in Oregon.

Ol blue served me well for a few years. Still running strong but I got the pow fevah… SVS found me an offer I couldn’t refuse on a new machine. Ironically, he also found ol blue for me a few years back.

It’s the perfect 4 stroke gear hauling machine to get kegs and food up to the yurt while your 2 stroke buddies (like SVS) are crying about overheating.

Plywood box and diy ski rack included.

[SnowMachine]

I was laughing about this last night with some sled friends, it's always funny how Polaris riders react to the difficulty of taking off a ski doo hood. I'm not sure that Polaris riders realize that it isn't normal to change spark plugs 10 minutes down the trail on cold mornings.

If you've ever pulled Rev Summit control arms or track, then you know what I'm talking about.

Polaris are so easy to work on. Just much more intuitive for this mechanic.

FWIW, I've never needed to do a single repair to my Axys outside of naintenance and mods. She's a runner.

[SnowMachine]

How it's going...

I saw this hokey, failing home made bellows between (?) The front air box and the rear air box? So kept taking stuff apart to address it.

Sweet!! That sled looks pretty good!! I rode mine all over the place. I didn't realize how bad it was until I tried a buddies Axys.

Honestly, though, they are super stable sleds. Definitely better on trail. Harder to side hill. They work well for old school sledders that don't put a sled on edge.

I have a good friend that is a pretty good old school guy. He got on a Axys and could never figure it out. He gave up and sold it a few weeks ago. Totally different riding style.

That's a great shuddle sled, for sure.

[Foggy_Goggles]

I think the XP was representative as pretty rapid chassis advancement. It was revolutionary when it came out and old school when it got replaced. Plus the m8000 still had a Suzuki motor and dealer support. Its funny, anytime the XPs come out, nobody can ride them, but the ergos where way better than the competition when they came out in 2008.

Now a days, the ride of a Doo and a Poo is pretty similar. But people drink plenty of beer fighting about it. The front ends feel a bit different but I don't think one is objectively better. And now Doo guys can fight among either other about T Motion.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Totally true. "Shut the fuck up and push the go button!" Set up you suspension and cockpit, put on a Diamond S if you want. Install Hotdogger and go.

I think a lot of people just don't understand that many people like tuning and "upgrading" their sleds more than they like snowmobiling. Maintain it, fix it if it's broke and try not to run it into a tree or a rock.

[heckacali]

Haha, That last line is what ended my last snowmobile ownership experience before I got one quarter of a tank of gas through it.

That bellows has been ordered, I haven't found anything else odd yet. I had pumped all the gas out of it using a hose and electric pump, but since I have it this far apart I'm going to pull the gas tank manually drain it.

I am going to do a sway bar disconnect, maybe even just remove it, also move the ski spacer to narrow the skis a bit more, but the good news is they are already at 36" so it did have the shorter control arm option installed.

[heckacali]

Regarding "better handling", My friend had a really nice 19 skidoo, but he had to buy the 23 turbo after riding it because he said it handled that much better.

I don't need to get caught up in that game of chasing the ultimate performance for $20,000.

[John_B]

Haha, That last line is what ended my last snowmobile ownership experience before I got one quarter of a tank of gas through it.

That bellows has been ordered, I haven't found anything else odd yet. I had pumped all the gas out of it using a hose and electric pump, but since I have it this far apart I'm going to pull the gas tank manually drain it.

I am going to do a sway bar disconnect, maybe even just remove it, also move the ski spacer to narrow the skis a bit more, but the good news is they are already at 36" so it did have the shorter control arm option installed.

If you are already pulling the tank it may be worth replacing the gasket around the fuel level sensor. I had one turn to jello and start leaking in an XP a few years ago.

[Foggy_Goggles]

$20K is a lot of money, but its not "second home money" or "nice boat money" or "$80K SUV money". I've got plenty of friends that sledding is their think. Twice a week minimum plus powder days plus a couple vacations. It's budgeted and they got the money. But it does get nutz. Go up to Rabbit Ears and you see the $100k pickup with the $100k hauler with $100k of sleds inside.

[CHAIR_97]

Regarding "better handling", My friend had a really nice 19 skidoo, but he had to buy the 23 turbo after riding it because he said it handled that much better.

I don't need to get caught up in that game of chasing the ultimate performance for $20,000.

Handled that much better lol the skis never touch the ground

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