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    Tomorrows race should be pretty good. Money on someone dive bombing turn 1 lap 1 to make up track position (Lewis or Vettel). Hopefully Webber can make up some spots and score ahead of Lewis.

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    Spa-Francorchamps is my favorite track but Monza is set up to be a good race this year too. I like the way the teams are split up on the starting grid. J. Button is running a lot of rear wing so if he gets a good start then he should be able to brake later than everyone else into the first turn.


    There are also rumors that Mercedes is talking to other drivers about next year with Schumacher moving into an advisory/management position. It would be nice to have access to internal performance data to see where Michael is loosing 3/10th-sec/lap to Rosberg to know if the car really is unsuited to his driving style or if he's just slower in general...

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    brazil is tomorrow....
    surprise in qualifying, should be a good race.
    how do you people watch the races online?

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    I just download it (torrents) the next day full BBC broadcast... damn last race was crazy! Course I have to be careful and not come across anything that will spoil it for me.

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    I just download it (torrents) the next day full BBC broadcast... damn last race was crazy! Course I have to be careful and not come across anything that will spoil it for me.
    atdhe.net !

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    ^^^ hugh, is there a live stream on there?

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    whoa

    Jenson Button escapes armed attack in Brazil:

    http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/07/j...ack-in-brazil/

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    Quote Originally Posted by land View Post
    Jenson Button escapes armed attack in Brazil:

    http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/07/j...ack-in-brazil/
    WTF were they doing drive through a Shanty Town?
    Maybe they thought he was Benjamin Button.
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    Sao Paulo is not the safest place. Engineers from one of the other teams were held up at gunpoint and gave up anything they had of value. They mentioned it very briefly on the Speed coverage today.

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    It's starting to look like the $100,000 fine Ferrari was hit with after Germany for team orders might be money well spent. The 7 points Alonso gained after Massa let him pass could end up being the difference between winning a world drivers championship and finishing second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ass-to-mouth View Post
    It's starting to look like the $100,000 fine Ferrari was hit with after Germany for team orders might be money well spent. The 7 points Alonso gained after Massa let him pass could end up being the difference between winning a world drivers championship and finishing second.
    If the tables were turned would Red Bull have ordered Webber to move over for Vettel?

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    Interesting question. At that point in the season Massa was sitting on 67 points and Alonso 98. At some point Ferrari made the decision that Alonso still had the best chance to win the WDC. Red Bull will never come out and say it, but Vettel appears to be the favored driver on that team. So yes, if the situation was similar then I think they would ordered Webber to slow down and let Vettel pass. Whether they would of been as blatant about it as Ferrari is another issue entirely.

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    Joe Saward's blog.

    "Red Bull made a very clear statement in Brazil. It is either run by someone who is stark raving bonkers, or is only willing to apply team orders at the last minute, if it is necessary to do so to save the Drivers’ World Championship from going to Ferrari. It seems that until there is absolutely no chance at all left for Sebastian Vettel to win the title, it is not going to help Mark Webber. Small wonder that Webber feels aggrieved with his team. The one thing he can do to strengthen his situation is to win the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, but thanks to the decisions that have been made he still has to hope that Vettel will be there behind him to keep Alonso out of second place. If Vettel screws up, crashes or blows an engine, Red Bull Racing will likely lose the title because Alonso will be there to snap up second place. The only thing that the team could then hope for is some help from McLaren…

    Red Bull has the best car and should, logically, finish 1-2 in Abu Dhabi, but if that is the case and Vettel leads Webber and Alonso to the finish line, then Alonso will win the title. Vettel’s only hope is that things will go badly wrong for Alonso and he will finish fourth, but that has happened only once in the last eight races. If the order is Vettel-Webber-Alonso as they go into the final lap on Yas Island it will be necessary to tell Vettel to allow Webber to pass, but if the team is really going to carry through this much-vaunted sporting attitude that it has spouted forth all year, it will have to give the biggest prize away.

    No-one is that stupid in the modern day and age.

    Worst still, if Alonso crashes or blows up and Vettel and Webber are running one-two in the final laps of the Abu Dhabi race, both will end up with 256 points and then it will be down to counting back the points. That would likely trigger utter mayhem between the two team mates… as we saw in Turkey, because Vettel would win the countback. If both collided and retired Webber would be champion… In such a scenario Webber has nothing to lose but to try to pass the German.

    All of this could have been avoided by switching Vettel and Webber in Brazil. That would have meant the same Constructors’ points but would have meant that Alonso would have needed to beat at least one Red Bull to win the title. Switching Vettel and Webber would not have been a case of applying team orders to the detriment of the sport. It would have been logical and the FIA has never worried about such things in the closing stages of a championship. In any case, it can hardly punish Red Bull with more than a fine, having let Ferrari off earlier in the year, without making itself look bad.

    Hey-ho… Roll on Abu Dhabi."


    Alonso has been the class of the field this year and deserves his third world championship.
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    The 2008 WDC came down to the final corner of the final lap in Brazil. Iam not sure how you top that, but the potential is certainly there in Abu Dhabi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ass-to-mouth View Post
    Interesting question. At that point in the season Massa was sitting on 67 points and Alonso 98. At some point Ferrari made the decision that Alonso still had the best chance to win the WDC. Red Bull will never come out and say it, but Vettel appears to be the favored driver on that team. So yes, if the situation was similar then I think they would ordered Webber to slow down and let Vettel pass. Whether they would of been as blatant about it as Ferrari is another issue entirely.
    I agree.

    And based on PNWbrit's post: Should Alonso suffer misfortune and if Vettel and Webber are running 1-2, I would love to see Webber take out Vettel and win the championship. Giving RB(Mateshits and that advisor dude) a big fuck you is really what they deserve after Silverstone. I think Vettel would do the same to Webber, since he was raised to emulate Schumacher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ass-to-mouth View Post
    At some point Ferrari made the decision that Alonso still had the best chance to win the WDC.
    China? When Fred passed Phil in the pit lane entrance?

    He's ~100 points ahead of him now. The eight he was then handed by team tactics in Germany? Just seems kinda trivial now?

    Good choice wasn't it....

    Wouldn't be completely surprised if Webber quits if/when Alonso wins WDC on Sunday.
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    Wouldn't be surprised either if Webber walks away. He's that type of guy.
    But he only has himself to blame after putting it in the dirt last race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidewall View Post
    But he only has himself to blame after putting it in the dirt last race.
    everybody at RB has made too many mistakes this year they'd like to forget.

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    Seeing Nico Hulkenberg take pole position was a nice change of scenery.

    I would absolutely love to see Webber win the driver's championship. Then I wouldn't be surprised to see him give RBR the finger and take his number 1 elsewhere.
    A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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    Putin tests Renault F1 car.



    It's good to be the Prime Minister/President*! (which is he this week?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    China? When Fred passed Phil in the pit lane entrance?

    He's ~100 points ahead of him now. The eight he was then handed by team tactics in Germany? Just seems kinda trivial now?

    Good choice wasn't it....

    Wouldn't be completely surprised if Webber quits if/when Alonso wins WDC on Sunday.
    I think even before the season started Alonso was designated as the #1.

    The decision to issue orders was probably reached on the pit wall @ Hockenheim. If the team had put together some kind of plan beforehand you would think they could of come up with something a little more clever then: "Fernando is faster then you. Did you understand that message?" Then again maybe Ferrari didn't give a shit and knew they would probably get away with it.

    Obviously the decision has worked out well. Alonso has been on fire & Massa has been a mess. Massa can't really believe he'll be level with Alonso if he returns next season.

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    I'm sure Ferrari were expecting to have to replace Massa after giving him "a go" back in the car at the first race of the year after his injury.
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    Has anyone found good discussion of the design/ engineering of Red Bull's RB6? I'm fascinated by how good it is...
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    beaten by pnwbrit. again.

    see this bit, specifically:
    http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2010/0...ven-diffusers/

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