Steepest skiable angle?

[iceman]

80 degrees has to be impossible no matter what you're on, doesn't it? At 80 degrees if you were standing toeside, your nose would probably be almost touching the snow.

[telekopter]

Originally posted by phUnk
With super-steep stuff, your body gets in its own way. You can't get your hip/shoulder/elbow out of the way because it keeps banging into the wall that's about 2.5' from your head.

that's so right, its hard to get a propoer carve when its steep!

[I've skied Central Couloir in Jackson (off Cody) with really hard snow and I think that measures about 66 degrees. Definitely the steepest sustained pitch I've ever skied.
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that's sicko. i've been to jackson and its the best for steeps. is the central coulior next to corbet's?

[LCC]

Originally posted by telekopter
that's sicko. i've been to jackson and its the best for steeps. is the central coulior next to corbet's?

tele, Cental is OB. Look to the south when you get to the top of the tram. That big mountain your looking at is Cody, the thin white line on it is Central. Corbet's will look like the bunny slope next to it. The line your thinking of is probably S&S.

phUnk, nice work! Been looking at that for 2 seasons, conditions while there did not allow me up there. How was the drop at the bottom if conditions were firm?

EDIT: Wrote Central where I meant to write Cody.

[mildbill.]

Originally posted by phUnk

I've skied Central Couloir in Jackson (off Cody) with really hard snow and I think that measures about 66 degrees.

please see greydon's post.

[phUnk]

Originally posted by mildbill.
please see greydon's post.

Hey Clubby, don't make me come over there and beat you with my 15 inch cock.

BTW, I didn't measure it, or estimate it, 66 is what I was told by a JH Air Force pilot.

LCC: The drop was only about 15' b/c Jackson got over 570" of snow that year. Good year to be a 90-day-wonder.

telekopter: LCC is right, you're thinking of S&S. It's fun, but the only tech part of it is dropping in through that slot in the rocks and and not lawn-darting directly into the rock wall in front of you. Kind of scary. *shrug*

[mildbill.]

Originally posted by phUnk
Hey Clubby, don't make me come over there and beat you with my 15 inch cock.

BTW, I didn't measure it, or estimate it, 66 is what I was told by a JH Air Force pilot.

roger that, mr. jeremy.

[3o3]

Originally posted by iceman
80 degrees has to be impossible no matter what you're on, doesn't it? At 80 degrees if you were standing toeside, your nose would probably be almost touching the snow.

No way you could/would ride something that steep on your toeside. You wouldn't be able to see anything but the snow scraping your goggles and your ankles would fold up like, um, mine did.

The crazy thing (er, one of the crazy things) in that VJ picture, is that she's bending forward to see over the edge of her board. That slope HAS to be near-vertical.

edit to clarify: I never have or will ride anything steep enough that I'll ever have to worry about these things.

[phUnk]

Originally posted by mildbill.
roger that, mr. jeremy.

Recognize!

[mildbill.]

Originally posted by phUnk
Recognize!

of course.

now, if you'll excuse me, i'm going to walk down my 25 degree hallway and get a cup of water.

[iceman]

Originally posted by mildbill.

now, if you'll excuse me, i'm going to walk down my 25 degree hallway and get a cup of water.

You should get the AC fixed, that's way too cold.

[optics]

Originally posted by iceman
You should get the AC fixed, that's way too cold.

Especially for the cup of water.

[phUnk]

Originally posted by mildbill.
of course.

now, if you'll excuse me, i'm going to walk down my 25 degree hallway and get a cup of water.

Try not to beat the shit out of your bike with a stick on the way.

[LCC]

Originally posted by mildbill.
of course.

now, if you'll excuse me, i'm going to walk down my 25 degree hallway and get a cup of water.

if its that cold, your water will probably be ice.

[mildbill.]

Originally posted by phUnk
Try not to beat the shit out of your bike with a stick on the way.

i don't think i'll get a pinch flat on the carpet, so the bike should be safe.



for now.

[phUnk]

Originally posted by mildbill.





for now.

Recognize!








Alright, I'm done.

[FLEX]

I've seen a video of Pierre Tardivell (sp?) skiing a face that was 70+ deg. hard snow + ice .... it was an if you fall you die situation. I don't think there was any exaggeration of the steepness ......Anyone who has read about or seen video of Pierre T. ski wouldn't doubt it......

[iceman]

70+, I've gotta doubt it. But keep in mind I'm talkin' out of my ass.

It would be cool to see some proof of the steepest shit ever skied.

[Woodsy]

Originally posted by LCC
The engineering term for it is Angle of Repose

http://www.riverart.com/books/anglesm.jpg

Stegner is the man. Western Writer that taught some greats like Edward Abbey, Wendell Berry, Thomas McGuane, Ken Kesey, Larry McMurtry.

Was an environmentalist back when there weren't many

[dipstik]

Since were on the subject...anyone know the angle of the average staircase? I heard something like 30 degrees...is this true?

[optics]

25-45.
Not an average, I realize.

[hot_sauce]

Originally posted by iceman
I was just reading about some guy who skied "...a 70-degree B.C. face." Sounds kinda impossible to me, but what do I know.

Is there some theoretical or practical angle it is impossible to go beyond (yeah, past 90 would be rough, I know) or does anyone have an idea what the steepest ever skied might be?

Just wondering on a summer morning.

if snow will stick to it, there's someone sick enough and good enough to ski it.

I believe the steepest angle snow usually sticks to is in the vicinity of 70 degrees.

there's this line Jeremy Jones drops into in Mind The Addiction and he's on his toeside edge with his chest and face literally pressed up against a wall of snow... that shit looks like it has to be at least 70 degrees to my uneducated eyes

[Arnold Babar]

Originally posted by iceman
You should get the AC fixed, that's way too cold.

How does an Anterior Cruciate make anything cold? (implied)

[Schmear]

Originally posted by Tyrone Shoelaces
I've been laying down schmear's turns

Was that you following me?

[FNG]

I seem to remember hearing that the downhill course at the olympics was 72 degrees at the start.

[LCC]

Originally posted by dipstik
Since were on the subject...anyone know the angle of the average staircase? I heard something like 30 degrees...is this true?

I measured mine at 35 degrees a few months ago. One trick I've been working on that a old avy savy mentor of mine feels is improtant is guessing the steepness of a slope, then measuring it. This guy can 95% of the time look at any slope on the mountain and nail the steepness within a degree or so. Try to slowly educate yourself on how steep something is. As sometimes, a slope can get you that your not even skiing on, but you may be in the runout zone and not realize it. If you can keep that 35-45 range in mind, your much safer.

Also, something else to keep in mind is degrees v. percent. Some places measure slope in degrees, while others measure them in percent. I've skied the Grizzly at Snowbasin a few years back, the upper part is damn steep (winch-cat) for an icy groomer, but it is not 72 degrees. Any Snowbasin locals able to confirm/deny this for me?