Boat fitting

**skideeppow** · 07-29-2008, 07:56 AM

I just got into my boat for the first time in 15 years. I had taken a huge swim i on a full moon in slaughterhouse in the upper fork.

Anyway, I moved the foot pegs all the way out for leg room but I needed more. Any ideas on how to give more room in the legs. I can not move the seat back and there is no more room to push the foot pegs forward.

**Yonder_River** · 07-29-2008, 10:06 AM

Umm, buy a new boat, your current one is obviously way outdated. That like saying your having trouble getting into your rear entry boots.

I think footpegs can be dangerous in some situations, maybe try taking them out and replacing with some closed cell foam that's in most kayaks nowadays.

**kayaktheworld** · 07-29-2008, 10:28 AM

What kind of boat is it? What size are you?

I agree with Yonder_River, if you really want to get back into the sport you should probably take a boat upgrade. Then again, if you just want to hop in some easy stuff once a year refitting might be the answer.

**RTR** · 07-29-2008, 10:29 AM

Stretch for ten minutes every night (and mid-day) for a week or maybe two... you'll be AMAZED with the difference.

**Lost in AK** · 07-29-2008, 12:07 PM

I second the stretching. That will probably make the biggest difference but switching to foam blocks instead of foot pegs as yonder said, will be safer and the most comfortable fit.

**Yeti** · 07-29-2008, 12:40 PM

Next thing I know, you'll be telling me that my XXX is outdated, and a tight fit at that.

**Conundrum** · 07-29-2008, 12:59 PM

Pull the pegs out and tape/glue some foam in there. Or try some new boats if you plan on paddling much. Really, there has been some technology changes since 1993.

**jm2e** · 07-29-2008, 02:19 PM

I'm in this for the curiosity. You're right on the cusp of boat evolution from the old Dancer/small cockpit days to the Response/Corsica/large cockpit days. Which one have you?
Pegs are just fine if you aren't creeking, and I don't think this man is looking to jump into the steep and bony right off his hiatus.

**skideeppow** · 07-29-2008, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Yonder_River

Umm, buy a new boat, your current one is obviously way outdated. That like saying your having trouble getting into your rear entry boots.

I think footpegs can be dangerous in some situations, maybe try taking them out and replacing with some closed cell foam that's in most kayaks nowadays.

Wow, I can't believe I am actually a Gaper, what a clown i am.

I had no idea footpegs are that old school. I just wanted to see if I would enjoy the sport still so i used this older boat. I will probabaly look at getting a new boat and paddle.
Thanks for the rude awakening

**Yonder_River** · 07-29-2008, 04:55 PM

It's ok, gapers are usually the last to know their a gaper.

**XXX-er** · 07-29-2008, 05:20 PM

If you got the yakima foot pegs that came in perception boats I wonder if you can't drill new holes in the assembly ?

I found pulling out the thigh braces and glueing 1/4" minis cell to the underside of the deck often gives a little extra room and better ergonomics

cramming the bow of an older boat with minicell might be expensive and heavy so try 3" styrafoam insulation from the building supply store , its cheap /light/waterproof

but probably you want to get a new boat

**Lost in AK** · 07-30-2008, 02:38 PM

I was saying to ditch the foot pegs so that you'll have more space. cheap if you're local paddle shop is nice. they'll have random blocks kicking around that most places will just let you have. I'd avoid styrofoam because it breaks down easily. If you find it stays together though its obviously easier to come by.

**XXX-er** · 07-30-2008, 05:28 PM

actualy it stays togethr pretty good in an app like filling up a bunch of space in the front of a boat , it is light & doesnt absorb water , I use it to fill the very front and then I would put a layer of minicell on top of it cuz I got short 30" legs and I am often taking up excess space ...hell I can fit easily in a XXX

its also way cheap ...you can get a huge sheet for very cheap from your local building supply ,you can make all kinds of cuts/mistakes and its not costly whereas minicell is 12$ a sq ft if you have to buy it

it might also be good for pillars atho I havent tried it

**jm2e** · 07-31-2008, 08:36 PM

I still wanna know what kinda boat you've got. You could have a ton of fun in any boat. Pics of retro paddling are good.

**skideeppow** · 08-07-2008, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by jm2e

I still wanna know what kinda boat you've got. You could have a ton of fun in any boat. Pics of retro paddling are good.

Dagger Redline, let the heckles begin

**jm2e** · 08-08-2008, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by skideeppow

Dagger Redline, let the heckles begin

= Flat bottom RPM. Literally. It wasn't a ground up design, it was built off the RPM when flat bottoms were cutting edge.

That's a great boat with a modern (safe) cockpit. I would definitely keep it. You must be on the tall end of the height spectrum. Unless one were planning to run something steep, those pegs would be fine. 5:1 odds they're the plastic pegs that're easier to adjust and will break away anyhow if you hit something hard enough to hurt your feet. That said, if you don't like the pegs, take 'em out - epoxy the holes - stuff minicell in the bow - simple as that. Take the thing to the Glenwood Wave and it'll be loads of fun, or run it through Shoshone to remind yourself that it's a great river running boat.. There is nothing wrong with that boat! It'll also be good to teach in.

I can't believe we had this debate over a Redline. I thought we were talking Dancer or Eclipse or T-Canyon.

**XXX-er** · 08-08-2008, 11:08 AM

they sold the redline as a flatbottom RPM , I wasnt crazy about it and I sold my redline pretty quik ,while I still had my RPM in fact.

Redline was not a popular boat not as popular as the RPM for sure,I have also heard the GT feels like a rpm with a flat bottom

Its ok for now but I would think about going much newer ...something you can try doing blunts with

**skideeppow** · 08-08-2008, 11:22 AM

when you say microcel, you just stuff foam in the front

**XXX-er** · 08-08-2008, 11:27 AM

yeah it should friction fit ,if its too loose in there it moves around when you try and get in & if you swim it may end up floating down the river

I thot footpegs and bulkheds were replaced by foam becuz of the limited space in modern playboats not becuz they didnt work well ,my diesal is fairly current has a bulkhed and it works fine

**skideeppow** · 08-08-2008, 11:28 AM

any pictures?

**XXX-er** · 08-08-2008, 11:35 AM

http://kayakoutfitting.com/tips/outfitting.html

New baost come with minicell fit kits that are molded for the boat and easily altered

otherwise its kind of cut and try using a bread knife or handsaw which can be expensive using minicell at 15$ a sq ft ,thats why I try to use 3" styrafoam which is like 20$ for a huge sheet to take up some of the space

http://building.dow.com/styrofoam/na...yrofoam/sm.htm

**skideeppow** · 08-08-2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by XXX-er

http://kayakoutfitting.com/tips/outfitting.html

New baost come with minicell fit kits that are molded for the boat and easily altered

otherwise its kind of cut and try using a bread knife or handsaw which can be expensive using minicell at 15$ a sq ft ,thats why I try to use 3" styrafoam which is like 20$ for a huge sheet to take up some of the space

http://building.dow.com/styrofoam/na...yrofoam/sm.htm

thanks that is some great info